Help planning Germany-Austria trip
May 15th 2005, 3:31 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On 12 May 2005 09:21:23 -0700, "Sudipto" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>Hi,
>I need some tips for planning the overall trip
See http://nisus.home.mindspring.com/2002AT/index.html for some ideas.
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>Hi,
>I need some tips for planning the overall trip
See http://nisus.home.mindspring.com/2002AT/index.html for some ideas.
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May 18th 2005, 6:42 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On 2005-05-13, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the destination in the
> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a strange
> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there and
> yourself to the other transport mode.
Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
return desk to the train.
> That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the destination in the
> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a strange
> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there and
> yourself to the other transport mode.
Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
return desk to the train.
May 18th 2005, 10:27 am
#63
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
Due to some confusion with my air tickets, my overall trip got cut down
by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
below :-
1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
way.
4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
there.
6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
Questions I have :-
1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
south).
2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
Munich. Doable ?
5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
from Munich ?
6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
below :-
1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
way.
4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
there.
6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
Questions I have :-
1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
south).
2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
Munich. Doable ?
5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
from Munich ?
6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
May 18th 2005, 12:00 pm
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On 18 May 2005 15:27:36 -0700, Sudipto wrote:
> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
the boat back?
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
About 3 hours, so there is time for other things.
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
A couple of hours. Getting around the city can be a challenge - you might
save time by dropping off the car at the outskirts. Personally, I prefer
to drop off at airports, since they are easy to access and there are good
signs directing drivers there (but you have to watch out for hefty airport
taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
carraige or bus.
Sorry, those are the only items I can address.
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> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
the boat back?
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
About 3 hours, so there is time for other things.
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
A couple of hours. Getting around the city can be a challenge - you might
save time by dropping off the car at the outskirts. Personally, I prefer
to drop off at airports, since they are easy to access and there are good
signs directing drivers there (but you have to watch out for hefty airport
taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
carraige or bus.
Sorry, those are the only items I can address.
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May 18th 2005, 12:05 pm
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
BB <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 18 May 2005 15:27:36 -0700, Sudipto wrote:
>
> > 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> > the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> > south).
>
> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
> the boat back?
I don't know if the OP is up to cycling, but it's fun if you are, and
there are some good cycle paths with fairly flat terrain. We stayed in
Bacharach, hired bikes there and cycled down to Bingen. We took the
ferry up to St. Goar, then cycled back down to Bacharach.
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> On 18 May 2005 15:27:36 -0700, Sudipto wrote:
>
> > 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> > the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> > south).
>
> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
> the boat back?
I don't know if the OP is up to cycling, but it's fun if you are, and
there are some good cycle paths with fairly flat terrain. We stayed in
Bacharach, hired bikes there and cycled down to Bingen. We took the
ferry up to St. Goar, then cycled back down to Bacharach.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 18th 2005, 12:43 pm
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
Cycling is out as we have 2 small kids (5.5 & 6 months)
May 18th 2005, 12:45 pm
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Cycling is out, as we are travelling with a 5.5y old + a 6 months old.
May 18th 2005, 4:48 pm
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"Jesper Lauridsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2005-05-13, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the
>> destination in the
>> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a
>> strange
>> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there
>> and
>> yourself to the other transport mode.
> Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
> return desk to the train.
Can be. The station rental desk for Avis in Termini, Rome is not where you
return the car. Return is a couple of blocks away.
news:[email protected].. .
> On 2005-05-13, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the
>> destination in the
>> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a
>> strange
>> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there
>> and
>> yourself to the other transport mode.
> Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
> return desk to the train.
Can be. The station rental desk for Avis in Termini, Rome is not where you
return the car. Return is a couple of blocks away.
May 18th 2005, 5:41 pm
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Sudipto wrote:
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ?
130 km via B16/B12/A96, 2 hours for a tourist :-) But as a tourist, I
would shorten the way a bit and accept a slightly longer drive time by
stopping by at Wieskirche
(http://www.ddde.de/Germany/Bavaria/Wieskirche/).
