"London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
Apr 28th 2007 | 9:17 am
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Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:21:15 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Well they forecast a heavy mist this morning.
>>
>>Instead it was warm and sunny.
>>
>>I imagine all the landladies are spitting feathers.
>>
>>The last time they cocked the weather forecast up to this extent the
>>council
>>actually accused the BBC of being in concert with Blackpool council
>>because
>>the BBC had a big event there that weekend...
>
> My daughter is somewhere near Northallerton, she said she has had an
> overcast
> day, whilst in York where my son is, it has been a lovely sunny day.
And in Whitby they've been hip deep in Goths all weekend and so have been so
busy making money they haven't actually bothered to look at the weather...
--
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:21:15 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Well they forecast a heavy mist this morning.
>>
>>Instead it was warm and sunny.
>>
>>I imagine all the landladies are spitting feathers.
>>
>>The last time they cocked the weather forecast up to this extent the
>>council
>>actually accused the BBC of being in concert with Blackpool council
>>because
>>the BBC had a big event there that weekend...
>
> My daughter is somewhere near Northallerton, she said she has had an
> overcast
> day, whilst in York where my son is, it has been a lovely sunny day.
And in Whitby they've been hip deep in Goths all weekend and so have been so
busy making money they haven't actually bothered to look at the weather...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Apr 28th 2007 | 9:31 am
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Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:17:05 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:21:15 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Well they forecast a heavy mist this morning.
>>>
>>>Instead it was warm and sunny.
>>>
>>>I imagine all the landladies are spitting feathers.
>>>
>>>The last time they cocked the weather forecast up to this extent the
>>>council
>>>actually accused the BBC of being in concert with Blackpool council
>>>because
>>>the BBC had a big event there that weekend...
>>
>> My daughter is somewhere near Northallerton, she said she has had an
>> overcast
>> day, whilst in York where my son is, it has been a lovely sunny day.
>
>And in Whitby they've been hip deep in Goths all weekend and so have been so
>busy making money they haven't actually bothered to look at the weather...
... sad bastards!
Do you read the Whitby Gazette? I find at least one funny article in every
issue.
http://www.whitbytoday.co.uk/news?articleid=2730879
"Officers get on bikes
By Staff Copy
Police Community Safety Officers are now using bicycles to make their rounds in
the town and the surrounding villages.
The new scheme is a permanent addition in Whitby and will also help improve
community relations and make the police presence more visible.
PCSO Dave Mainprize is in charge of the bikes and he thinks that it has been a
success already in only a short space of time.
“It has allowed us to get to incidents a lot quicker. For example the other
night we got a report of anti-social behaviour and because we had the bikes we
could cover a larger area and we found those responsible,” he said.
“I cover a large area in the rural area,” said PCSO Pete Lewis, “and now with
the bike I can get round them all on my beat a lot faster.”
Because of the increase if range and shortening of travel time it means that the
PCSO’s can spend more time talking and listening to members of the community.
Whitby Police Sergeant Richard Parsons said that the bikes will be a big benefit
to community policing in the town as well helping to target hotspots of
anti-social behaviour."
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:21:15 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>
>>>Well they forecast a heavy mist this morning.
>>>
>>>Instead it was warm and sunny.
>>>
>>>I imagine all the landladies are spitting feathers.
>>>
>>>The last time they cocked the weather forecast up to this extent the
>>>council
>>>actually accused the BBC of being in concert with Blackpool council
>>>because
>>>the BBC had a big event there that weekend...
>>
>> My daughter is somewhere near Northallerton, she said she has had an
>> overcast
>> day, whilst in York where my son is, it has been a lovely sunny day.
>
>And in Whitby they've been hip deep in Goths all weekend and so have been so
>busy making money they haven't actually bothered to look at the weather...
... sad bastards!
