On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:40:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>>Can software help stop you getting a cold?
>>
>>can an orange read a book?
>
>can books catch cold?

may cans book a doctor to cure it?
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Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :

>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:40:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>>Can software help stop you getting a cold?
>>>
>>>can an orange read a book?
>>
>>can books catch cold?
>
>may cans book a doctor to cure it?

only with the right software installed.
--
Tim C.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:40:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:10:38 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Christ, analogies really can be the most ridiculous things!
>>>>
>>>>so why should software be different from other things?
>>>
>>>Can software help stop you getting a cold?
>>
>>can an orange read a book?
>
>can books catch cold?

only those from Sevilla?
--

Martin

Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) :
> It
> >would be something akin to a book suddenly being removed from you if you
> >quoted it illegally.
>
> do you not think that book publishers would remove the book from your
> shelves if it were physically possible and practical?

Quite probably, but it isn't, and so they can't. With a lot of software,
it's easy.

Of course, in my line of work, a lot of material by publishers (i.e.
music) is hired, not bought. You have to return it when you're finished
with it. This applies more to parts than scores though.

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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:18:27 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:40:15 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Can software help stop you getting a cold?
>>>>
>>>>can an orange read a book?
>>>
>>>can books catch cold?
>>
>>may cans book a doctor to cure it?
>
>only with the right software installed.

and decryption tools.
--

Martin

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:38:11 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) :
>> It
>> >would be something akin to a book suddenly being removed from you if you
>> >quoted it illegally.
>>
>> do you not think that book publishers would remove the book from your
>> shelves if it were physically possible and practical?
>
>Quite probably, but it isn't, and so they can't. With a lot of software,
>it's easy.
>
>Of course, in my line of work, a lot of material by publishers (i.e.
>music) is hired, not bought. You have to return it when you're finished
>with it. This applies more to parts than scores though.

Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.
--

Martin

Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

>Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.

Not all music, and not all legally, of course.
Many parts are edited to a certain extent depending on how many singers,
for example,are in the choir, length of performance (very few operas are
actually performed completely, without sections being cut), and
modifications/interpretations that the conductor may want made. So a
photocopied bit from the library may not be of much use.
--
Tim C.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:14:46 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.
>
>Not all music, and not all legally, of course.
>Many parts are edited to a certain extent depending on how many singers,
>for example,are in the choir, length of performance (very few operas are
>actually performed completely, without sections being cut), and
>modifications/interpretations that the conductor may want made. So a
>photocopied bit from the library may not be of much use.

OTOH 20 copies and one original is cheaper than 21 originals.
--

Martin

Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:14:46 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>
>>>Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.
>>
>>Not all music, and not all legally, of course.
>>Many parts are edited to a certain extent depending on how many singers,
>>for example,are in the choir, length of performance (very few operas are
>>actually performed completely, without sections being cut), and
>>modifications/interpretations that the conductor may want made. So a
>>photocopied bit from the library may not be of much use.
>
>OTOH 20 copies and one original is cheaper than 21 originals.

But possibly illegal.
--
Tim C.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:56:08 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:14:46 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>>
>>>>Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.
>>>
>>>Not all music, and not all legally, of course.
>>>Many parts are edited to a certain extent depending on how many singers,
>>>for example,are in the choir, length of performance (very few operas are
>>>actually performed completely, without sections being cut), and
>>>modifications/interpretations that the conductor may want made. So a
>>>photocopied bit from the library may not be of much use.
>>
>>OTOH 20 copies and one original is cheaper than 21 originals.
>
>But possibly illegal.

Possibly? Of course it is 'kin illegal. Downloading a choir and orchestra
performing the music and playing that whilst the choir & orchestra mime is also
illegal.
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:38:11 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) :
> >> It
> >> >would be something akin to a book suddenly being removed from you if you
> >> >quoted it illegally.
> >>
> >> do you not think that book publishers would remove the book from your
> >> shelves if it were physically possible and practical?
> >
> >Quite probably, but it isn't, and so they can't. With a lot of software,
> >it's easy.
> >
> >Of course, in my line of work, a lot of material by publishers (i.e.
> >music) is hired, not bought. You have to return it when you're finished
> >with it. This applies more to parts than scores though.
>
> Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.

Indeed, and some choirs have been fined a lot for doing so. As an aside,
choral music is generally for sale, not hire. With orchestral music,
sure, they could photocopy the parts, but at least in Europe (not
including Russia and some others) they'd be quickly found out. Which is
why it's rare that people do it.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:14:46 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
> >
> >>Some choirs have discovered that music can be photocopied.
> >
> >Not all music, and not all legally, of course.
> >Many parts are edited to a certain extent depending on how many singers,
> >for example,are in the choir, length of performance (very few operas are
> >actually performed completely, without sections being cut), and
> >modifications/interpretations that the conductor may want made. So a
> >photocopied bit from the library may not be of much use.
>
> OTOH 20 copies and one original is cheaper than 21 originals.

When they're fined, they realise it was a false economy. I work with a
lot of amateur choirs and orchestras- photocopying copyright work is
rare IME. With professional organisations, rarer still. With rare hard
to find works, or out of print works, it's more common.

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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> > chancellor (*)) wrote:
> []
> > >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
> > >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
> >
> > Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista
> > will do for you.
>
> My Mac can run Vista. What would I want it do for me that I can't
> already do?

It can't delete itself?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm

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In article <1hsvs4s.h8wiumpwggpdN%[email protected]>, David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> > > chancellor (*)) wrote:
> > []
> > > >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
> > > >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
> > >
> > > Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista
> > > will do for you.
> >
> > My Mac can run Vista. What would I want it do for me that I can't
> > already do?
>
> It can't delete itself?

Speech recognition, a staple of the Mac OS for decades, will finally
grow up with the new OS this spring... "Alex" :

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/accessibility.html

jay
Fri Feb 02, 2007
mailto:[email protected]



>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:53:15 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Let is be knownst that on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:03:33 +0000,
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
>
>>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>>> > chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>> []
>>> > >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>>> > >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>>> >
>>> > Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista
>>> > will do for you.
>>>
>>> My Mac can run Vista. What would I want it do for me that I can't
>>> already do?
>>
>>It can't delete itself?
>>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm
>
>That is actually a sound file that can do it, and, boy, it's a pretty
>far fetched scenario if you ask me.
>
>Would be pretty funny if it happened to someone else's computer
>though!

We would really laugh if it happened to a Mac.
--

Martin