Spugsy

You know this from first hand experience I expect?

Blue Cat

I do, if you don't want to do it, rebab won't work.

scrubbedexpat141

If I could tell him again (which I did) then I'd say this all to him. He killed himself over many years.

I feel sorry him that he couldn't help himself, he was pushed to rehab and pushed to move in with his parents again but nothing would have helped fix it unless he instigated it or wanted it.

I understand where you're coming from but it's an excuse. If I told you that you'll die unless you change something and you don't do anything about it or seek help to change it (whatever that help might be) then it's nobodies fault but yours. You can't be helped unless you help yourself, and I don't see any excuses. If you don't help yourself because you are addicted, then you don't want to be helped. If you want to no longer have an addiction then you seek help.

And yes, as I've posted already I've seen this first hand.

Paracletus

petrolhead13

[QUOTE=Scamp;9516890]She needed help, no doubting that but you've got to help yourself before anyone can have an influence. If you don't value your life enough to look after yourself, help yourself or fix your issues then I don't understand why sympathy should be thrown your way when you die.

As far as her talents go, it's criminal, such a waste. Yes, she only made one amazing album but had the potential to make dozens.

It's a shame that a life is lost because it's the most precious thing, but I can't feel sorry for her or parade her as a lost hero because frankly, she killed herself.[/QUOTE]

http://www.channel4.com/news/amy-win...ortem-date-due

scrubbedexpat141

[QUOTE=petrolhead13;9519672] "The force said it awaited the results of further toxicology tests, the results of which are not expected before 2 to 4 weeks"

Blue Cat

'Amy was the greatest daughter, family member and friend you could ever have.

I will talk a lot about her fantastic recovery. Recently Amy found love with Reg. He helped her with her problems and Amy was looking forward to their future together.

She was the happiest she has been for years. We all remember that great night at the 100 Club on Oxford Street, her voice was good, her wit and timing were perfect.

She told me that she had "thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed herself".
The last time she called me she had found a box of old family photos and called me to go over to look. We spoke three times a day at least, she was very excited.

Three years ago, Amy conquered her drug dependency, the doctors said it was impossible but she really did it. She was trying hard to deal with her drinking and had just completed three weeks of abstinence.

Mitch's eulogy to Amy, is he blind?

co durham boy

He's probably referring to heroin as her known dependant drug , he probably doesn't want to think about the Cocaine , Ketamine , Valium , Diazapam , Methadone , Amphetamines , Ecstasy and Weed she was banging on a daily basis .

Anyone could see in that last clip of the abandoned concert in Europe that she was absolutely smashed to bits , only Class A's do that to a person and an awful lot of them as well.

Blue Cat

rose coloured glasses, and not had a drink for three weeks?

co durham boy

I feel sorry for her parents and family but i've little sympathy with her , there's far too much written and spouted about it.

If it was some kid from a council sink estate no one would give a toss and they'd be saying she'd better off in the ground.

I don't buy the argument that dependency is a disease but that's just my opinion .

The Dean

Looked like a good send-off though............. lots of yarmulkes and kippahs.... very Jewish..........

Meow

Bit late though. Ought to have been within 24 hours. Apparently her family are sitting Shiva.

cappuccino

A yarmulke and kippah is the same thing!

The Dean

So what?

Anyway.................. "What It Is" by the lady herself seems appropriate......

I can see you ahead of me
But I'm not always forward thinkin'
I tell you what you want to hear
It depends on what I've been drinkin'

Cause everything I do or say
Makes it hard for you to stay
We both know What it is

Nowadays we talk too much
Like your forgetting all the good shit
You decide what's wrong with me
I always used to let you say

But now I like to think out loud
Your runnin' with some different crowd
We both know what it is

I don't know you anymore
Supposed 2 be the man
That I live my life by
And your attitude become a bore
And I'm so tired I cant even cry

Mr Ultra sensitive
Ill never let myself forget you
Messed each other up you know
So I'm sorry if I upset you

tomorrow is another day
So I'll call you cause that's OK
We both know what it is

I don't know you anymore
Supposed to be the man
That I live my life by
And you're attitude become a bore
And I'm so Tired
I can't even cry

Relationship doesn't remain
We resonate on different flames
I could cut you down again
If you were like all other men
If you were like all other men
I know that I could shut you down again
But my friend, but my friend

I don't know you anymore
Supposed to be the man
That I live my life by
And your attitude become a bore
And I'm so tired I cant even cry

I don't know you anymore
Supposed to be the man
That I live my life by
And your attitude become a bore
And I'm so tired I cant even cry

Meow

The Dean is a gentile...