How can there be so much traffic in this group?
Jun 11th 2003, 3:34 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
In article ,
"RTE" wrote:
> "poldy" wrote in message
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> > Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>
> I don't think so.
> We're off to France and Italy this year. But we live in Europe, does that
> count?
>
> RTE
>
>
No. ;-)
Supposedly, with the economy and the general displeasure of Americans
over the war, there's not as much eastward flights across the Atlantic.
"RTE" wrote:
> "poldy" wrote in message
> news
[email protected]...> > Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>
> I don't think so.
> We're off to France and Italy this year. But we live in Europe, does that
> count?
>
> RTE
>
>
No. ;-)
Supposedly, with the economy and the general displeasure of Americans
over the war, there's not as much eastward flights across the Atlantic.
Jun 11th 2003, 3:36 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
In article ,
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
>
Well if it's a boycott thing, it is silly.
But with the economy and the higher Euro, there are some reasons to
think twice.
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
>
Well if it's a boycott thing, it is silly.
But with the economy and the higher Euro, there are some reasons to
think twice.
Jun 11th 2003, 3:39 am
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"Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> "poldy" skrev i meddelandet
> news[email protected]...
> > Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> So you can't imagine there's travelling inside Europe ?
> As I can see from the ads in the daily paper travelling is as usual.
> L.P
>
>
Right, and I get emails from SNCF all the time, because I bought some
train tickets on their web site last year. I didn't know the French
Railroad arranged so many tours outside of France.
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> "poldy" skrev i meddelandet
> news
[email protected]...> > Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> So you can't imagine there's travelling inside Europe ?
> As I can see from the ads in the daily paper travelling is as usual.
> L.P
>
>
Right, and I get emails from SNCF all the time, because I bought some
train tickets on their web site last year. I didn't know the French
Railroad arranged so many tours outside of France.
Jun 11th 2003, 3:47 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote in message news:...
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
Literally, we got two WORDS. Not real explanations mind you, just
words. We went to Italy for 2 weeks. At least 2 other couples
delayed or cancelled and when asked we got the words "fear" and "concern".
Couldn't really get them to specify the focus of those two words.
I experienced nothing to justify either fear or concern.
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
Literally, we got two WORDS. Not real explanations mind you, just
words. We went to Italy for 2 weeks. At least 2 other couples
delayed or cancelled and when asked we got the words "fear" and "concern".
Couldn't really get them to specify the focus of those two words.
I experienced nothing to justify either fear or concern.
Jun 11th 2003, 4:38 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:45:34 +0200, "John Stolz"
wrote:
>Mason Barge wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:08:37 GMT, poldy wrote:
>> >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>> That doesn't limit the amount of mindless Off-Topic US-bashing. Just
>witness
>> the responses to your post.
>> --
>> "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please
>bring me some coffee."
>> - Abraham Lincoln
>I counted the number of mindless off-topic US bashing responses, and there
>were, er, none.
>I think you just proved the bit about paranoid Americans
Two of the first three responses I read were what I would call mindless US
bashing. "the bit about paranoid Americans" will serve for #3.
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wrote:
>Mason Barge wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:08:37 GMT, poldy wrote:
>> >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>> That doesn't limit the amount of mindless Off-Topic US-bashing. Just
>witness
>> the responses to your post.
>> --
>> "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please
>bring me some coffee."
>> - Abraham Lincoln
>I counted the number of mindless off-topic US bashing responses, and there
>were, er, none.
>I think you just proved the bit about paranoid Americans
Two of the first three responses I read were what I would call mindless US
bashing. "the bit about paranoid Americans" will serve for #3.
--
"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln
Jun 11th 2003, 4:55 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
"poldy" skrev i meddelandet
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> In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
> > In article , poldy
> > writes
> > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
> > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing.
You've confused a lot. Internet may origin from America but it's
definitely complete international nowadays. And "this newsgroup" isn't
a pure American thing, just look around and you'll find people from almost
any country in Europe and many from other countries outside America.
I would estimate contributors here to be at least as many from outside US as
from US.
Doesn't matter so much as the topic is "travelling" and "Europe" , could be
to Europe but not necessarily.
L.P
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[email protected]...> In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
> > In article , poldy
> > writes
> > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
> > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing.
You've confused a lot. Internet may origin from America but it's
definitely complete international nowadays. And "this newsgroup" isn't
a pure American thing, just look around and you'll find people from almost
any country in Europe and many from other countries outside America.
I would estimate contributors here to be at least as many from outside US as
from US.
Doesn't matter so much as the topic is "travelling" and "Europe" , could be
to Europe but not necessarily.
L.P
Jun 11th 2003, 5:01 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
The Reid wrote:
> >But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
> >you not know that?
>
> I didnt.
don't feed the troll
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
> >But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
> >you not know that?
>
> I didnt.
don't feed the troll
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Jun 11th 2003, 5:07 am
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Following up to poldy
>> There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
>> places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>you not know that?
I didnt.
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Mike Reid
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>> There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
>> places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>you not know that?
