Pan

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:17:12 +0100, "Runge" wrote:

    >Wus talking about Anacostia or sumthin like it
    >And I was told NOT to walk around there...by an american racist?
    >he didn't say don't go cos its black, he sais don't go cos it's dangerous.
    >Oh well

Yeah. Oh well, you don't seem to know the difference. You're a racist;
he wasn't.

Michael

Pan

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:55:12 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:

    >You said the word 'black'. That's enough nowadays to get the racist label.

No it isn't. Not in the U.S.

    >Personally I am dubious of anyone who claims NOT to be racist (whatever that
    >word means anyway).

Speak for yourself. And check a dictionary if you're in doubt about
the meaning of "racism."

Michael

Deep Floyd Mars

You said the word 'black'. That's enough nowadays to get the racist label.

Personally I am dubious of anyone who claims NOT to be racist (whatever that
word means anyway).
---
DFM

Runge wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > can you read?
    > i'm no more a racist than u are
    > read the post again
    > "Pan" a écrit dans le message de news:
    > [email protected]...
    > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:49:25 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > >
    > > [snip]
    > > >Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a
life
    > > >beyond your block
    > > >If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest,
    > let
    > > >me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
    > > >Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
    > > >Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
    > > [snip]
    > >
    > > That's most of the city, you racist fool! DC is 70% black, and most of
    > > it is safe to walk through. I walked through DC day and night for a
    > > week without any problems.
    > >
    > > Michael

Runge

Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.

"Pan" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:17:12 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > >Wus talking about Anacostia or sumthin like it
    > >And I was told NOT to walk around there...by an american racist?
    > >he didn't say don't go cos its black, he sais don't go cos it's
dangerous.
    > >Oh well
    > Yeah. Oh well, you don't seem to know the difference. You're a racist;
    > he wasn't.
    > Michael

Runge

Ohhhh yeah OK I said black, well its the direct translation from my language
Should I say "colored"?
Anyway I would have thought real travellers could understand the differences
in languages and the fact that non US citizens don't always write and talk
like people in kansas...
I said black and I meant people with darker skin than others.
And those well thinking people should turn their tongue 7 times inside their
mouths before accusing others of anything.
And just why should we talk to you in perfect US english on a europe group
where we try to help you???


"Deep Floyd Mars" a écrit dans le
message de news: [email protected]...
    > You said the word 'black'. That's enough nowadays to get the racist label.
    > Personally I am dubious of anyone who claims NOT to be racist (whatever
that
    > word means anyway).
    > ---
    > DFM
    > Runge wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > can you read?
    > > i'm no more a racist than u are
    > > read the post again
    > >
    > > "Pan" a écrit dans le message de news:
    > > [email protected]...
    > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:49:25 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > [snip]
    > > > >Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a
    > life
    > > > >beyond your block
    > > > >If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I
suggest,
    > > let
    > > > >me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
    > > > >Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
    > > > >Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
    > > > [snip]
    > > >
    > > > That's most of the city, you racist fool! DC is 70% black, and most of
    > > > it is safe to walk through. I walked through DC day and night for a
    > > > week without any problems.
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > >
    > >

Pan

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 23:06:34 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:

    >Pan wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:55:12 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
    >> wrote:

    >> >Personally I am dubious of anyone who claims NOT to be racist (whatever
    >that
    >> >word means anyway).
    >> Speak for yourself. And check a dictionary if you're in doubt about
    >> the meaning of "racism."
    >Thanks for the tip, Michael (who is not a racist). Enjoy walking DC!

Thanks. I had a great time. And to you, enjoy calling the entire human
race "racist, whatever that is," since that seems to make you feel
good.

Michael

Pan

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:56 +0100, "Runge" wrote:

    >Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
    >No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
    >But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.

Look, if you don't understand that writing that "the black quarter" of
DC is dangerous is a racist statement, I hope you take a clue from my
responses and learn that it is. You may not be a racist, and I'll take
your word for it, but you did make a statement that was both stupid
and - whether intentionally or unintentionally - racist.

Michael

Deep Floyd Mars

Pan wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:55:12 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
    > wrote:
    > >You said the word 'black'. That's enough nowadays to get the racist
label.
    > No it isn't. Not in the U.S.

I'm assured.

    > >Personally I am dubious of anyone who claims NOT to be racist (whatever
that
    > >word means anyway).
    > Speak for yourself. And check a dictionary if you're in doubt about
    > the meaning of "racism."

Thanks for the tip, Michael (who is not a racist). Enjoy walking DC!
---
DFM

Truck Rfd

fRANCE,gERMANY and rUSSIA should be safe.The already surrendered to the
terrorist.

