Planned Belgian motorway tax
Jan 13th 2007 | 5:16 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>
>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>>> bargain.
>>>
>>> B;
>>>
>>
>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>
> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
> disposed
> of some too.
> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
> enquiries.
Surely London is nearer?
tim
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> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>
>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>>> bargain.
>>>
>>> B;
>>>
>>
>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>
> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
> disposed
> of some too.
> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
> enquiries.
Surely London is nearer?
tim
Jan 13th 2007 | 5:18 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> Martin
I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
Seems only fair really..............
Jenny
> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> Martin
I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
Seems only fair really..............
Jenny
Jan 13th 2007 | 5:27 am
#33
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>> Martin
>
>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
>Seems only fair really..............
Hi Jenny, welcome!
Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
Frightening!
I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvignet_is_discriminerend
"Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de actie
Boycot de Belgen.
‘Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en struiken
hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.’
Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
‘Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn prijzen voor
Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. ’
Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
‘Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar het
zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.’ "
--
Martin
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>> Martin
>
>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
>Seems only fair really..............
Hi Jenny, welcome!
Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
Frightening!
I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvignet_is_discriminerend
"Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de actie
Boycot de Belgen.
‘Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en struiken
hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.’
Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
‘Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn prijzen voor
Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. ’
Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
‘Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar het
zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.’ "
--
Martin
Jan 13th 2007 | 5:31 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>
>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>>>> bargain.
>>>>
>>>> B;
>>>>
>>>
>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>
>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>> disposed
>> of some too.
>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>> enquiries.
>
>Surely London is nearer?
I was quoting the answering machine.
Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
http://www.australian-embassy.nl/thag/1.html
"Visa - Important Notice
The Australian Embassy in The Hague no longer processes, issues or evidences
visas. This is now done by the Visa Services Section at the Australian Embassy
in Berlin."
The Oz embassy is still in the Hague but the lights are out?
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>
>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>>>> bargain.
>>>>
>>>> B;
>>>>
>>>
>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>
>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>> disposed
>> of some too.
>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>> enquiries.
>
>Surely London is nearer?
I was quoting the answering machine.
Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
http://www.australian-embassy.nl/thag/1.html
"Visa - Important Notice
The Australian Embassy in The Hague no longer processes, issues or evidences
visas. This is now done by the Visa Services Section at the Australian Embassy
in Berlin."
The Oz embassy is still in the Hague but the lights are out?
--
Martin
Jan 13th 2007 | 6:31 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>> > to
>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>> better
>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>
>>>>> B;
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>
>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>>> disposed
>>> of some too.
>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>>> enquiries.
>>
>>Surely London is nearer?
>
> I was quoting the answering machine.
>
> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
'customers' to Germany.
tim
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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>> > to
>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>> better
>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>
>>>>> B;
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>
>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>>> disposed
>>> of some too.
>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>>> enquiries.
>>
>>Surely London is nearer?
>
> I was quoting the answering machine.
>
> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
'customers' to Germany.
tim
Jan 13th 2007 | 6:32 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>>> Martin
>>
>>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
>>Seems only fair really..............
>
> Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> Frightening!
>
> I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvignet_is_discriminerend
>
> "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de
> actie
> Boycot de Belgen.
>
> 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> struiken
> hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> prijzen voor
> Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar
> het
> zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "
Would you like to enlighten those of us who can't read it?
thanks
tim
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>>> Martin
>>
>>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
>>Seems only fair really..............
>
> Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> Frightening!
>
> I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvignet_is_discriminerend
>
> "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de
> actie
> Boycot de Belgen.
>
> 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> struiken
> hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> prijzen voor
> Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar
> het
> zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "
Would you like to enlighten those of us who can't read it?
thanks
tim
Jan 13th 2007 | 7:05 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:38:38 +0100, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett)
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>
>If they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>
>If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>bargain.
Reminds me of a tour I did years ago.
Dutch coach and driver Frankfurt Flughafen - Heidelberg - Freiburg -
Luzern - Paris - Calais. Great guy: knowledgeable, funny, great with
the customers....was really sad to say farewell at Calais. Took the
ferry across to Dover as foot passengers..English coach to London for
a couple of days and group returned to the USA via LHR.
Phoned the Dutch driver at home as soon as I arrived in London, just
to see that he'd got home OK. "Yes", he said, "I'm back safely."
"How did you get on driving back through Belgium?"
"Oh, no problem at all - I just did what the locals do...closed my
eyes for three hours." :-)
Keith, Bristol, UK
wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
>
>If they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up to
>civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>
>If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even better
>bargain.
Reminds me of a tour I did years ago.
