Help planning Germany-Austria trip
May 19th 2005, 2:46 am
#76
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
I think you can pack too much travel into a trip like this. You simply
can't see it all in one trip. Take your time and focus on fewer
destinations. Savor the spots, relax, enjoy.
> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
> the boat back?
I agree, plus you will absolutley take rolls of pictures on the river
cruise, be prepared.
> > 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> > along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
Rothenburg is totally about walking. You can see the sights without getting
behind the wheel at all. It goes without sayong, wear broken in and
comfortable shoes.
> . There's a lot
> of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
> Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
> carraige or bus.
Absolutely take the horse carriage! It's cheap and nice.
can't see it all in one trip. Take your time and focus on fewer
destinations. Savor the spots, relax, enjoy.
> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
> the boat back?
I agree, plus you will absolutley take rolls of pictures on the river
cruise, be prepared.
> > 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
> > along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
Rothenburg is totally about walking. You can see the sights without getting
behind the wheel at all. It goes without sayong, wear broken in and
comfortable shoes.
> . There's a lot
> of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
> Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
> carraige or bus.
Absolutely take the horse carriage! It's cheap and nice.
May 19th 2005, 2:55 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:46:58 GMT, "Texan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I think you can pack too much travel into a trip like this. You simply
>can't see it all in one trip. Take your time and focus on fewer
>destinations. Savor the spots, relax, enjoy.
>> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
>> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
>> the boat back?
>I agree, plus you will absolutley take rolls of pictures on the river
>cruise, be prepared.
>> > 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
>> > along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
>Rothenburg is totally about walking. You can see the sights without getting
>behind the wheel at all. It goes without sayong, wear broken in and
>comfortable shoes.
>> . There's a lot
>> of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
>> Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
>> carraige or bus.
>Absolutely take the horse carriage! It's cheap and nice.
The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
down.
>I think you can pack too much travel into a trip like this. You simply
>can't see it all in one trip. Take your time and focus on fewer
>destinations. Savor the spots, relax, enjoy.
>> I haven't done a boat trip, but it seems a bit redundant to do it twice.
>> The boat trip will be slow, after all. Maybe take the train one way and
>> the boat back?
>I agree, plus you will absolutley take rolls of pictures on the river
>cruise, be prepared.
>> > 2. How long is the drive between Bacharach & Rothenburg. Can I stop
>> > along the way for some time in Bingen or whatever maybe interesting.
>Rothenburg is totally about walking. You can see the sights without getting
>behind the wheel at all. It goes without sayong, wear broken in and
>comfortable shoes.
>> . There's a lot
>> of walking, so you may be very tired. The worst of it is the climb to
>> Neuschwanstein and back down - but you can avoid this by taking the horse
>> carraige or bus.
>Absolutely take the horse carriage! It's cheap and nice.
The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
down.
May 19th 2005, 3:13 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>
> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
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> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>
> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
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May 19th 2005, 3:16 am
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
stuff during the day.
> Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
> down.
Now THERE's a plan!
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> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
stuff during the day.
> Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
> down.
Now THERE's a plan!
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May 19th 2005, 3:22 am
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:05:51 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
> I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north,
> possibly as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south,
> stopping in St. Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of
> castles between St. Goar and Boppard.
I think you're right, many are further north. Here's a colorful map that
gives some indication of the castle locations:
http://www.castle-liebenstein.com/ge...river-castles/
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> I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north,
> possibly as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south,
> stopping in St. Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of
> castles between St. Goar and Boppard.
I think you're right, many are further north. Here's a colorful map that
gives some indication of the castle locations:
http://www.castle-liebenstein.com/ge...river-castles/
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May 19th 2005, 3:37 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:16:03 +0000 (UTC), BB
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>stuff during the day.
I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
choice.
>
>> Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
>> down.
>Now THERE's a plan!
We almost didn't make it past the first stop one very hot summer day.
There's nothing more refreshing than a German beer in this
environment
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>stuff during the day.
I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
choice.
>
>> Walk and stop for a beer on the way up. Stop for another on the way
>> down.
>Now THERE's a plan!
We almost didn't make it past the first stop one very hot summer day.
There's nothing more refreshing than a German beer in this
environment
May 19th 2005, 3:39 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:22:46 +0000 (UTC), BB
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:05:51 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north,
>> possibly as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south,
>> stopping in St. Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of
>> castles between St. Goar and Boppard.
>I think you're right, many are further north. Here's a colorful map that
>gives some indication of the castle locations:
>http://www.castle-liebenstein.com/ge...river-castles/
Schloss Stolzenfelz is easy to get to and visit.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:05:51 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> I'm trying to remember the trip. I think I'd go a tad further north,
>> possibly as far as Boppard (about an hour and a half, then come south,
>> stopping in St. Goar on the way back. I seem to remember a lot of
>> castles between St. Goar and Boppard.
>I think you're right, many are further north. Here's a colorful map that
>gives some indication of the castle locations:
>http://www.castle-liebenstein.com/ge...river-castles/
Schloss Stolzenfelz is easy to get to and visit.
May 19th 2005, 3:54 am
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BB <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>>
>> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
>> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
> They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
> sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
I think you can book them separately. If there is a combination ticket which
saves money, this may be true. It was not when I toured both last, but
that was in 1989
Julie
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> On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>>
>> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
>> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
> They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
> sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
I think you can book them separately. If there is a combination ticket which
saves money, this may be true. It was not when I toured both last, but
that was in 1989
Julie
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May 19th 2005, 3:58 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>>stuff during the day.