Pan

On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:08:36 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
wrote:

    >Pan wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:56 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    >> >Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
    >> >No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
    >> >But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.
    >> Look, if you don't understand that writing that "the black quarter" of
    >> DC is dangerous is a racist statement, I hope you take a clue from my
    >> responses and learn that it is. You may not be a racist, and I'll take
    >> your word for it, but you did make a statement that was both stupid
    >> and - whether intentionally or unintentionally - racist.
    >> Michael
    >Writing "the black quarter of DC is dangerous" is not racist, it's a safety
    >related observation.
[snip]

Are you aware that DC is 70% black? So at the very best, it's a highly
ignorant statement.

Michael

Deep Floyd Mars

Pan wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:56 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > >Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
    > >No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
    > >But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.
    > Look, if you don't understand that writing that "the black quarter" of
    > DC is dangerous is a racist statement, I hope you take a clue from my
    > responses and learn that it is. You may not be a racist, and I'll take
    > your word for it, but you did make a statement that was both stupid
    > and - whether intentionally or unintentionally - racist.
    > Michael

Writing "the black quarter of DC is dangerous" is not racist, it's a safety
related observation.

The racist tag you love to throw around is meaningless.
---
DFM

Deep Floyd Mars

Pan wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:08:36 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
    > wrote:
    > >Pan wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:56 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
    > >> >No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
    > >> >But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.
    > >>
    > >> Look, if you don't understand that writing that "the black quarter" of
    > >> DC is dangerous is a racist statement, I hope you take a clue from my
    > >> responses and learn that it is. You may not be a racist, and I'll take
    > >> your word for it, but you did make a statement that was both stupid
    > >> and - whether intentionally or unintentionally - racist.
    > >>
    > >> Michael
    > >
    > >Writing "the black quarter of DC is dangerous" is not racist, it's a
safety
    > >related observation.
    > [snip]
    > Are you aware that DC is 70% black? So at the very best, it's a highly
    > ignorant statement.

Read my statement and then read your own. Are you on drugs, a child, an
idiot, or a combination thereof?
---
DFM

Runge

You are on a group about Europe...
So there are a few europeans on it too
Of course , US english is NOT their mother tongue
I suppose you think your language is the language of the world
Sooo if you're not tolerant, hard luck!
Your accusations are appalling and I think the person must be too!
And in reality I don't care what is racist or not : black, colored, negroe
or I dunno what.
I still live in a free world , it seems not the case for you...
So you be very picky about the words YOU use, I'm just a poor, ignorant
foreigner.
Bye bye now!

"Pan" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:08:36 -0000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
    > wrote:
    > >Pan wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:56 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Dunno Y u treat me like that, it seems you didn't understand my posts.
    > >> >No sir I'm not a racist otherwise I wouldn't be on a travel group.
    > >> >But there is certainly a bunch of them, mostly from your country.
    > >>
    > >> Look, if you don't understand that writing that "the black quarter" of
    > >> DC is dangerous is a racist statement, I hope you take a clue from my
    > >> responses and learn that it is. You may not be a racist, and I'll take
    > >> your word for it, but you did make a statement that was both stupid
    > >> and - whether intentionally or unintentionally - racist.
    > >>
    > >> Michael
    > >
    > >Writing "the black quarter of DC is dangerous" is not racist, it's a
safety
    > >related observation.
    > [snip]
    > Are you aware that DC is 70% black? So at the very best, it's a highly
    > ignorant statement.
    > Michael

Kyle

Add Belguim(what a useless piece of land!)
"Truck Rfd" wrote in message
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    > fRANCE,gERMANY and rUSSIA should be safe.The already surrendered to the
    > terrorist.

Evelynvogtgamble

Runge wrote:
    >
    > Ohhhh yeah OK I said black, well its the direct translation from my language
    > Should I say "colored"?

The "proper" term changes (sometimes from day to day). There was a time
when "black" was considered an insult, and "negro" was the proper word.
Then the correct word was "colored", then it revolved back to "black"
again - now I think the politically correct term is "Afro-American" (but
that may change, tomorrow).

    > Anyway I would have thought real travellers could understand the differences
    > in languages and the fact that non US citizens don't always write and talk
    > like people in kansas...

Which is why most of us see no reason to criticize spelling and grammar,
here (unless the poster is American - they SHOULD know their own
language, but often do not). Whatever errors our European posters may
make, they are posting intelligibly in what is for them a foreign
language. Comparatively few Americans are able to do the same in any
European language.