Dutch coach and driver Frankfurt Flughafen - Heidelberg - Freiburg -
Luzern - Paris - Calais. Great guy: knowledgeable, funny, great with
the customers....was really sad to say farewell at Calais. Took the
ferry across to Dover as foot passengers..English coach to London for
a couple of days and group returned to the USA via LHR.
Phoned the Dutch driver at home as soon as I arrived in London, just
to see that he'd got home OK. "Yes", he said, "I'm back safely."
"How did you get on driving back through Belgium?"
"Oh, no problem at all - I just did what the locals do...closed my
eyes for three hours." :-)
Keith, Bristol, UK
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:49 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Jan 13, 8:32 pm, "tim....." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:6p8iq2lkihotscts9uh9cne0v5ou0u6lvo@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> >>> Martin
>
> >>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
> >>Seems only fair really..............
>
> > Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> > Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> > Frightening!
>
> > I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> >http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvig...
>
> > "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de
> > actie
> > Boycot de Belgen.
>
> > 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> > wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> > struiken
> > hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> > Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> > 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> > prijzen voor
> > Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> > Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> > 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar
> > het
> > zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "Would you like to enlighten those of us who can't read it?
>
> thanks
>
> tim
1) diverting via Germany will save money as you need to drive 75kph to
see the badly placed signs
2) discrimination, I've got my own business and I'll have to charge my
Belgian clients more.
3) thank **** no more ****ing caravans travelling south (some poetic
license)
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:6p8iq2lkihotscts9uh9cne0v5ou0u6lvo@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> >>> Martin
>
> >>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
> >>Seems only fair really..............
>
> > Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> > Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> > Frightening!
>
> > I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> >http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvig...
>
> > "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon de
> > actie
> > Boycot de Belgen.
>
> > 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> > wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> > struiken
> > hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> > Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> > 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> > prijzen voor
> > Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> > Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> > 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die naar
> > het
> > zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "Would you like to enlighten those of us who can't read it?
>
> thanks
>
> tim
1) diverting via Germany will save money as you need to drive 75kph to
see the badly placed signs
2) discrimination, I've got my own business and I'll have to charge my
Belgian clients more.
3) thank **** no more ****ing caravans travelling south (some poetic
license)
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:50 am
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
> 'customers' to Germany.
Because ...
B;
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> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
> 'customers' to Germany.
Because ...
B;
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Jan 13th 2007 | 9:00 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"J. Walker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 8:32 pm, "tim....." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> messagenews:6p8iq2lkihotscts9uh9cne0v5ou0u6lvo@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> >>> Martin
>
> >>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
> >>Seems only fair really..............
>
> > Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> > Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> > Frightening!
>
> > I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> >http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvig...
>
> > "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon
> > de
> > actie
> > Boycot de Belgen.
>
> > 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> > wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> > struiken
> > hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> > Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> > 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> > prijzen voor
> > Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> > Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> > 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die
> > naar
> > het
> > zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "Would you like to enlighten
> > those of us who can't read it?
>
> thanks
>
> tim
1) diverting via Germany will save money as you need to drive 75kph to
see the badly placed signs
2) discrimination, I've got my own business and I'll have to charge my
Belgian clients more.
3) thank **** no more ****ing caravans travelling south (some poetic
license)
Thanks
news:[email protected] oups.com...
On Jan 13, 8:32 pm, "tim....." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> messagenews:6p8iq2lkihotscts9uh9cne0v5ou0u6lvo@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:39 +0100, "JennyC" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> >>> I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.
> >>> Martin
>
> >>I expect ALL European countries will follow suit before too long.
> >>Seems only fair really..............
>
> > Hi Jenny, welcome!
>
> > Have you seen the Dutch proposals for charging cars using motorways?
> > Frightening!
>
> > I looked at the comments in the Volkskrant on the Begina charges
> >http://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/article386952.ece/Belgisch_wegenvig...
>
> > "Donkerfort uit Lelystad op de website van De Telegraaf. De krant begon
> > de
> > actie
> > Boycot de Belgen.
>
> > 'Omrijden via Duitsland verdien je zo terug, want als je de wazige
> > wegbewijzering moet volgen, die zonder verlichting achter bomen en
> > struiken
> > hangt, rij je snel meer dan 75 kilometer verkeerd.'
>
> > Op dezelfde website Vlietstra uit Almere:
>
> > 'Pure discriminatie. Ik ben zelfstandig ondernemer en overweeg mijn
> > prijzen voor
> > Belgische klanten fors te verhogen. '
>
> > Sonia van der Elst uit Halle, België, op de site.
