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The Dean Jul 30th 2012 6:43 am

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Appeal? Appeal??? How dare they??? He fell off...........

Right, that's it........... i'm off to tweet something suitably racist..... well, everyone else does:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19054995

[the missing quote is 'mentally handicapped retards']

The Dean Jul 30th 2012 6:52 am

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.......... and dramatic inaction at the fencing............ Korean woman beaten by German - refuses to move while her officials appeal (she's been sitting there motionless for about an hour now).

It's 'live' on OSN Sports 3 if you want to watch her doing nothing........

kittycat1 Jul 30th 2012 7:11 am

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>blush<

The Dean Jul 30th 2012 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 10201528)
>blush<

It says 'Click Image For Larger Version', but I'm not sure that's a good idea......

The Dean Jul 30th 2012 7:26 am

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:huh:

flares Jul 30th 2012 7:47 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 10201528)
>blush<

Gratuitous filth Kittycat

that pic isn't even from the Olympics (unless the timber fence is one of Danny Boyle's creations that's been left in situ)

typical Jul 30th 2012 8:09 am

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10201500)
.......... and dramatic inaction at the fencing............ Korean woman beaten by German - refuses to move while her officials appeal (she's been sitting there motionless for about an hour now).

Korea do seem hard done by - first the weirdness in the judo, now this - that was surely more than a second!

Can't believe they had to send the official off to an ATM before lodging the appeal either...

And she didn't even win the bronze after all that.

The Dean Jul 30th 2012 8:11 am

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Originally Posted by typical (Post 10201588)
Korea do seem hard done by - first the weirdness in the judo, now this - that was surely more than a second!

Can't believe they had to send the official off to an ATM before lodging the appeal either...

And she didn't even win the bronze after all that.

At least the beastly rotten cheating German frau-hund lost the final..............

Boomhauer Jul 30th 2012 4:46 pm

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So the Chinese female gold medal swimmer beat the American male gold medal swimmer in the final 50m stretch. .....
I have to join the people who suspect doping.

China has a history of cheating, from doping to falsifying age.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-swimmer.html

kittycat1 Jul 30th 2012 7:05 pm

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Saudi- ;-)

The Dean Jul 30th 2012 10:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 10202152)
So the Chinese female gold medal swimmer beat the American male gold medal swimmer in the final 50m stretch. .....
I have to join the people who suspect doping.

China has a history of cheating, from doping to falsifying age.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-swimmer.html

Yes but (as someone who is quite close to the drugs-in-sport environment) the tests are very sophisticated these days, with that biochemical mapping thing to the fore............ as a winner, she would have been compulsorily tested, so let's see...........

Millhouse Jul 30th 2012 11:00 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10202631)
Yes but (as someone who is quite close to the drugs-in-sport environment) the tests are very sophisticated these days, with that biochemical mapping thing to the fore............ as a winner, she would have been compulsorily tested, so let's see...........

Can they detect when people store their own blood and re-inject it nearer the event to boost the oxygen carrying levels? I understand they can detect it if they use someone elses' blood, but if you use your own it's very hard to pick up.

Anyway, I think she just farted during the last 50m - too many green beans.

Meow Jul 30th 2012 11:40 pm

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http://i48.tinypic.com/116j7kl.png

Boomhauer Jul 31st 2012 12:19 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10202717)

What the heck, where the hell are the Ubermenschen, didn't even place?

Millhouse Jul 31st 2012 6:30 am

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Day 4 almost over. 4 medals, 0 golds. If we maintain this performance we will be the worse performing host nation on record. brilliant.

Go Team GB - I know a world record isn't in you, but a Guiness Book of Records Entry might be. :fingerscrossed:

Autonomy Jul 31st 2012 9:33 am

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Phelps becoming the greatest Olympian ever today was bloody brilliant. Great athlete and a really decent bloke it seems.

Ye has been tested this games and 4 times this year and results negative. Innocent until proven guilty - brilliant 2 final performances.

Bradley Wiggins is currently equal with Sir Steve Redgrave as the most medalled British Olympian ever with 6 medals. Tomorrow he has the chance to go one better. Fingers crossed for a medal, hoping for Gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_B..._by_individual

The Dean Jul 31st 2012 3:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Autonomy (Post 10203552)
Phelps becoming the greatest Olympian ever today was bloody brilliant. Great athlete and a really decent bloke it seems.

Ye has been tested this games and 4 times this year and results negative. Innocent until proven guilty - brilliant 2 final performances.

Bradley Wiggins is currently equal with Sir Steve Redgrave as the most medalled British Olympian ever with 6 medals. Tomorrow he has the chance to go one better. Fingers crossed for a medal, hoping for Gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_B..._by_individual

Greatest Olympian? No. Winner of most medals? Yes. Different things.

Too many swimmers 'accumulate' medals in very similar events: say, 100m, 200m and 400m freestyle, plus a couple of freestyle relays = 5 medals. He's the greatest ever swimmer, I'd say.......