> As per my plan on the 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and
> Hohenschwangau & then drive to Munich. Doable ?
Yes. As the regular horror trip for American guests, I used to pick
them up in Munich early in the morning, drove to Pflegersee near
Garmisch for breakfast, then Linderhof (guided tour) via Ettal, then
Füssen via Austria (guided tour at Neuschwanstein), then Wieskirche and
back to Munich to have dinner and a few beers at Weißes Brauhaus. This
is also doable, even if feel like after a fullfilling work day
afterwards, but anyway: All your prejudices about Bavaria will be
reinforced.
> How far is Salzburg from Munich ?
140 km/1:30 hrs. Styrian Spirit (http://www.styrianspirit.com) is
servicing SZGCDG daily, I don't know their rates, however.
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. [...] So does anyone know of particular discount airways there
> ?
MUCCDG is only serviced directly by AF and LH, sorry.
Jens
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ?
130 km via B16/B12/A96, 2 hours for a tourist :-) But as a tourist, I
would shorten the way a bit and accept a slightly longer drive time by
stopping by at Wieskirche
(http://www.ddde.de/Germany/Bavaria/Wieskirche/).
> As per my plan on the 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and
> Hohenschwangau & then drive to Munich. Doable ?
Yes. As the regular horror trip for American guests, I used to pick
them up in Munich early in the morning, drove to Pflegersee near
Garmisch for breakfast, then Linderhof (guided tour) via Ettal, then
Füssen via Austria (guided tour at Neuschwanstein), then Wieskirche and
back to Munich to have dinner and a few beers at Weißes Brauhaus. This
is also doable, even if feel like after a fullfilling work day
afterwards, but anyway: All your prejudices about Bavaria will be
reinforced.
> How far is Salzburg from Munich ?
140 km/1:30 hrs. Styrian Spirit (http://www.styrianspirit.com) is
servicing SZGCDG daily, I don't know their rates, however.
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. [...] So does anyone know of particular discount airways there
> ?
MUCCDG is only serviced directly by AF and LH, sorry.
Jens
May 19th 2005, 12:51 am
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Bill McKee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a
>>> strange
>>> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there
>>> and
>>> yourself to the other transport mode.
>> Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
>> return desk to the train.
> Can be. The station rental desk for Avis in Termini, Rome is not where you
> return the car. Return is a couple of blocks away.
Hmm. I don't remember Rome being part of this itinerary. . . . .
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>>> other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a
>>> strange
>>> city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there
>>> and
>>> yourself to the other transport mode.
>> Yes, it's very difficult and time consuming to get from the station rental
>> return desk to the train.
> Can be. The station rental desk for Avis in Termini, Rome is not where you
> return the car. Return is a couple of blocks away.
Hmm. I don't remember Rome being part of this itinerary. . . . .
--
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**********
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May 19th 2005, 12:51 am
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On 18 May 2005 15:27:36 -0700, "Sudipto" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Due to some confusion with my air tickets, my overall trip got cut down
>by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
>departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
>below :-
>1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
>2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
>3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
>way.
>4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
>5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
>there.
>6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
>7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
>8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
>Questions I have :-
>1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
>the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
>south).
>2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
>along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
>3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
>or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
>be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
>is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
>4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
>6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
>Munich. Doable ?
Easily
Do Schloss Linderhof too, it's on the "pretty" route to Munich.
What about the castle on Herenchiemesee?
>5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
>nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
>getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
>from Munich ?
in time it depends on the state of the traffic.
>6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
>Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
>today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
>a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
>up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
>1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
>Due to some confusion with my air tickets, my overall trip got cut down
>by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
>departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
>below :-
>1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
>2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
>3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
>way.
>4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
>5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
>there.
>6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
>7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
>8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
>Questions I have :-
>1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
>the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
>south).
>2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
>along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
>3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
>or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
>be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
>is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
>4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
>6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
>Munich. Doable ?
