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Old Sep 25th 2015, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
Shiraz is a city in Iran, no?



I've noticed (not just on this forum) but that British people of non traditional British ancestry often include certain words or letters in their usernames that you rarely find British people of traditional ancestry using. Z for example, is not a letter commonly found in Britain. And there are certain letters and pairings of letters common in Arabic or Farsi or Urdu that you don't find in English, even with a literal translation into the Latin alphabet. It's interesting how the neurosis of the brain is so culturally ingrained that even descendants of immigrants after a generation or two still more easily make up gibberish usernames that somewhat betray their origins.

Doesn't apply to everyone of course and there are always the exceptions. Irishbeekeeper on here is of Pakistani ancestry, I believe. But it happens enough that I'm no longer surprised.
Maybe Shiraz is his favourite wine, did you think of that at all?
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Changi is nice enough, but I doubt there are many that can compete with Koh Samui for the World's cutest airport

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
And your point is? That's it's justified having Pakistani gangs targeting white British working class girls because of Jimmy Savile?
I think his point was that you seemed to imply that only Asians were paedos.
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Originally Posted by mikewot
There is a meme doing the rounds on FB which I agree with. Basically the message is what happened in the UK during WW2 when the Germans were bombing our cities? Did we all ferck off to better places for a new start? No, we fought the Nazis and rebuilt our cities. We did not abandon the aged, the sick and the poor.
Why are these people basically doing just that, abandoning their 'homeland'.
Not a good comparison really, During WW2 where would normal people have been able to go realistically? The world was at war. All the near countries where pretty messed up. The very rich may have been able to get to the US but that would have been it. The British did have an evacuee program to get children out of London.

On the other hand, Syrians do have many places to go, some will probably want to go back afterwards and rebuild, others won't. Why would you stay in a warzone by choice.
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
What really are the reasonable options with the migrants?

Full lockdown and retreat into Fortress Europe mode or open the floodgates?

A compromise between the two seems unlikely in the short run because how do you document and register the migrants/refugees on a timely and patient basis, with proper assessment of need and risk? And then allocate them in the various countries that's "fair"? Merkel's initial announcement has only encouraged hundreds of thousands, even millions, more to start attempting the crossing. By the time a solution is achieved we're looking at the prospect of several million migrants flooding into the sacred soils of Europe.

The only silver lining I see is that the longer this impasse goes on, exposing the EU fully as the dysfunctional dictatorship it really is, the much more likely the UK will vote to leave the EU.



I know I'm going to get bitchslapped by certain posters for saying this but if you know your history you'll know about the barbarian hordes at the frontiers of the Roman Empire and the Romans initially accepted the tribes and tried to accommodate them, thinking that exposure to civilisation would transform them. But it didn't work out very well, did it? It happened over a long period and it makes me wonder if we're starting to see a similar process happen?
We should be dealing with the source of the problem, which is Syria. Create some kind of safe haven buffer inside Syria along the border with Turkey. Maybe similar to what was created for the Kurds in Iraq.

At least get to the point whereby they can't say they're in danger and that is their reason for coming.

Deal with ISIS.
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Exactly. It can only work if you are there for a couple of generations.

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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
If not for the Vietnamese Boat people of 1975 the US would have about 10,000 less Vietnamese restaurants. Actually considering where they started on the economic rung, they have progressed nicely in the US.
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Originally Posted by Beaverstate
If not for the Vietnamese Boat people of 1975 the US would have about 10,000 less Vietnamese restaurants. Actually considering where they started on the economic rung, they have progressed nicely in the US.
and they make good skunk factories in the UK too
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Originally Posted by nonthaburi
Maybe Shiraz is his favourite wine, did you think of that at all?
No its not....I hate wine!
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Originally Posted by nonthaburi

Deal with ISIS.
on a more serious note, no you cannot deal with something that you dont REALLY want to go away permanently.
Too much money at stake here.

10 companies profiting the most from war

Im not saying its all them, Im saying that there are too many factors in play here and the top 9 out of the 10 factors have to do with monetary / socio economic gains.

As far as the migrant crisis goes, I am sorry to say that the EU is ***ed now because no one really really really wants this war to end.
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I think his point was that you seemed to imply that only Asians were paedos.
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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper
on a more serious note, no you cannot deal with something that you dont REALLY want to go away permanently.
Too much money at stake here.
Or should we consider the world to be like The Matrix...

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Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.
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Originally Posted by scot47
And all of them are preferable to Jaapies and Rhodies.
You must have had a bad experience, perhaps one of those dodgy Greeks or Italians who took citizenship. You can never trust those with the greasy skin, regardless of passport
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You must have had a bad experience, perhaps one of those dodgy Greeks or Italians who took citizenship. You can never trust those with the greasy skin, regardless of passport
Come on Tock. Someone has to man the Star Burgers at 2am
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Come on Tock. Someone has to man the Star Burgers at 2am
True dear sir but the reality of takeaway shop owners is summed up eloquently by the "Macc lads" in "Gordon's revenge"
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