Safety?
Feb 6th 2003, 10:52 pm
#16
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Re: Safety?
In article , [email protected] (Jim Ley)
wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:41:20 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 02:54:16 GMT, [email protected] (Irwell) wrote:
> >
> >>Remember Victor Stallone (tough guy Rambo) cancelling'
> >>his trip to the Cannes Film Festival? Gulf War
> >
> >Sylvester?
>
> No, he was a poor unfortunate cat that was so deprived by its owner it
> had to spend it's unfortunate bedraggled life killing itself in the
> vain chase of tiny little bird for what little sustenance it would
> give it.
Don't talk about Tony Blair that way, it's disrespectful.
wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:41:20 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 02:54:16 GMT, [email protected] (Irwell) wrote:
> >
> >>Remember Victor Stallone (tough guy Rambo) cancelling'
> >>his trip to the Cannes Film Festival? Gulf War
> >
> >Sylvester?
>
> No, he was a poor unfortunate cat that was so deprived by its owner it
> had to spend it's unfortunate bedraggled life killing itself in the
> vain chase of tiny little bird for what little sustenance it would
> give it.
Don't talk about Tony Blair that way, it's disrespectful.
Feb 6th 2003, 11:48 pm
#17
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Re: Safety?
> My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
> Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
it?
> Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
it?
Feb 7th 2003, 4:14 am
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Re: Safety?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:47:26 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, "kyle"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month. Considering
... cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
... Thanks
When Death is after you, it will get you wherever you are.
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Le verbe "aimer" est le plus compliqué de la langue. Son passé n'est jamais simple, son présent n'est qu'imparfait et son futur toujours conditionnel.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month. Considering
... cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
... Thanks
When Death is after you, it will get you wherever you are.
=====
Le verbe "aimer" est le plus compliqué de la langue. Son passé n'est jamais simple, son présent n'est qu'imparfait et son futur toujours conditionnel.
Feb 7th 2003, 6:53 am
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Re: Safety?
"kyle" wrote in message
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> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
What security threats?
Richard
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> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
What security threats?
Richard
Feb 7th 2003, 7:18 am
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Re: Safety?
"Pan" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:47:26 -0500, "kyle"
> wrote:
> >My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> >cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> Yeah. My specific thought for you is to go and stop worrying.
> My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
> Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
> anyone to believe that there's more risk of terrorism in Europe than
> the U.S. I wish people would stop posting questions like these, and I
> consider them to be ignorant questions.
> Michael
Not just Americans posting this type of messages, but also Europeans posting
similar messages in rec.travel.usa-canada.
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:47:26 -0500, "kyle"
> wrote:
> >My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> >cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> Yeah. My specific thought for you is to go and stop worrying.
> My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
> Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
> anyone to believe that there's more risk of terrorism in Europe than
> the U.S. I wish people would stop posting questions like these, and I
> consider them to be ignorant questions.
> Michael
Not just Americans posting this type of messages, but also Europeans posting
similar messages in rec.travel.usa-canada.
Feb 7th 2003, 7:30 am
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Re: Safety?
"Richard" wrote in message
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> "kyle" wrote in message
> news:AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> What security threats?
> Richard
Yeah, what security threats? The ones at home or abroad?
Go on vacation. If you disrupt your life, the ****ers win.
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> "kyle" wrote in message
> news:AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> What security threats?
> Richard
Yeah, what security threats? The ones at home or abroad?
Go on vacation. If you disrupt your life, the ****ers win.
Feb 7th 2003, 7:38 am
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Re: Safety?
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Yeah, there sure seems to be a lot of that going around her in the U.S.
I'm leaving for France in about 6 weeks and I wish it were tomorrow!
I'd much rather be in Europe than here when our fearless cowboy in the
white house gets this war he so excited about.
I think the leaders who decide to go to war should be leading the first
line of troops going in. Might make them think a bit more. I they are
the type for whom thinking is possible, that is...
Ellie
Fustanella wrote:
>>My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
>>Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
>>it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
>>
>It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
>good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
>it?
>
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Yeah, there sure seems to be a lot of  that going around her in the U.S.
 I'm leaving for France in about 6 weeks and I wish it were tomorrow!  I'd
much rather be in Europe than here when our fearless cowboy in the white
house gets this war he so excited about.
I think the leaders who decide to go to war should be leading the first line
of troops going in. Â Might make them think a bit more. Â I they are the type
for whom thinking is possible, that is...
Ellie
Fustanella wrote:
My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
it?
--
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~
http://www.ellieclemens.com
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president
or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong
is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
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Yeah, there sure seems to be a lot of that going around her in the U.S.
I'm leaving for France in about 6 weeks and I wish it were tomorrow!