........... but Greatest Olympian must be Jesse Owens, for all he had to overcome, including in his own country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sse-Owens.html

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 31st 2012 4:06 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10203940)
Greatest Olympian? No. Winner of most medals? Yes. Different things.

Too many swimmers 'accumulate' medals in very similar events: say, 100m, 200m and 400m freestyle, plus a couple of freestyle relays = 5 medals. He's the greatest ever swimmer, I'd say.......

........... but Greatest Olympian must be Jesse Owens, for all he had to overcome, including in his own country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sse-Owens.html

Thats guff mate.

Jesse Owens was certainly not the greatest Olympian.

The Dean Jul 31st 2012 5:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10203980)
Thats guff mate.

Jesse Owens was certainly not the greatest Olympian.

Go on then.............

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 31st 2012 5:37 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10204046)
Go on then.............

You can't pick one.

Impossible.

You might look down the consistent medal winners over 5 games and end up with a Trap Shooter. Nobody would claim them to be a greater Olympian than Redgrave / Phelps / Whoever.

It's not comparing apples with apples so you'll never end up with one.

I think you can get a list together of some of the greats but it depends entirely on the credit distribution for;

- No. of gold Medals
- No. of games attended
- Total medal haul
- World records beaten
- Obstacles faced, racism, sexism, dodgy officiating etc.

None of those can really be cross-compared.

I think it's tough. It's like comparing Messi with Pele. The sport is the same in that case but the era's very different (thats another for the list).

Don't know mate. Don't know who I'd pick. I'd be tempted with Redgrave because I think he holds the values of the Olympics and was clearly a true champion of champions. Difficult because that's my era. I don't know about ROmanian 14 year olds getting perfect balance beam scores.

Also I don't know enough about the Uzbekh Weightlifting team who have won millions of golds (that's just a made up exmaple)....to be able to commit to one person.

Millhouse Jul 31st 2012 5:47 pm

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It's Daley Thompson. Anyone with with a ZX Spectrum game named after him is clearly the winner.

Man, I had some screen time playing this:




(That said, I played Jet Set Willy a lot lot more)

Millhouse Jul 31st 2012 6:06 pm

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I see the Chinese and the Koreans are now copying Team GB's strategy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...empt-lose.html

Sandboy Jul 31st 2012 6:12 pm

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almost ruins the theory of never having met a nice South African - this is why the olympics are so good

http://deadspin.com/5930604/this-bbc...e-games-so-far

NorthernLad Jul 31st 2012 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 10204071)
It's Daley Thompson. Anyone with with a ZX Spectrum game named after him is clearly the winner.

Man, I had some screen time playing this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ANgcSWmTaeU&feature=related


(That said, I played Jet Set Willy a lot lot more)

Daley Thompsons Decathlon ruined a load of my Kempston Joysticks.

Sandboy Jul 31st 2012 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 10204107)
Daley Thompsons Decathlon ruined a load of my Kempston Joysticks.


was fine practice for later teenage endurance events though :lol:

Millhouse Jul 31st 2012 6:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 10204108)
was fine practice for later teenage endurance events though :lol:

Quite. The perfect example of 'learning through play'. We didn't even know the level of training we were putting in for puberty.

The Dean Jul 31st 2012 6:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 10204108)
was fine practice for later teenage endurance events though :lol:

Was there a.... er.... women's heptathlon version......? :o

Boomhauer Jul 31st 2012 8:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 10204089)
I see the Chinese and the Koreans are now copying Team GB's strategy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...empt-lose.html

my immediate gut instinct is, throw the 2 Chinese players out of the Olympics. Just a total BS behaviour on their part, insulting to all others.

On another note, the Saudi Judo contestant will be allowed to wear a Niqab, special dispensation was made .

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 31st 2012 8:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 10204286)
my immediate gut instinct is, throw the 2 Chinese players out of the Olympics. Just a total BS behaviour on their part, insulting to all others.

On another note, the Saudi Judo contestant will be allowed to wear a Niqab, special dispensation was made .

Not just the Chinese, the Koreans too.

It's like that footie match that ended 3-3 which was the only result that would have got them both through to the tournament. Think they were Scandinavian weren't they?

The Dean will know.

Bahtatboy Jul 31st 2012 8:49 pm

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Was impressed with the men's weightlifting last night. Martin of Romania just pipped at the post to silver by the final lift of Triyatno which to me and many others looked very dodgy--but not a murmur of dissent. True sportsmanship.

The Dean Jul 31st 2012 9:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10204311)
Not just the Chinese, the Koreans too.

It's like that footie match that ended 3-3 which was the only result that would have got them both through to the tournament. Think they were Scandinavian weren't they?

The Dean will know.