Do you read the Whitby Gazette? I find at least one funny article in every
issue.
http://www.whitbytoday.co.uk/news?articleid=2730879
"Officers get on bikes
By Staff Copy
Police Community Safety Officers are now using bicycles to make their rounds in
the town and the surrounding villages.
The new scheme is a permanent addition in Whitby and will also help improve
community relations and make the police presence more visible.
PCSO Dave Mainprize is in charge of the bikes and he thinks that it has been a
success already in only a short space of time.
“It has allowed us to get to incidents a lot quicker. For example the other
night we got a report of anti-social behaviour and because we had the bikes we
could cover a larger area and we found those responsible,” he said.
“I cover a large area in the rural area,” said PCSO Pete Lewis, “and now with
the bike I can get round them all on my beat a lot faster.”
Because of the increase if range and shortening of travel time it means that the
PCSO’s can spend more time talking and listening to members of the community.
Whitby Police Sergeant Richard Parsons said that the bikes will be a big benefit
to community policing in the town as well helping to target hotspots of
anti-social behaviour."
--
Martin
May 1st 2007 | 7:44 pm
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Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
F
>>>We used to make our own from "a ginger beer" plant when I was kid.
>>>
>>>Maybe something to ask about on urg?
>>
>>We did too. Nobody here has a ginger beer plant, of course.
>
>AFAIR it starts life in a dry form.
>
>The BBC knows how to do it
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A827426
>
>"The Recipe
>
>Producing your own ginger beer is very easy. It is produced in a biological
>process in much the same way as yoghurt. You will first need to create what is
>called a ginger beer plant2. It will be ten days before the first batch will be
>ready.
>
>Ingredients
>
> * 25g Dry yeast (50g of fresh)
> * 2tbsp ground ginger
> * 2tbsp caster sugar
> * ½pt (300ml) water
>... "
>
>Don't try this at home, Magda!
You may not want to rely too heavily on the H2G2.
The BBC'S been dimming (sic) down too much.
http://www.plantcultures.org/plants/...eer_plant.html
"His [Harry Marshall Ward in 1892] analyses revealed that it was a type of
organism new to science. He described it as a 'composite body', consisting
of many microorganisms living together. Not all of these microbes helped in
making the beer, but two organisms were present in every sample, and seemed
vital to the production of ginger beer. One was a fungus he named
Saccharomyces pyriformis. The other was a bacterium, which he named
Bacterium vermiforme, and is now called Brevibacterium vermiforme.
The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
isn't made by fermentation."
I must admit that my kids only get the modern, industrially paralysed
soft-drink version.
--
Tim C.
>>>We used to make our own from "a ginger beer" plant when I was kid.
>>>
>>>Maybe something to ask about on urg?
>>
>>We did too. Nobody here has a ginger beer plant, of course.
>
>AFAIR it starts life in a dry form.
>
>The BBC knows how to do it
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A827426
>
>"The Recipe
>
>Producing your own ginger beer is very easy. It is produced in a biological
>process in much the same way as yoghurt. You will first need to create what is
>called a ginger beer plant2. It will be ten days before the first batch will be
>ready.
>
>Ingredients
>
> * 25g Dry yeast (50g of fresh)
> * 2tbsp ground ginger
> * 2tbsp caster sugar
> * ½pt (300ml) water
>... "
>
>Don't try this at home, Magda!
You may not want to rely too heavily on the H2G2.
The BBC'S been dimming (sic) down too much.
http://www.plantcultures.org/plants/...eer_plant.html
"His [Harry Marshall Ward in 1892] analyses revealed that it was a type of
organism new to science. He described it as a 'composite body', consisting
of many microorganisms living together. Not all of these microbes helped in
making the beer, but two organisms were present in every sample, and seemed
vital to the production of ginger beer. One was a fungus he named
Saccharomyces pyriformis. The other was a bacterium, which he named
Bacterium vermiforme, and is now called Brevibacterium vermiforme.
The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
isn't made by fermentation."
