how are Americans viewed in France?
Oct 25th 2002 | 10:08 am
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Re: how are Americans viewed in France?
Le Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:51:29 GMT, Tim Vanhoof a écrit :
>> I hardly note any French people on newsgroups, period. They are twenty
>> years behind the times with respect to cyberspace, and most of them are
>> probably still playing around on the Minitel rose. (No, I'm not joking.)
> Maybe they avoid the newsgroups where you hang out. An enviable talent.
*snigger*
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>> I hardly note any French people on newsgroups, period. They are twenty
>> years behind the times with respect to cyberspace, and most of them are
>> probably still playing around on the Minitel rose. (No, I'm not joking.)
> Maybe they avoid the newsgroups where you hang out. An enviable talent.
*snigger*
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Oct 25th 2002 | 2:47 pm
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Re: how are Americans viewed in France?
In article ,
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> The world may be shrinking economically, but not all
> of us think that globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even fewer
> of us want to see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most
> powerful speaker, is also its richest.
Who is this most powerful speaker that is also its richest???
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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> The world may be shrinking economically, but not all
> of us think that globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even fewer
> of us want to see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most
> powerful speaker, is also its richest.
Who is this most powerful speaker that is also its richest???
--
Nancy Kay
remove go and gone.to.
"Patience is a virtue"
Oct 26th 2002 | 7:08 am
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:04:51 +0200, "Mxsmanic" wrote:
>Why not just cultivate greater patience?
Because morons are not worth the effort.
Obviously.
>Why not just cultivate greater patience?
Because morons are not worth the effort.
Obviously.
Oct 26th 2002 | 7:13 am
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On 25 Oct 2002 08:27:01 -0700, [email protected] (David) wrote:
>I don't really follow this discussion. Macho is pretty useful if you're
>conducting guerilla war or sending your out your Special Forces.
Exactly. They are very good as cannon fodder. Let's go on using them as such.
>I don't really follow this discussion. Macho is pretty useful if you're
>conducting guerilla war or sending your out your Special Forces.
Exactly. They are very good as cannon fodder. Let's go on using them as such.
Oct 26th 2002 | 9:35 am
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"David" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Ever watched a group of German males on holiday?
Not all boorishness or arrogance is machismo.
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> Ever watched a group of German males on holiday?
Not all boorishness or arrogance is machismo.
Oct 26th 2002 | 9:36 am
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"Tim Vanhoof" a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Maybe they avoid the newsgroups where
> you hang out.
That doesn't leave much. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they spent
most of their time in alt.binaries.*, if their use of the Minitel is any
indication.
1fkl2sh.1ly285k1td68e8N%[email protected]...
> Maybe they avoid the newsgroups where
> you hang out.
That doesn't leave much. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they spent
most of their time in alt.binaries.*, if their use of the Minitel is any
indication.
Oct 26th 2002 | 11:16 am
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Re: how are Americans viewed in France?
Nancy Kay wrote in message
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> In article ,
> Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> > The world may be shrinking economically, but not all
> > of us think that globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even
fewer
> > of us want to see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most
> > powerful speaker, is also its richest.
> Who is this most powerful speaker that is also its richest???
I believe Desmond meant English speakers. You are very limited in the world
today unless you speak good English. And very few wealthy people can't speak
English!
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> In article ,
> Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> > The world may be shrinking economically, but not all
> > of us think that globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even
fewer
> > of us want to see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most
> > powerful speaker, is also its richest.
> Who is this most powerful speaker that is also its richest???
I believe Desmond meant English speakers. You are very limited in the world
today unless you speak good English. And very few wealthy people can't speak
English!
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DFM
Oct 29th 2002 | 4:50 pm
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Re: how are Americans viewed in France?
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> A friend informs me that a lot of courses in Dutch universities are now
> taught in English. I, even as a native English speaker, consider this an
> abomination, and a subjugation of Dutch culture to English (read
> 'American') culture.
They don't do it in order to smooth the mental transition to watching
E.R. in the student lounge after class.
They use English in some programs to increase the access to the best
textbooks and faculty, and to ensure that graduates are proficient in
discussing technical matters in the language they're most likely to use for
international commerce - crucial for trading nation. It's precisely because
of factors like this linguistic agility that the Netherlands has seen such
consistent economic success.
Outside of class, people are still speaking Dutch.
> I certainly hope and pray that France does not go down the same road. Not
> because of any airy-fairy 'anti-American' views, but because I believe
> that a people's identity is closely tied to its language, and to its
> culture.
If the culture has any value to its people, it can survive alongside another
language used as a tool. If not, then it's headed for the archives anyway.
> The world may be shrinking economically, but not all of us think that
> globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even fewer of us want to
> see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most powerful speaker,
> is also its richest.
If English (or any language of your choice) is spoken - or at least
available for use - everywhere, then that's a whole lot of economic friction
eliminated, thus resulting in a better life for all.
miguel
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> A friend informs me that a lot of courses in Dutch universities are now
> taught in English. I, even as a native English speaker, consider this an
> abomination, and a subjugation of Dutch culture to English (read
> 'American') culture.
They don't do it in order to smooth the mental transition to watching
E.R. in the student lounge after class.
They use English in some programs to increase the access to the best
textbooks and faculty, and to ensure that graduates are proficient in
discussing technical matters in the language they're most likely to use for
international commerce - crucial for trading nation. It's precisely because
of factors like this linguistic agility that the Netherlands has seen such
consistent economic success.
Outside of class, people are still speaking Dutch.
> I certainly hope and pray that France does not go down the same road. Not
> because of any airy-fairy 'anti-American' views, but because I believe
> that a people's identity is closely tied to its language, and to its
> culture.
If the culture has any value to its people, it can survive alongside another
language used as a tool. If not, then it's headed for the archives anyway.
> The world may be shrinking economically, but not all of us think that
> globalisation is a 'Good Thing', and I hope that even fewer of us want to
> see English imposed everywhere, simply because its most powerful speaker,
> is also its richest.
If English (or any language of your choice) is spoken - or at least
available for use - everywhere, then that's a whole lot of economic friction
eliminated, thus resulting in a better life for all.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world:
http://travel.u.nu
New mini photo-feature: Life in DC:
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