Easily
Do Schloss Linderhof too, it's on the "pretty" route to Munich.
What about the castle on Herenchiemesee?
>5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
>nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
>getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
>from Munich ?
in time it depends on the state of the traffic.
>6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
>Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
>today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
>a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
>up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
>1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
May 19th 2005, 12:53 am
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Sudipto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Due to some confusion with my air tickets, my overall trip got cut down
> by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
> departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
> below :-
I think this looks great and doable.
> 1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
> 2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
> 3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
> way.
Bingen is less than an hour. In Bingen, the interesting thing is Castle
Klopp. Check on opening hours, and get there when it opens for your best
option.
> 4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
> 5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
> there.
You might stop in Nordlingen also, if that makes sense. Make it an option.
Nordlingen is small.
> 6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
> 7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
> 8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
> Questions I have :-
> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
> 3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
> or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
> be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
> is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
> 5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
> nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
> getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
> from Munich ?
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
> today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
> a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
> up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
> 1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
--
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> Due to some confusion with my air tickets, my overall trip got cut down
> by a couple of days. So now I would have 7 full days in Germany + my
> departing city would be Paris. So I have modified the itenerary as
> below :-
I think this looks great and doable.
> 1st Day : Arrive in Bacharach by midday. Explore town of Bacharach.
> 2nd Day: Take the boat to St. Goar. See Burg Rheinfels. Take boat back
> 3rd Day: Drive to Rothenburg. Stay night there. Stop in Bingen on the
> way.
Bingen is less than an hour. In Bingen, the interesting thing is Castle
Klopp. Check on opening hours, and get there when it opens for your best
option.
> 4th Day: Explore Rothenburg. Do NightWatchmen tour. Stay night there.
> 5th Day: Drive to Fussen stopping at Dinkelsbuh on the way. Stay
> there.
You might stop in Nordlingen also, if that makes sense. Make it an option.
Nordlingen is small.
> 6th Day: See Ludwig's castle. Drive to Munich. Stay there.
> 7th Day: Explore Munich. Stay there.
> 8th Day: Take a short haul flight from Munich to Paris.
> Questions I have :-
> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
> 3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
> or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
> be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
> is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
> 5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
> nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
> getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
> from Munich ?
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
> today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
> a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
> up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
> 1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
--
Julie
**********
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May 19th 2005, 1:05 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
Sudipto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Questions I have :-
> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north, possibly
as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south, stopping in St.
Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of castles between St. Goar and
Boppard.
I agree with the person who suggest a train back to Bacharach. Make sure that
you're on the right side of the river, though.
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
It's longish, but maybe 4 or so hours with stops (Mapquest has it as 3 hours
45 minutes). You can stop a couple of times, easily.
> 3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
> or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
> be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
> is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
Yes you can drive up to it and it caters to scout troops and school groups
and such, and has some family rooms, so I'd say definitely decent from a
family point of view. Very clean, good breakfast included.
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
Yup. Munich is maybe two hours if you are driving. I'd hit Neuschwanstein
when it opens, as it gets incredibly crowded, with long sweaty waits, later
in the day. Actually get there before it opens.
> 5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
> nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
> getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
> from Munich ?
I don't know this one.
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
> today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
> a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
> up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
> 1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
Sorry Nope. The train will not be cheap, but the TGV is very comforatable.
I take it the possiblility of switching your itinerary, so you end near
FRankfurt is not an option?
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> Questions I have :-
> 1. Will doing a boat trip from Bacharach - St. Goar-Bacharach capture
> the essence of Rhine, or do I go further in either direction (north or
> south).
I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north, possibly
as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south, stopping in St.
Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of castles between St. Goar and
Boppard.
I agree with the person who suggest a train back to Bacharach. Make sure that
you're on the right side of the river, though.
> 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
It's longish, but maybe 4 or so hours with stops (Mapquest has it as 3 hours
45 minutes). You can stop a couple of times, easily.