Several examples........... 1982 World Cup: the Germans and Austrians played out a 0-0 draw to ensure they both qualified at another team's expense (Algeria rings a bell, but I could be wrong). That was what prompted FIFA to scrap the second-round group-stage which favoured 'not losing' over winning.

And closer to home: I cannot recall the year but England and Northern Ireland played out a 'hard-fought' (not) 0-0 at Wembley so both qualified for the finals (1982 or 1986 WC qualifier?). No sense of fair play there - barely a shot on target all night........

Small pools/groups always run this risk - one unexpected defeat means you finish second not first, and the likely opponents in the next round try to lose to avoid you......... by losing to the GB women last night, the Brazilian ladies will now play someone who must have thought they would avoid them (I'll check who that is, if anyone's remotely interested).

Meow Jul 31st 2012 11:01 pm

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First gold medal for GB!

Women's rowing :thumbsup:

Autonomy Jul 31st 2012 11:02 pm

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Brilliant! First Team GB GOLD! And first ever women rowing gold for GB...

Boomhauer Jul 31st 2012 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10204436)
Several examples........... 1982 World Cup: the Germans and Austrians played out a 0-0 draw to ensure they both qualified at another team's expense (Algeria rings a bell, but I could be wrong). That was what prompted FIFA to scrap the second-round group-stage which favoured 'not losing' over winning.

And closer to home: I cannot recall the year but England and Northern Ireland played out a 'hard-fought' (not) 0-0 at Wembley so both qualified for the finals (1982 or 1986 WC qualifier?). No sense of fair play there - barely a shot on target all night........

Small pools/groups always run this risk - one unexpected defeat means you finish second not first, and the likely opponents in the next round try to lose to avoid you......... by losing to the GB women last night, the Brazilian ladies will now play someone who must have thought they would avoid them (I'll check who that is, if anyone's remotely interested).

You just know that some people (especially Chinese badminton fans) who are hip to the Chinese strategy of throwing games (they have a recent history of doing this) will have visited the bookies!

typical Jul 31st 2012 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10204436)
by losing to the GB women last night, the Brazilian ladies will now play someone who must have thought they would avoid them (I'll check who that is, if anyone's remotely interested).

Other way round in a way - the loser of Brazil vs GB (i.e. Brazil :thumbsup: ) plays World Champions Japan.

Sandboy Aug 1st 2012 4:08 am

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10204436)
Several examples........... 1982 World Cup: the Germans and Austrians played out a 0-0 draw to ensure they both qualified at another team's expense (Algeria rings a bell, but I could be wrong). That was what prompted FIFA to scrap the second-round group-stage which favoured 'not losing' over winning.

And closer to home: I cannot recall the year but England and Northern Ireland played out a 'hard-fought' (not) 0-0 at Wembley so both qualified for the finals (1982 or 1986 WC qualifier?). No sense of fair play there - barely a shot on target all night........

Small pools/groups always run this risk - one unexpected defeat means you finish second not first, and the likely opponents in the next round try to lose to avoid you......... by losing to the GB women last night, the Brazilian ladies will now play someone who must have thought they would avoid them (I'll check who that is, if anyone's remotely interested).

Coventry v Bristol city 1977, kicked off late and played out the last 15 minutes knowing a draw saved them both and Sunderland would go down. Jimmy Hill still hated...... Not that we're bitter you understand !

The Dean Aug 1st 2012 7:29 am

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Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 10205050)
Coventry v Bristol city 1977, kicked off late and played out the last 15 minutes knowing a draw saved them both and Sunderland would go down. Jimmy Hill still hated...... Not that we're bitter you understand !

Ah yes............ Jimmy Hill announcing the score from the other match over the Coventry tannoy with ten minutes left to play.......

[there has been no mention of Wiggins on here yet]

The Dean Aug 1st 2012 8:06 am

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Heather Stanning, one of the women who won gold in the pairs rowing today, is a captain in the Royal Artillery...........

Her colleagues were watching in Afghanistan........... brilliant picture........

The Dean Aug 1st 2012 9:00 am

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Could I just pop in (again) to recommend london2012.com as the best website ever? Apart from being very easy to navigate around, it isn't updated with scores 'regularly' - it is updated live.

Just had the beach volleyball on the telly while following the score on the website - updates are instantaneous, including each shot (serve, attack, dig, etc).

Superb.

[Ladies about to start - at 10pm London time - with another game after that]

Also:

London Eye looking stunning by night.

And I'm enjoying the commentators' references to London landmarks ("..... at the Downing Street end....")

scrubbedexpat141 Aug 1st 2012 4:15 pm

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Wiggins. ****ing awesome. Great ride, dominate that time trial and the crowd looked absolutely immense. Great stuff. Froome as well, he'll be a champion soon enough.

Glover and Stanning - Missed the rowing because I was at Sega Republic. Gutted. Replays I've watched looked really exciting and again, the crowd were mental.

Don't forget Jamieson's silver in the pool. Only just lost out, another 5 metres and he'd have got gold.


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