Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Jul 27th 2005, 12:51 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania, negligible
>numbers from the others.
same here, there's also loads of lorries from the new countries.
Some are clothes, the rest I don't know.
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>The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania, negligible
>numbers from the others.
same here, there's also loads of lorries from the new countries.
Some are clothes, the rest I don't know.
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Jul 27th 2005, 1:08 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 05:29:23 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Jordi wrote:
>> [email protected] ha escrito:
>> > Alan S wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>> > > >countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>> > > >
>> > > >Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>> > > >would be a nightmare.
>> > >
>> > > Not if you're Turkish.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Alan, Australia
>> >
>> > or if you like kebabs
>> There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>> J.
>but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
and exploding Belgian nut cutlets. The other article about Belgium in
yesterdays local paper, was about the arrest of an Italian in Belgium
who was running a successful business removing sell by dates from old
stock and relabeling items new sell by dates. No mention of his
warehouse being blown up. Nor that the stuff was probably sold in the
Netherlands.
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>Jordi wrote:
>> [email protected] ha escrito:
>> > Alan S wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:30 +1000, AABNE
>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Is it right to have free movement of persons and labor, between
>> > > >countries of vastly different standards of living and economic status?
>> > > >
>> > > >Imagine if Turkey was accepted. Think of the flood of migrants... it
>> > > >would be a nightmare.
>> > >
>> > > Not if you're Turkish.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Alan, Australia
>> >
>> > or if you like kebabs
>> There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>> J.
>but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
and exploding Belgian nut cutlets. The other article about Belgium in
yesterdays local paper, was about the arrest of an Italian in Belgium
who was running a successful business removing sell by dates from old
stock and relabeling items new sell by dates. No mention of his
warehouse being blown up. Nor that the stuff was probably sold in the
Netherlands.
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 1:12 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 05:36:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>The Reids wrote:
>> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>> prestwich tesco
>> >The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
>> >country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
>> >know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
>> >there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
>> >lots of highly skilled workers
>> depends how you define what UK means. If UK business, then a
>> gain. For UK workers, no benefit in competing with people willing
>> to do your job for less. Or competing for housing or health
>> resources
At least Poles don't piss in your water tank when they are doing
plumbing repairs. Well maybe they do, but they haven't been caught on
camera doing it, yet.
>as long as they pay tax/ni whats the difference ?
About GBP500 for simple plumbing job? Mercans will miss the tangy je
ne sais quoi taste.:-)
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>The Reids wrote:
>> Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>> prestwich tesco
>> >The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
>> >country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
>> >know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
>> >there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
>> >lots of highly skilled workers
>> depends how you define what UK means. If UK business, then a
>> gain. For UK workers, no benefit in competing with people willing
>> to do your job for less. Or competing for housing or health
>> resources
At least Poles don't piss in your water tank when they are doing
plumbing repairs. Well maybe they do, but they haven't been caught on
camera doing it, yet.
>as long as they pay tax/ni whats the difference ?
About GBP500 for simple plumbing job? Mercans will miss the tangy je
ne sais quoi taste.:-)
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Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 1:15 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:33:24 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>prestwich tesco
>>The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
>>country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
>>know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
>>there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
>>lots of highly skilled workers
>depends how you define what UK means. If UK business, then a
>gain. For UK workers, no benefit in competing with people willing
>to do your job for less. Or competing for housing or health
>resources
To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>prestwich tesco
>>The UK (Ireland too?) is the only
>>country so far to give full working rights to them, and while I don't
>>know what effect it's having on the labour situation in those countries,
>>there's no doubt that the UK is benefitting from the influx of labour-
>>lots of highly skilled workers
>depends how you define what UK means. If UK business, then a
>gain. For UK workers, no benefit in competing with people willing
>to do your job for less. Or competing for housing or health
>resources
To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
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Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 1:15 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
[email protected] writes:
> Jordi wrote:
> > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>
> but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
Des
> Jordi wrote:
> > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>
> but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 1:15 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:51:19 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>>The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>>Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania, negligible
>>numbers from the others.