I'd much rather be in Europe than here when our fearless cowboy in the
white house gets this war he so excited about.
I think the leaders who decide to go to war should be leading the first
line of troops going in. Might make them think a bit more. I they are
the type for whom thinking is possible, that is...
Ellie
Fustanella wrote:
>>My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
>>Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
>>it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
>>
>It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
>good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
>it?
>
--
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~
http://www.ellieclemens.com
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president
or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong
is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
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Yeah, there sure seems to be a lot of  that going around her in the U.S.
 I'm leaving for France in about 6 weeks and I wish it were tomorrow!  I'd
much rather be in Europe than here when our fearless cowboy in the white
house gets this war he so excited about.
I think the leaders who decide to go to war should be leading the first line
of troops going in. Â Might make them think a bit more. Â I they are the type
for whom thinking is possible, that is...
Ellie
Fustanella wrote:
My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
It's being drummed into their heads as part of the pre-war game - America
good, Europe not so good but still good-ish, Middle East bad. Lovely, ain't
it?
--
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~
http://www.ellieclemens.com
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president
or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong
is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
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Feb 7th 2003, 7:49 am
#23
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Re: Safety?
A GROUP tour?? And you feel threatened?
Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do something
with that kind of feeling...
Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping zone
Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash TV !!
Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a life
beyond your block
If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest, let
me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US citizen...but I
bet you are!!!
;-))
No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
Who told you about security threats?
There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel too
much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
"kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> Thanks
Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do something
with that kind of feeling...
Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping zone
Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash TV !!
Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a life
beyond your block
If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest, let
me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US citizen...but I
bet you are!!!
;-))
No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
Who told you about security threats?
There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel too
much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
"kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
Considering
> cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> Thanks
Feb 7th 2003, 8:07 am
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Re: Safety?
This reply is just about as ignorant as the OP. Shopping center where
people fire guns at you? Street full of beggars at night? Who would they
be begging from at night? Black areas in the city? You might want to stay
in your nice white European neighborhood.
"Runge" wrote in message
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> A GROUP tour?? And you feel threatened?
> Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do something
> with that kind of feeling...
> Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping zone
> Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash TV
!!
> Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
> Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a life
> beyond your block
> If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest,
let
> me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
> Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
> Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
> or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
> How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
> Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US citizen...but
I
> bet you are!!!
> ;-))
> No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
> Who told you about security threats?
> There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel
too
> much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
> "kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
> AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
people fire guns at you? Street full of beggars at night? Who would they
be begging from at night? Black areas in the city? You might want to stay
in your nice white European neighborhood.
"Runge" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A GROUP tour?? And you feel threatened?
> Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do something
> with that kind of feeling...
> Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping zone
> Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash TV
!!
> Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
> Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a life
> beyond your block
> If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest,
let
> me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
> Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
> Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
> or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
> How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
> Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US citizen...but
I
> bet you are!!!
> ;-))
> No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
> Who told you about security threats?
> There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel
too
> much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
> "kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
> AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
Feb 7th 2003, 9:00 am
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Re: Safety?
"Peter L" wrote in message
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> "Pan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:47:26 -0500, "kyle"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > >cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> >
> > Yeah. My specific thought for you is to go and stop worrying.
> >
> > My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
> > Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> > it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
> > anyone to believe that there's more risk of terrorism in Europe than
> > the U.S. I wish people would stop posting questions like these, and I
> > consider them to be ignorant questions.
> >
> > Michael
> Not just Americans posting this type of messages, but also Europeans
posting
> similar messages in rec.travel.usa-canada.
IMO, those visiting the USA have more reason. But even then, the chances of
any one individual being involved are very extremely small. No one is going
to attack the tourist lodge at Grand Canyon National Park - too far from a
major TV news origination point.
If there are successful terror attacks, I'd expect them to be in the USA
(and possibly the UK), not continental Europe. But who said I was an
expert?
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> "Pan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:47:26 -0500, "kyle"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> Considering
> > >cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> >
> > Yeah. My specific thought for you is to go and stop worrying.
> >
> > My general thought is that I'm getting tired of the number of
> > Americans posting this kind of message. Nothing personal to you, but
> > it's silly at best. There is no logical reason I can think of for
> > anyone to believe that there's more risk of terrorism in Europe than
> > the U.S. I wish people would stop posting questions like these, and I
> > consider them to be ignorant questions.
> >
> > Michael
> Not just Americans posting this type of messages, but also Europeans
posting
> similar messages in rec.travel.usa-canada.
IMO, those visiting the USA have more reason. But even then, the chances of
any one individual being involved are very extremely small. No one is going
to attack the tourist lodge at Grand Canyon National Park - too far from a
major TV news origination point.