> 3. Burg Stahlek in Bacharach seems up a hill. Can I drive right to it
> or do I need to park somewhat afar. The reason I ask is that we would
> be having 2 suitcases & I would not want to lug them a long way. Also
> is Burg Stahlek decent from a family point of view ?
Yes you can drive up to it and it caters to scout troops and school groups
and such, and has some family rooms, so I'd say definitely decent from a
family point of view. Very clean, good breakfast included.
> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ? As per my plan on the
> 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau & then drive to
> Munich. Doable ?
Yup. Munich is maybe two hours if you are driving. I'd hit Neuschwanstein
when it opens, as it gets incredibly crowded, with long sweaty waits, later
in the day. Actually get there before it opens.
> 5. I would have loved do Salzburg instead of Munich on the last 2
> nights (1 full day). But the constraints of dropping off the car &
> getting a discount flight seems to point to Munich. How far is Salzburg
> from Munich ?
I don't know this one.
> 6. Lastly has anyone flown on any discount airways from Munich to
> Paris. I checked at least 3-4 sites (GermanWings, FlyBe, Easy Jet etc)
> today, but none of them have a Munich-Paris service. Would hate to take
> a train which is 81/2 hours. However the only flights which are coming
> up are Air France or Lufthansa ( for one way for the family of 4 -->
> 1400 Euros). So does anyone know of particular discount airways there ?
Sorry Nope. The train will not be cheap, but the TGV is very comforatable.
I take it the possiblility of switching your itinerary, so you end near
FRankfurt is not an option?
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May 19th 2005, 1:07 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
BB <[email protected]> wrote:
> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
Go to Neuschwanstein first.
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> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
Go to Neuschwanstein first.
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May 19th 2005, 1:09 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sudipto wrote:
>> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ?
> 130 km via B16/B12/A96, 2 hours for a tourist :-) But as a tourist, I
> would shorten the way a bit and accept a slightly longer drive time by
> stopping by at Wieskirche
> (http://www.ddde.de/Germany/Bavaria/Wieskirche/).
Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church. And there are a bunch of farm
animals in the field nearby, and on the walk in to delight the kids.
>> As per my plan on the 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and
>> Hohenschwangau & then drive to Munich. Doable ?
> Yes. As the regular horror trip for American guests, I used to pick
> them up in Munich early in the morning, drove to Pflegersee near
> Garmisch for breakfast, then Linderhof (guided tour) via Ettal, then
> Füssen via Austria (guided tour at Neuschwanstein), then Wieskirche and
> back to Munich to have dinner and a few beers at Weißes Brauhaus. This
> is also doable, even if feel like after a fullfilling work day
> afterwards, but anyway: All your prejudices about Bavaria will be
> reinforced.
Fortunately, they will have been in Germany for four or five days by then.
> MUCCDG is only serviced directly by AF and LH, sorry.
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> Sudipto wrote:
>> 4. How long is the drive from Fussen to Munich ?
> 130 km via B16/B12/A96, 2 hours for a tourist :-) But as a tourist, I
> would shorten the way a bit and accept a slightly longer drive time by
> stopping by at Wieskirche
> (http://www.ddde.de/Germany/Bavaria/Wieskirche/).
Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church. And there are a bunch of farm
animals in the field nearby, and on the walk in to delight the kids.
>> As per my plan on the 6th day I plan to see Neuschwanstein and
>> Hohenschwangau & then drive to Munich. Doable ?
> Yes. As the regular horror trip for American guests, I used to pick
> them up in Munich early in the morning, drove to Pflegersee near
> Garmisch for breakfast, then Linderhof (guided tour) via Ettal, then
> Füssen via Austria (guided tour at Neuschwanstein), then Wieskirche and
> back to Munich to have dinner and a few beers at Weißes Brauhaus. This
> is also doable, even if feel like after a fullfilling work day
> afterwards, but anyway: All your prejudices about Bavaria will be
> reinforced.
Fortunately, they will have been in Germany for four or five days by then.
> MUCCDG is only serviced directly by AF and LH, sorry.
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