>
> > 'Eindelijk rust op onze wegen. Geen eindeloze rijen caravans meer die
> > naar
> > het
> > zuiden trekken en onze wegen belasten.' "Would you like to enlighten
> > those of us who can't read it?
>
> thanks
>
> tim
1) diverting via Germany will save money as you need to drive 75kph to
see the badly placed signs
2) discrimination, I've got my own business and I'll have to charge my
Belgian clients more.
3) thank **** no more ****ing caravans travelling south (some poetic
license)
Thanks
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:01 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Mister Bartlett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>> 'customers' to Germany.
>
> Because ...
It is an adjacent country.
Note that I meant (in the circumstances.....)
tim
news:1hrwkvr.9dne5812aoustN%[email protected]...
> tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>> 'customers' to Germany.
>
> Because ...
It is an adjacent country.
Note that I meant (in the circumstances.....)
tim
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:28 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:50:40 +0100, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>> 'customers' to Germany.
>
>Because ...
...it's the longest route between Breda and Antwerp?
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Martin
>tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>> 'customers' to Germany.
>
>Because ...
...it's the longest route between Breda and Antwerp?
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Martin
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:30 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:30 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>
>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>>>> disposed
>>>> of some too.
>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>>>> enquiries.
>>>
>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>
>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>
>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>
>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>'customers' to Germany.
Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll charges.
>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a charge.If
>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>
>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have quietly
>>>> disposed
>>>> of some too.
>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz visa
>>>> enquiries.
>>>
>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>
>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>
>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>
>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>'customers' to Germany.
Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
--
Martin
Jan 13th 2007 | 9:50 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:30 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....."
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected] m...
>>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll
>>>>>>> > charges.
>>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a
>>>>>>> > charge.If
>>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>>
>>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have
>>>>> quietly
>>>>> disposed
>>>>> of some too.
>>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz
>>>>> visa
>>>>> enquiries.
>>>>
>>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>>
>>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>>
>>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>>
>>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>>'customers' to Germany.
>
> Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
I know. That's why I said Germany, not Berlin.
It *was* and Aussie making this decision.
tim
> --
>
> Martin
>
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:30 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....."
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected] m...
>>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll
>>>>>>> > charges.
>>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a
>>>>>>> > charge.If
>>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>>
>>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have
>>>>> quietly
>>>>> disposed
>>>>> of some too.
>>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz
>>>>> visa
>>>>> enquiries.
>>>>
>>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>>
>>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>>
>>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>>
>>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>>'customers' to Germany.
>
> Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
I know. That's why I said Germany, not Berlin.
It *was* and Aussie making this decision.
tim
> --
>
> Martin
>
Jan 13th 2007 | 10:57 pm
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Re: Planned Belgian motorway tax
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:50:34 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:30 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....."
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected] om...
>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll
>>>>>>>> > charges.
>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a
>>>>>>>> > charge.If
>>>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have
>>>>>> quietly
>>>>>> disposed
>>>>>> of some too.
>>>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz
>>>>>> visa
>>>>>> enquiries.
>>>>>
>>>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>>>
>>>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>>>
>>>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>>>'customers' to Germany.
>>
>> Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
>
>I know. That's why I said Germany, not Berlin.
>
>It *was* an Aussie making this decision.
and it is not reasonable. :-)
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:31:30 -0000, "tim....." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:16:11 -0000, "tim....."
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected] om...
>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2007 08:47:49 -0800, "J. Walker" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Jan 13, 5:38 pm, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Euro 60 is insignificant compared to the planned Dutch toll
>>>>>>>> > charges.
>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised the Belgians have taken so long to impose a
>>>>>>>> > charge.If
>>>>>>>> > they use it to bring the road surface and facilities in Belgium up
>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>> civilised standards it will be money well spent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they use it to teach Belgians how to drive it will be an even
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>> bargain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they couldn't balance the budget this year (they to sell off lots of
>>>>>>>buildings (including their embassy in Japan))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Embassies are an expensive waste of money. Other countries have
>>>>>> quietly
>>>>>> disposed
>>>>>> of some too.
>>>>>> I wasn't expecting to find that Berlin was the nearest place for Oz
>>>>>> visa
>>>>>> enquiries.
>>>>>
>>>>>Surely London is nearer?
>>>>
>>>> I was quoting the answering machine.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the Oz embassy in London has gone too? :-)
>>>
>>>No. But it does seem reasonable to direct dutch
>>>'customers' to Germany.
>>
>> Berlin is 600-700 km away from Den Haag.
>
>I know. That's why I said Germany, not Berlin.
>
>It *was* an Aussie making this decision.
and it is not reasonable. :-)
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Martin
