Bahtatboy

And this:

Europe must assume its responsibility for refugees | The National

The entire ****ing region sat back and let this unfold in their own backyard and continues to do so as the misery deepens. I'm glad I'm out of there, the hypocrisy stinks.

norsk

BBC are reporting a large group of immigrants are now walking from Budapest to the Austrian border. Holy crap that's going to end well I'm sure..

(Sorry for my previous post which Mike deleted. I hadn't read the whole thread so didn't realise I was crossing the line until just now..)

auh123

I am sure our "wise leadership" is going to deliver a great solution. Perhaps a "mall of Syria"?

Boomhauer

Not to mention it is the GCC countries and Israel , especially the former, that are a huge factor fueling the Syrian crisis. GCC governments and individuals are providing financial and diplomatic support for the Sunni rebels who essentially are just jihadists. Assad is a dictator but he is vastly more preferable than the Sunni opposition since the later is going to innitiate vast ethnic cleansing and slaughter if they win.

There's a reason leaders from Syria's Christian community came to Washington to tell DC leaders not to support the Sunni rebels/opposition . The so called rebels have engaged in destruction of churches and ethnic cleansing of Christians.

Syrian Christians Ask US Washington to End Support For Rebels | TIME.com

auh123

That's it, I give up. Emirati colleague says his uncle has gone to Syria to look for a wife......these ugly wankers will go and marry young girls from desperate families and that is supposed to help Syria??????!!!!!!

mikewot

Tockalosh

Imagery is playing such a part in this whole debacle.

So the drama starts with boats full of economic migrant Afs wanting a free lunch in Europe. Shit loads drown and no one really gives a ****
I did like the comment by one Af who made it when he complained that he didn't have the hotel room etc he was expecting when he landed, good old afs, always want something for **** all

Then the image of one Syrian kid washes up on the beach and the West says open the gates

So is a Syrian worth more than an Af ?

I do wish someone would shoot the Guy who is running around telling the Afs that's it's free hotels and sadza for life in Greece

Old gadaffi must be laughing his bollox off now as he swims in his rivers of wine etc. His old country now the invasion departure point for all his happy Muslims and Afs now swarming into Europe ready to breed and displace the original populace

Tockalosh

And all without a single shot being fired

shiva

Images have played a part since the invention of photography. The U.S. Didn't want footage of the dead returning from Iraq and Afghanistan shown on the nightly news for a reason.

Images like little aylan play a huge part in bringing home reality to most populations. They make them directly relatable and why I think they should be shown and why I value photojournalism so highly.

These images will,never lose the "power" they have to elicit emotion and hopefully some thought.













Personally I find it hard not to see my son in this image. For me it's one of the hardest hitting images I've ever seen because I am so emotionally connected to it. He's round about my sons age and buildBand it just elicits a what if in my mind.




Oops, image sizes are horrible. Not changing them now.

As for the crisis. Well yes there is undoubtably one and it's urgent but the media rhetoric about numbers is farcical. The total numbers are a tiny percentage of the population of Europe, nobody will be "overrun" by dirty foreigners and why has nobody mentioned temporary visas. We here are all on renewable visas. If people are so worried about permanent settlement why not have a renewable visa system? As for doing nothing, can we really just let people drown while we turn the other way?

mikewot

My wife and I have no empathy for these people, the pictures leave us cold. We wonder whether we are 'bad' people because of this? For me it is exactly like Diana and the grief whoring that came about.

shiva

If the image doesn't impact you it doesn't impact you. Nothing more to it than that regarding the image itself.

Regarding Diana, yes the national grief festival was utterly sickening but such are people.

"These people" though does make me wonder. Do you think we should try prevent them from drowning and offer refuge to them or are you just fine with them dying at sea and washing up on the beaches of Europe and Turkey? If it's the later then yes you're probably right to wonder. The root causes aside and ignoring any intervention beyond European shores do you propose we do something or nothing once they arrive?

mikewot

'These people', does not seem to matter what word you use to describe them, illegal immigrants, financial refugees etc then someone will take issue with it. People are very welcome to be offended because taking offence can be a bit of a pastime for some.
I am not offering solutions, nor engaging in debate, I was putting my point that I have zero empathy.

shiva

Granted and not offended in anyway.

Empathy isn't required I'm just asking if you think any action should be taken and if so what ?

mikewot

And I said I am not debating it.

shiva

Not seeking a debate just an answer.