I must admit that my kids only get the modern, industrially paralysed
soft-drink version.
--
Tim C.
May 1st 2007 | 7:48 pm
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Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>isn't made by fermentation."
there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
--
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wrote:
>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>isn't made by fermentation."
there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
May 1st 2007 | 7:54 pm
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Following up to "William Black" <[email protected]> :
>I didn't think you could inherit that.
>
>You know, 'inheritance of learned characteristics' and all that.
It'S not impossible, I suppose.
Look up epigenetic inheritance and methylation.
"Certain genes are marked with chemical tags via a process called
methylation while they are still in a sperm or egg, meaning that only the
maternal or paternal copy is active in the offspring. As a result, certain
traits are inherited exclusively from one side of the family."
--
Tim C.
>I didn't think you could inherit that.
>
>You know, 'inheritance of learned characteristics' and all that.
It'S not impossible, I suppose.
Look up epigenetic inheritance and methylation.
"Certain genes are marked with chemical tags via a process called
methylation while they are still in a sperm or egg, meaning that only the
maternal or paternal copy is active in the offspring. As a result, certain
traits are inherited exclusively from one side of the family."
--
Tim C.
May 1st 2007 | 8:31 pm
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>isn't made by fermentation."
>
> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
http://www.fentimans.com/
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>isn't made by fermentation."
>
> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
http://www.fentimans.com/
May 1st 2007 | 8:46 pm
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On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>isn't made by fermentation."
Only the name is the same.
>>
>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
There was no market for it, we all made our own. Hic!
--
Martin
>
>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>isn't made by fermentation."
Only the name is the same.
>>
>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
There was no market for it, we all made our own. Hic!
--
Martin
May 1st 2007 | 8:50 pm
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On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
thats it! 11% sounds stronger than anything ive come across.
--
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>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
thats it! 11% sounds stronger than anything ive come across.
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
May 1st 2007 | 8:52 pm
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On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>
>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>
>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>http://www.fentimans.com/
It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
DIY
www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
--
Martin
>
>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>
>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>
>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>
>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>http://www.fentimans.com/
It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
DIY
www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
--
Martin
May 1st 2007 | 9:30 pm
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Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>>
>>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>>
>>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>>
>>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>>http://www.fentimans.com/
>
>It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
>
>http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
This one is just brewers' yeast and citric acid supplied in a tub with some
ginger powder. I know because it says so on the packet you get when you get
it.
>http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
That's the one I mentioned earlier. It looks like they've updated thier
"shop" as I had serious trouble trying to get anything off them before (but
maybe I shouldn't have ordered the anthrax spores at the same time ;-) )
>http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
A similar creature - I've heard using kefir grains produces quite good
results, but I haven't tried it.
>DIY
>www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
Also uses just yeast.
>http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
ditto.
--
Tim C.
>On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>>
>>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>>
>>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>>
>>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>>http://www.fentimans.com/
>
>It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
>
>http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
This one is just brewers' yeast and citric acid supplied in a tub with some
ginger powder. I know because it says so on the packet you get when you get
it.
>http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
That's the one I mentioned earlier. It looks like they've updated thier
"shop" as I had serious trouble trying to get anything off them before (but
maybe I shouldn't have ordered the anthrax spores at the same time ;-) )
>http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
A similar creature - I've heard using kefir grains produces quite good
results, but I haven't tried it.
>DIY
>www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
Also uses just yeast.
>http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
ditto.
--
Tim C.
May 1st 2007 | 9:37 pm
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On 25 abr, 13:56, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
> >I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
> >i.e. la cuenta!
>
> interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.
>
They're all in Dublin now!
J.
>
> >Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
> >I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
> >i.e. la cuenta!
>
> interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.
>
They're all in Dublin now!
J.