If there are successful terror attacks, I'd expect them to be in the USA
(and possibly the UK), not continental Europe. But who said I was an
expert?
Feb 7th 2003, 10:46 am
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Re: Safety?
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> kyle wrote:
>> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
>> Considering cancelling because of all the security threats. Any
>> opinions on this?
>
> I think it's a very good idea. During the last Gulf War over 1400
> Americans were drawn and quartered in town squares by angry Europeans.
well, they were REALLY good, tasteful, juicy people. Could we have some
more, please ?
QQG/
news:[email protected]:
> kyle wrote:
>> My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
>> Considering cancelling because of all the security threats. Any
>> opinions on this?
>
> I think it's a very good idea. During the last Gulf War over 1400
> Americans were drawn and quartered in town squares by angry Europeans.
well, they were REALLY good, tasteful, juicy people. Could we have some
more, please ?
QQG/
Feb 7th 2003, 11:09 am
#27
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Re: Safety?
Well open your eyes
The shopping centers where people fire guns at you ...never heard of those 2
guys who got caught around Washington if I remember correctly? Hiding in the
boot of the car or something?
no?
Street full of beggars..yep I stayed in a Holiday Inn at SF, out in the
evening (it was dark) full of them !!
Black areas?
yep! i couldn't remember the name but now I got it : Anacostia or something
similar in Washington DC : been told by some ignorant american fool I guess
(from your point of view) to never get out of the car in that district.
Now would you like to have a nice walk downtown Detroit in a nice warm
summer evening?
Peter68 you got to learn a bit more and I suggest you just get along and
open your eyes.
Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
certainly not you...
How about a nice trip in a nice white european neighboorhood for a change?
Or is new jersey really your kind of trip?
troll !
"Peter L" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> This reply is just about as ignorant as the OP. Shopping center where
> people fire guns at you? Street full of beggars at night? Who would they
> be begging from at night? Black areas in the city? You might want to
stay
> in your nice white European neighborhood.
> "Runge" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A GROUP tour?? And you feel threatened?
> > Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do
something
> > with that kind of feeling...
> > Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping
zone
> > Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash
TV
> !!
> > Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
> > Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a
life
> > beyond your block
> > If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest,
> let
> > me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
> > Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
> > Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
> > or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
> > How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
> >
> > Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US
citizen...but
> I
> > bet you are!!!
> > ;-))
> > No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
> > Who told you about security threats?
> > There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel
> too
> > much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
> >
> >
> > "kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
> > AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> > Considering
> > > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
The shopping centers where people fire guns at you ...never heard of those 2
guys who got caught around Washington if I remember correctly? Hiding in the
boot of the car or something?
no?
Street full of beggars..yep I stayed in a Holiday Inn at SF, out in the
evening (it was dark) full of them !!
Black areas?
yep! i couldn't remember the name but now I got it : Anacostia or something
similar in Washington DC : been told by some ignorant american fool I guess
(from your point of view) to never get out of the car in that district.
Now would you like to have a nice walk downtown Detroit in a nice warm
summer evening?
Peter68 you got to learn a bit more and I suggest you just get along and
open your eyes.
Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
certainly not you...
How about a nice trip in a nice white european neighboorhood for a change?
Or is new jersey really your kind of trip?
troll !
"Peter L" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> This reply is just about as ignorant as the OP. Shopping center where
> people fire guns at you? Street full of beggars at night? Who would they
> be begging from at night? Black areas in the city? You might want to
stay
> in your nice white European neighborhood.
> "Runge" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A GROUP tour?? And you feel threatened?
> > Well, first ask yourself why your nationality should have to do
something
> > with that kind of feeling...
> > Then, try and consider the world differently than your local shopping
zone
> > Stop listening to all that propaganda : you're watching too much Trash
TV
> !!
> > Look at the map : you'll notice that Iraq is a long long way from Europe
> > Now if you feel verrry brave, make the trip and you'll see there's a
life
> > beyond your block
> > If you don't, stay well tucked in the middle of the States : I suggest,
> let
> > me see...Buffalo city center, Detroit downtown, LA downtown at night,
> > Brooklyn or some parts of New Jersey...
> > Oh, maybe that nice place in Washington, you know the black district?
> > or those shopping centers where people fire guns on you...
> > How about those nice dark streets in SF full of beggars at night??
> >
> > Of course as a gentleman pointed out, maybe you're not a US
citizen...but
> I
> > bet you are!!!
> > ;-))
> > No hard feelings, but that was a real stupid question.
> > Who told you about security threats?
> > There will be one soon in Iraq, but never mind : the Iraqis don't travel
> too
> > much these days so they'll be in good place to enjoy the fireworks.
