Another Bloody Discgrace
Mar 9th 2009, 10:14 am
#109
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Re: Another Bloody Discgrace
And how much choice have you ever really had in what to believe in BM? Do you have a choice in your life to be anything but a muslim? What would happen if you decided to change your religion or become atheist? Have you ever had the chance to read On Origin of the Species? Have you ever had the chance to read The God Delusion? Have you ever had the chance to really form your own ideas and opinions or have they all come from your religious teaching/upbringing?
i had the chance to look at other religions and see their teaching
and i didn't read the God Delusion (assuming it is a book) .. and i am not the kind of people who form his ideas and opinion based on what his family say... as i said before i disagreed alot with my family in my occasions and managed to change their mind.i seek truth wherever truth is. i can fool others .. but have no interest in fooling my self .... and this universe is not there just out of a sudden .. there must be a creator who is so greatfull to make it.
Mar 10th 2009, 5:28 am
#110
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Re: Another Bloody Discgrace
Hard to see how at the moment, more likely that one group "converts" the other.
If you look at the definition of existentialism as:
"Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines."
Then clearly you would summarise that humans have a free will?
Yet this seems at odds with many of the discoveries of science which point towards an increasingly mechanical world, a system filled with infinite strings of cause and effect. A sort of absolute, basic material model rather than on in which humans have a choice. Often when we use the word "freedom" now we mean "alternative choice".
If you look at the definition of existentialism as:
"Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines."
Then clearly you would summarise that humans have a free will?
Yet this seems at odds with many of the discoveries of science which point towards an increasingly mechanical world, a system filled with infinite strings of cause and effect. A sort of absolute, basic material model rather than on in which humans have a choice. Often when we use the word "freedom" now we mean "alternative choice".
Mar 10th 2009, 10:22 am
#111
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Re: Another Bloody Discgrace
Hard to see how at the moment, more likely that one group "converts" the other.
If you look at the definition of existentialism as:
"Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines."
Then clearly you would summarise that humans have a free will?
Yet this seems at odds with many of the discoveries of science which point towards an increasingly mechanical world, a system filled with infinite strings of cause and effect. A sort of absolute, basic material model rather than on in which humans have a choice. Often when we use the word "freedom" now we mean "alternative choice".
If you look at the definition of existentialism as:
"Existentialism is a philosophical movement which posits that individuals create the meaning and essence of their lives, as opposed to it being created for them by deities or authorities or defined for them by philosophical or theological doctrines."
Then clearly you would summarise that humans have a free will?
Yet this seems at odds with many of the discoveries of science which point towards an increasingly mechanical world, a system filled with infinite strings of cause and effect. A sort of absolute, basic material model rather than on in which humans have a choice. Often when we use the word "freedom" now we mean "alternative choice".
It's obvious that free will is limited when it comes to interacting with the tangible world because most choices boil down (albeit sometimes remotely) to "die or not die".
Rules that govern social interaction also boil down to that basic choice. To be part of a group is to increase your chances of living, and because we all like living, "fitting in" has become an instinct.
In a way [brainwave ahoy], it's hardly surprising that "social rules" are more prevalent in more extreme environments. How would you rate your chances of survival if you were an outcast and stuck in the desert?!
Last edited by Hello.Kitty; Mar 10th 2009 at 10:27 am.