May 1st 2007 | 9:45 pm
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 11:30:05 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>>>
>>>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>>>
>>>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>>>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>>>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>>>
>>>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>>>http://www.fentimans.com/
>>
>>It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
>>
>>http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
>
>This one is just brewers' yeast and citric acid supplied in a tub with some
>ginger powder. I know because it says so on the packet you get when you get
>it.
>
>
>>http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
>
>That's the one I mentioned earlier.
I realised.
>It looks like they've updated thier
>"shop" as I had serious trouble trying to get anything off them before (but
>maybe I shouldn't have ordered the anthrax spores at the same time ;-) )
For your sambal beer?
>
>
>>http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
>A similar creature - I've heard using kefir grains produces quite good
>results, but I haven't tried it.
>
>
>>DIY
>>www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
>Also uses just yeast.
>
>>http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
>ditto.
I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
--
Martin
>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:41 +0100, "RAK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 09:44:01 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The popularity of the ginger beer plant died out. The commercial, canned
>>>>>ginger beer of today is very different. It doesn't contain alcohol and
>>>>>isn't made by fermentation."
>>>>
>>>> there is one small scale manufacturer (in bottles).
>>>
>>>Do you mean Fentimans, or is there something even more "authentic"?
>>>According to Wikipedia (some of) the traditional ginger beers contained
>>>alcohol, up to 11%, but I have not seen any like that for sale.
>>>
>>>Fentimans also make some other good traditional drinks - lemonade, etc.
>>>http://www.fentimans.com/
>>
>>It doesn't take much effort with google to find suppliers of ginger beer plants
>>
>>http://www.hamstead-brewing-centre.co.uk/itm00986.htm
>
>This one is just brewers' yeast and citric acid supplied in a tub with some
>ginger powder. I know because it says so on the packet you get when you get
>it.
>
>
>>http://www.dsmz.de/strains/no002484.htm
>
>That's the one I mentioned earlier.
I realised.
>It looks like they've updated thier
>"shop" as I had serious trouble trying to get anything off them before (but
>maybe I shouldn't have ordered the anthrax spores at the same time ;-) )
For your sambal beer?
>
>
>>http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Mak...#Kefir-d-acqua
>A similar creature - I've heard using kefir grains produces quite good
>results, but I haven't tried it.
>
>
>>DIY
>>www.microbiologyonline.org.uk/forms/gbeer.pdf
>Also uses just yeast.
>
>>http://www.omicron.uk.com/g-beer.html
>ditto.
I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
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May 1st 2007 | 9:55 pm
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Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
>
>Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
>yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
I have. It's fine.
I'm pretty sure my mum made it with a pale-coloured slimy thing in a jar -
or maybe that was just my dad. It was a long time ago.
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>
>I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
>
>Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
>yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
I have. It's fine.
I'm pretty sure my mum made it with a pale-coloured slimy thing in a jar -
or maybe that was just my dad. It was a long time ago.
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May 1st 2007 | 10:01 pm
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 11:55:55 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>
>>I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
>>
>>Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
>>yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
>
>I have. It's fine.
>I'm pretty sure my mum made it with a pale-coloured slimy thing in a jar -
>or maybe that was just my dad.
I had a dad like that too :-)
> It was a long time ago.
"Alcohol damages your brain" Mixi
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>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>
>>I suspect that most ginger beer when I was a kid just used yeast.
>>
>>Have you any evidence to the contrary? Maybe you should try making it with just
>>yeast. Almost certainly better than anything sold as ginger beer in a bottle.
>
>I have. It's fine.
>I'm pretty sure my mum made it with a pale-coloured slimy thing in a jar -
>or maybe that was just my dad.
I had a dad like that too :-)
> It was a long time ago.
"Alcohol damages your brain" Mixi
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May 1st 2007 | 10:38 pm
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On 2 May 2007 02:37:00 -0700, Jordi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.
>>
>
>They're all in Dublin now!
makes sense.
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>> interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.
>>
>
>They're all in Dublin now!
makes sense.
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