> >
> >
> > "kyle" a écrit dans le message de news:
> > AdD0a.5043$ry3.1831@FE06...
> > > My wife and I scheduled for a group tour of Europe, next month.
> > Considering
> > > cancelling because of all the security threats. Any opinions on this?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Feb 7th 2003, 12:44 pm
#28
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Re: Safety?
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:09:20 +0100, "Runge" wrote:
>Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
>countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
>certainly not you...
Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but having a Frenchman lecture you
about arrogance is a bit like Michael Jackson calling you a weirdo...
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>Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
>countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
>certainly not you...
Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but having a Frenchman lecture you
about arrogance is a bit like Michael Jackson calling you a weirdo...
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Feb 7th 2003, 1:03 pm
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Re: Safety?
le Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:44:51 GMT, dans l'article , Charles Hawtrey a dit ...
>>Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
>>countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
>>certainly not you...
> Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but having a Frenchman lecture you
> about arrogance is a bit like Michael Jackson calling you a weirdo...
Or an American talking about justice ... education ... discretion ...
cuisine ...
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>>Now the problem my friend is that people like you make believe your fellow
>>countrymen, at least some of them that you are superior...no one is and
>>certainly not you...
> Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but having a Frenchman lecture you
> about arrogance is a bit like Michael Jackson calling you a weirdo...
Or an American talking about justice ... education ... discretion ...
cuisine ...
--
Desmond Coughlan
desmond @ zeouane.org
http: // www . zeouane . org
Feb 7th 2003, 2:41 pm
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Re: Safety?
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:13:09 +0100, "hobart xaxinojo"
wrote:
>first of all this person never said they were afraid of being attacked in a
>particular place. perhaps they are just a little hesitant to fly. why is
>this ignorant. if you all believe there is no threat in europe then look a
>few years ago to all the bombings.
No-one is arguing that there is no possibility of danger in Europe.
The ignorance in the question is the assumption that it is safe to
remain in the U.S. and might be more dangerous to be in Europe. I
don't see any basis for such a thought.
> the fact is americans have become
>targets
As has the U.S. itself.
> and too bad if you don't like americans asking about this - then
>dont answer. this is an open forum.
It's an open forum, so I'm permitted to answer as I see fit, thank you
very much.
>oh yeah and what makes you think they are american.
Come on now! Who's been asking these kinds of questions for months?
New Zealanders? Chileans, perhaps?
> maybe they are asian or
>african or australian or whatever.
[sarcasm mode]Yeah, right.[sarcasm mode off]
> fact is some people dont think about
>this kind of thing and others do. so what.
Defensive, eh?
>if you do not think there is a danger than take a look at the streets of the
>major european cities for a second. maybe you dont see all the special
>police. maybe you dont see the embassies blocked off. maybe you dont see
>the streets blocked off.
The issue isn't whether Europe is 100% safe. It's whether it's more
dangerous than the U.S. It isn't.
>so finally i say to this person cancel the trip if it is not so important to
>you. go some place close to home where you will feel comfortable and have a
>worry free time. after all it is a vacation.
They can do whatever they want, but they're probably in more danger in
the U.S. than in Europe.
Michael
wrote:
>first of all this person never said they were afraid of being attacked in a
>particular place. perhaps they are just a little hesitant to fly. why is
>this ignorant. if you all believe there is no threat in europe then look a
>few years ago to all the bombings.
No-one is arguing that there is no possibility of danger in Europe.
The ignorance in the question is the assumption that it is safe to
remain in the U.S. and might be more dangerous to be in Europe. I
don't see any basis for such a thought.
> the fact is americans have become
>targets
As has the U.S. itself.
> and too bad if you don't like americans asking about this - then
>dont answer. this is an open forum.
It's an open forum, so I'm permitted to answer as I see fit, thank you
very much.
>oh yeah and what makes you think they are american.
Come on now! Who's been asking these kinds of questions for months?
New Zealanders? Chileans, perhaps?
> maybe they are asian or
>african or australian or whatever.
[sarcasm mode]Yeah, right.[sarcasm mode off]
> fact is some people dont think about
>this kind of thing and others do. so what.
Defensive, eh?
>if you do not think there is a danger than take a look at the streets of the
>major european cities for a second. maybe you dont see all the special
>police. maybe you dont see the embassies blocked off. maybe you dont see
>the streets blocked off.
The issue isn't whether Europe is 100% safe. It's whether it's more
dangerous than the U.S. It isn't.
>so finally i say to this person cancel the trip if it is not so important to
>you. go some place close to home where you will feel comfortable and have a
>worry free time. after all it is a vacation.
They can do whatever they want, but they're probably in more danger in
the U.S. than in Europe.
Michael