>same here, there's also loads of lorries from the new countries.
>Some are clothes, the rest I don't know.
Dutch flower trucks packed with illegal immigrants and drugs?
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>>The country seems to be full of Latvians and
>>Lithuanians. Smaller numbers from Poland and Lithuania, negligible
>>numbers from the others.
>same here, there's also loads of lorries from the new countries.
>Some are clothes, the rest I don't know.
Dutch flower trucks packed with illegal immigrants and drugs?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 1:26 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
On 27 Jul 2005 14:15:11 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>> Jordi wrote:
>> > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>>
>> but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
>Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
>kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
>Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
Unwelcome competition? :-)
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wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>> Jordi wrote:
>> > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
>>
>> but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
>Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
>kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
>Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
Unwelcome competition? :-)
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Jul 27th 2005, 1:30 pm
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Martin <[email protected]> writes:
> On 27 Jul 2005 14:15:11 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> >kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> >Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>
> Unwelcome competition? :-)
Not at all; a perfect synergy with the pub in between.
Des
> On 27 Jul 2005 14:15:11 +0100, Des Small <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> >kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> >Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>
> Unwelcome competition? :-)
Not at all; a perfect synergy with the pub in between.
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 1:33 pm
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Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?
Des Small <[email protected]> wrote:
> Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
;-)
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> Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
;-)
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Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
Jul 27th 2005, 1:43 pm
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Following up to Martin
>Or competing for housing or health
>>resources
>To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
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>Or competing for housing or health
>>resources
>To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Jul 27th 2005, 1:43 pm
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Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> writes:
> Des Small <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> > kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> > Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>
> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
> ;-)
:->
Des
> Des Small <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> > kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> > Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>
> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
> ;-)
:->
Des
Jul 27th 2005, 1:55 pm
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:43:46 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>Or competing for housing or health
>>>resources
>>To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
Agent 3 soon!
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin
>>Or competing for housing or health
>>>resources
>>To a large extent UK health resources are immigrants.
>Yes, good point. I just upgraded to Agent 2 (as my killfile
>seemed not to work reliably), it seems to have improved the
>quality of the GOLs Excellent! :-)
Agent 3 soon!
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Martin
Jul 27th 2005, 1:59 pm
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Des Small ha escrito:
> [email protected] writes:
> > Jordi wrote:
> > > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
> >
> > but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
> Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
I live in a small-ish town in Spain. 1st kebab joint opened some 5-6
years ago, and now there are well over 10.
Btw the kebab rolls used here are all made in Germany.
J.
> [email protected] writes:
> > Jordi wrote:
> > > There are probably more kebabs in Germany than in Turkey now.
> >
> > but in the new europe should not we all have access to such kebabs !
> Who is it that still doesn't? I've seen and in some cases eaten döner
> kebaps in Oslo, Bergen, Berlin, Genoa, Madrid and ubiquitously in
> Britain. (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
I live in a small-ish town in Spain. 1st kebab joint opened some 5-6
years ago, and now there are well over 10.
Btw the kebab rolls used here are all made in Germany.
J.
Jul 27th 2005, 1:59 pm
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Following up to Des Small
> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>>
>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
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> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>>
>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
--
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Jul 27th 2005, 2:03 pm
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Des Small
>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>>>
>>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
>so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
>serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
hour to renaissance men.
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Des Small
>> (A new kebab shop has just opened next door but one to me.)
>>>
>>> As a vegetarian, I want to know how many also server Falafel.
>>Oh, I think they'll serve anyone.
>so you live next door to a pub and a kebab joint and they will
>serve anyone, posh is it? :-)
Next Des will tell us he sells KFC and rents broom cupboards by the
hour to renaissance men.
--
Martin