As for choices, we don't all get to choose though. I would have dearly loved to have had children in my 20's but there was no Mr Right then to make that happen ( and I certainly wouldn't and still wouldn't have gone down the road of doing the whole flushing the contraceptive pills down the loo to get up the duff).
Then I met my husband, and knowing that he didn't want kids straight away I quietly accepted that as we still had plenty of time to enjoy life, and we both happily agreed on that, and we would wait. Eight years later the marriage became another divorce statistic (for other reasons).
So here I am now, 35, not a cat in hell's chance of meeting Mr Father of my children here, judging by what I've met so far, and I still hold that desire (choice) to have children that I've had since I was a young 20 something. So I now feel the clock is ticking very fast for me.
My career is great, but not because I am career driven - it's because I'm good at what I do and luckily employers have recognised that. I would quite happily give it all up tomorrow though, if I had my choice.
Before this ends up sounding like a sob story, don't get me wrong, my life is great, good friends, loving family etc etc, but I do feel that we can't always choose everything in our lives as easily as some people make out.
Ok, yes, I can go to a sperm bank, look into adoption or whatever, but that would not be my choice either....although the way things are going I might have to seriously start considering it

That's my two penneth worth to the debate anyway.

As for the Can You Have It All question, there's an interesting interview with Karen Brady in one of the glossies this week, think it's in Hello (UK version), sorry I don't have a link. She talks about her experiences on the very same subject.

wow, a totally different perspective, and something i hadn't thought about before...and i should have, as i have a couple of very close friends who can't have children, and are desparate for them and would give up their careers in a flash to have them...

you've still got bags of time though, birdeez...

MM, xx

Well it's just my opinion. Working women end up living alone in their Golden Years

Now back to the subject

If he's your biological father you have everything in common with him Kitty, and who gets akward or uptight around someone they don't like or respect? Not me. Your father probably feels like he was a rotten dad and he thinks that you think that too. Maybe thats why he doesn't know what to say around you, he's ashamed of himself.

Thanks for backin me up here Birdeez

Just to clarify, I am NOT backing you up at all.

I am fully supportive of working mothers - especially those who have to work to put the kid's dinners on the table.

Let me share some more of my experiences with you..When I go a a guys house and his wife is there dressed casually making food, doing chores or just sittin there watching TV..I'm impressed. When we leave I usually end up telling my friend half jokingly "I think i'm in love with your wife"..But when I go to a friends dark and empty house- and a few hours later some woman drives up in a business suit and a bucket of KFC for dinner, I always sincerely say "how do you put up with this shit?"


Now thats the truth

Thanks....now where did I put that fertility testing kit

oh..Perhaps I misunderstood

and
And whats that worth really?- You leave the company and your replaced instantly. While a mom can never be replaced.

Think about it darlin

Yes, you did misunderstand.

Yes I would give it all up (I'm lucky cos I can afford to do that now

Absolutely, of course I can be replaced, in fact, I'm helping my current boss find my successor now as I've been offered a new job.
A mum can never be replaced, of course. doesn't mean you have to be tied together 24/7!

Thanks for backing me up

Quote "Working moms: Shame on you" - Disagree, And it's mums anyway, this is a British Expats board.


Quote :I've noticed over the years that many famous wealthy men have dumped their wives and ran off with their childrens Nanny? It's only natural for a man to be attracted to the woman thats mothering their child, even if the nanny is ugly. And as long as they don't get way overweight mothers are the most attractive women on earth to men. It's the most attractive profession by far. It blows being a nurse, teacher or flight attendant out of the proverbial water ladies.. "
What a load of bollo**s!!!

So, just to clarify, I do not back you up.
Bored now. Next ?

birdeez..loverboy is an old multi user on this bored...take no notice sweetie

and as you have just said, ofcourse you have the choice. You can choose to do the single parent/sperm bank thing if you want to..or not..you could choose to ask a close male friend to donate..doesn't have to be official.... a meatbaster works well darling lol
So it goes back to what I said before, as women we do have the choice :-)

boll0cks!

On call 24/7, crap pay, and the most difficult boss(es) in the world.

You know what I was doing yesterday morning at 6h50? Washing the poo out of my toddler's knickers - by hand - whilst trying to make sure my son wasn't fishing around in the toilet water. I bet your desk job didn't even come close...

Richest rewards though... yes. There's no doubt about that... but you don't need to be a SAHM to have those same rewards. In fact, a lot of my friends have to work to keep a roof over their families' heads and I am in awe of them, because there's some serious juggling going on. Saying that, they've all had to treat their jobs as pure money-earners and would give it up if they could.

Loverboy- You're very possibly right in regards to my dad!

Yes you do-