> I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
> In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
> choice.
I'd not. It's quite a bit of a drive and the OP has small children.
Hohenschwangau is charming, and different. Linderhof is great. She can
do it on the next trip. With kids and all this driving, it's too much.
IMHO, naturally.
Julie
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>>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>>stuff during the day.
> I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
> In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
> choice.
I'd not. It's quite a bit of a drive and the OP has small children.
Hohenschwangau is charming, and different. Linderhof is great. She can
do it on the next trip. With kids and all this driving, it's too much.
IMHO, naturally.
Julie
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May 19th 2005, 4:10 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:54:26 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm
<[email protected]> wrote:
>BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>>> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>>>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>>>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>>>
>>> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
>>> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
>> They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
>> sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
>I think you can book them separately. If there is a combination ticket which
>saves money, this may be true. It was not when I toured both last, but
>that was in 1989
We just walked up the hill and bought tickets in July 1996.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:
>>> BB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> taxes/fees). You'll want to get to the castles at 8-8:30, otherwise
>>>> there'll be a huge lag between the time you buy tickets and the time you
>>>> get to tour. If you buy early, you'll be done by about noon. There's a lot
>>>
>>> Note that Hohenschwangau is much easier to get into than Neuschwanstein.
>>> Go to Neuschwanstein first.
>> They give you scheduled tours when you buy the tickets, and I'm pretty
>> sure Hohenschwangau is always first on the schedule.
>I think you can book them separately. If there is a combination ticket which
>saves money, this may be true. It was not when I toured both last, but
>that was in 1989
We just walked up the hill and bought tickets in July 1996.
May 19th 2005, 4:22 am
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Re: Help planning Germany-Austria trip
On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:58:59 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>>>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>>>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>>>stuff during the day.
>> I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
>> In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
>> choice.
>I'd not. It's quite a bit of a drive and the OP has small children.
>Hohenschwangau is charming, and different. Linderhof is great. She can
>do it on the next trip. With kids and all this driving, it's too much.
We did the trip with small children. She has to drive to get to
Munich. She may as well go the pretty way.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:55:03 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>>> The horse carriage is for wimps, the old and unfit.
>>>We walked both ways, but the OP has a small child plus an infant to carry
>>>- so the trip will be more difficult for them. Plus they're planning other
>>>stuff during the day.
>> I'd skip the Hohenschwangau castle and go to Schloss Linderhof.
>> In fact once, we went boating and swimming in the lake when we had the
>> choice.
>I'd not. It's quite a bit of a drive and the OP has small children.
>Hohenschwangau is charming, and different. Linderhof is great. She can
>do it on the next trip. With kids and all this driving, it's too much.
We did the trip with small children. She has to drive to get to
Munich. She may as well go the pretty way.
May 19th 2005, 5:30 am
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wieskirche
>
> Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church.
Rococo, in fact.
Jens
> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wieskirche
>
> Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church.
Rococo, in fact.
Jens
May 19th 2005, 5:42 am
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
> You might stop in Nordlingen also, if that makes sense. Make it an
> option.
Well, Nördlingen is a nice town, just like the other ones on the route,
but the Bavrian Railway Museum in Nördlingen
(http://www.bayerisches-eisenbahnmuseum.de/, in German only but have a
look at http://www.bayerisches-eisenbahnmuse...euge/fztab.htm)
might be worth a visit to entertain the 5.5 year old for a while. Mine
had lots of fun there in this age.
Don't expect any shinyness, it's *very* authentic in and around the old
roundhouse.
Jens
> You might stop in Nordlingen also, if that makes sense. Make it an
> option.
Well, Nördlingen is a nice town, just like the other ones on the route,
but the Bavrian Railway Museum in Nördlingen
(http://www.bayerisches-eisenbahnmuseum.de/, in German only but have a
look at http://www.bayerisches-eisenbahnmuse...euge/fztab.htm)
might be worth a visit to entertain the 5.5 year old for a while. Mine
had lots of fun there in this age.
Don't expect any shinyness, it's *very* authentic in and around the old
roundhouse.
Jens
May 19th 2005, 5:48 am
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
> I'd hit Neuschwanstein when it opens, as it gets incredibly crowded,
> with long sweaty waits, later in the day. Actually get there before
> it opens.
Since the admission system changed some years ago, it's much better you
just buy a ticket for a certain time at the ticket center in the village
or even better book it by phone and just pick it up upon arrival, go up
there and get in at your reserved time. No more lines in front of the
entrance. See
http://www.neuschwanstein.de/english.../admission.htm.
Jens
> I'd hit Neuschwanstein when it opens, as it gets incredibly crowded,
> with long sweaty waits, later in the day. Actually get there before
> it opens.
Since the admission system changed some years ago, it's much better you
just buy a ticket for a certain time at the ticket center in the village
or even better book it by phone and just pick it up upon arrival, go up
there and get in at your reserved time. No more lines in front of the
entrance. See
http://www.neuschwanstein.de/english.../admission.htm.
Jens
May 19th 2005, 5:54 am
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:30:55 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Wieskirche
>>
>> Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church.
>Rococo, in fact.
Null Point! :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Juliana L Holm wrote:
>> Jens Arne Maennig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Wieskirche
>>
>> Yes. This is a beautiful Baroque church.
>Rococo, in fact.
Null Point! :-)