I didnt.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Hillwalking, landscape prints, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
Jun 11th 2003, 5:07 am
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Following up to Harvey Van Sickle
>AFAIK, the absolute minimum for even the most full-time jobs in the UK
>is 4 weeks of discretional leave. Given that that figure is, I think,
>already lower than most in the EU, I frankly can't see it going lower
>than that.
lets hope so. In my wifes area new staff get less leave than
established, but the leave was *very* generous.
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Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Hillwalking, landscape prints, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
>AFAIK, the absolute minimum for even the most full-time jobs in the UK
>is 4 weeks of discretional leave. Given that that figure is, I think,
>already lower than most in the EU, I frankly can't see it going lower
>than that.
lets hope so. In my wifes area new staff get less leave than
established, but the leave was *very* generous.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Hillwalking, landscape prints, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)
Jun 11th 2003, 5:09 am
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[email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>The Reid wrote:
>> >But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>> >you not know that?
>>
>> I didnt.
>don't feed the troll
A bit harsh, calling him a troll. It was a gentle leg-pull.
PB
>The Reid wrote:
>> >But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>> >you not know that?
>>
>> I didnt.
>don't feed the troll
A bit harsh, calling him a troll. It was a gentle leg-pull.
PB
Jun 11th 2003, 5:30 am
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:09:06 GMT, Padraig Breathnach wrote
> [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>> The Reid wrote:
>>>> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American
>>>> thing. Did you not know that?
>>> I didnt.
>> don't feed the troll
> A bit harsh, calling him a troll. It was a gentle leg-pull.
I agree with that -- he posted a number of good-natured comments that
were, I thought, pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek.
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Harvey
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> [email protected] (Luca Logi) wrote:
>> The Reid wrote:
>>>> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American
>>>> thing. Did you not know that?
>>> I didnt.
>> don't feed the troll
> A bit harsh, calling him a troll. It was a gentle leg-pull.
I agree with that -- he posted a number of good-natured comments that
were, I thought, pretty clearly tongue-in-cheek.
--
Cheers,
Harvey
For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.
Jun 11th 2003, 5:33 am
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Mark Hewitt wrote in message ...
>Indeed. And to stop companies putting pressure on employees to not take it,
>it is in fact illegal not to take this holiday time! The company can be
>fined.
Please cite a source for this info - otherwise I'm going to say "tosh"! The
Regs give an entitlement to leave, and a firm could be fined if they subject
the employee to a detriment because s/he asserts this right. Nor can the
employer bribe the employee not to take leave by giving a payment in lieu.
But there is nothing in the Regs to force the employee to take the time off.
Of course they'd be pretty daft not to........
--
kathie
>Indeed. And to stop companies putting pressure on employees to not take it,
>it is in fact illegal not to take this holiday time! The company can be
>fined.
Please cite a source for this info - otherwise I'm going to say "tosh"! The
Regs give an entitlement to leave, and a firm could be fined if they subject
the employee to a detriment because s/he asserts this right. Nor can the
employer bribe the employee not to take leave by giving a payment in lieu.
But there is nothing in the Regs to force the employee to take the time off.
Of course they'd be pretty daft not to........
--
kathie
Jun 11th 2003, 6:06 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:31:25 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, poldy arranged
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article ,
... Marie Lewis wrote:
...
... > In article , poldy
... > writes
... > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
... > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
... > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
...
... But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
... you not know that?
You are hallucinating. Call the doctor right now and tell him that your temperature is
going up at an alarming speed.
some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article ,
... Marie Lewis wrote:
...
... > In article , poldy
... > writes
... > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
... > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
... > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
...
... But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
... you not know that?
You are hallucinating. Call the doctor right now and tell him that your temperature is
going up at an alarming speed.
Jun 11th 2003, 6:50 am
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[email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote in message news:...
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
>
> miguel
because they are blind/brainwashed flag wavers.
they think i should just travel within 'our "glorious" usa' usa usa
usa usa usa.
while this country is very beautiful, it lacks culture. and being
that my heritage is of european decent, *I* know why i want to travel
to europe - it is a rich, colorful region full of culture and beauty
and intelligence.
> csmytheee wrote:
> > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
> >> poldy wrote:
> >>> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> >>
> >> This group isn't limited to paranoid Americans.
> >
> > haha, that was great. i'm american, and i'm going to europe for two
> > weeks in september, and a lot of people that i've told, have been
> > asking me "why?"
> > they're idiots.
>
> Out of curiosity, what reasons do they give for thinking it's a strange
> and/or bad idea to visit Europe?
>
> miguel
because they are blind/brainwashed flag wavers.
they think i should just travel within 'our "glorious" usa' usa usa
usa usa usa.
while this country is very beautiful, it lacks culture. and being
that my heritage is of european decent, *I* know why i want to travel
to europe - it is a rich, colorful region full of culture and beauty
and intelligence.
Jun 11th 2003, 7:22 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
"Mark Hewitt" schreef in
bericht news:[email protected]...
> "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The Reid writes:
> >
> > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> >
> > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
> > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
> > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> eeek!
> I get six weeks ;-)
Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
Sjoerd
bericht news:[email protected]...
> "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The Reid writes:
> >
> > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> >
> > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
> > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
> > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> eeek!
> I get six weeks ;-)
Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
Sjoerd
