Nitram

On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:06:55 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> Are you posting from Strausburg, Jens?
    >Straus(http://tinyurl.com/ac3uh)bug(http://tinyurl.com/8cfen), please!

http://www.buga2005.de/de/erlebnis/w..._summary.shtml

I'm looking for a suitable beer festival that coincides with the BUGA,
sometime late June early July.

Jens Arne Maennig

nitram wrote:

    > I'm looking for a suitable beer festival that coincides with the BUGA,
    > sometime late June early July.

That's a quiet time of the year because people are busily sitting in the
beergardens. I do not know of any specific beer festivals in Upper
Bavaria at that time of the year. However, the very traditional and
colorful Landshuter Hochzeit (http://www.landshuter-hochzeit.de/) that
is only being held every four years will happen at that time of the
year.

Could that be an option in combination with some nice beergarden visits?

Jens

Gg

"Sudipto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > That's great info LG.
    > If I do decide to go to Vienna instead of Munich then I can probably
    > return the car in Salzburg, take the train to Vienna, spend couple of
    > days there & fly back to Amsterdam.

As someone previously noted, picking up a car in one country and returning
it in another will normally be quite expensive.
GG
    > How is Vienna compared to Munich if we leave aside the museums ?
    >

Juliana L Holm

B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>1.Our air tickets are such that we would be arriving at Frankfurt &
    >>departing via Amsterdam.
    >>2. Approx. 10 days in between
    >>3. We would be travelling with a 5y old kid & a 6 months old baby. So
    >>would like to do everything in a relaxed manner.
    > ....

    >>1. General itinerary I have in mind is to arrive in Frankfurt & go
    >>directly to Rhine valley to Rudesheim. Spend 2-3 days.
    >>2. Travel south & spend 3 days on the Romantic Road taking in some
    >>castles.
    >>3. From here on I am not sure whether to go on to spend some time in
    >>Munich or skip Munich & go on to Strausbug,Austria & say spend 2 days
    >>there. Then go on to Vienna & spend 2 more days. Or just choose only
    >>one place out of Vienna & Strausburg.

    > I would choose one of Salzburg, Munich and Vienna. Vienna is a much
    > longer trip than the other two. Both Salzburg and Munich are very
    > nice; Salzburg is "prettier", but Munich is a very pleasant city.

    > I would be prepared to cut back on the travelling around if the kids
    > don't adapt well. They would be just as happy, maybe happier, spending
    > the whole 10 days in one place.

And indeed with the exception of the Youth Hostel in Bacharach, you could
probably do this without reservations, which would make you more flexible.

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nitram wrote:
    > On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:06:55 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    > <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>(http://tinyurl.com/8cfen), please!
    >
    > Head of the Bavarian Green Party?

No, but the real ones can be admired here:
http://www.bayern.gruene-partei.de/c...esvorstand.htm.

Jens

Bb

On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm wrote:

    > And indeed with the exception of the Youth Hostel in Bacharach, you could
    > probably do this without reservations, which would make you more flexible.

I was amazed at how many "zimmer frei" signs (basically "vacancy") I saw,
even at farmhouses, particularlly around Fussen. That was early-July, so I
would have though it'd be high season. I imagine the kids would love
staying at a German farmhouse!

I just wonder how many of those places have room for four? I found triples
much harder to find that doubles.

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Nitram

On Fri, 13 May 2005 18:28:30 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> I'm looking for a suitable beer festival that coincides with the BUGA,
    >> sometime late June early July.
    >That's a quiet time of the year because people are busily sitting in the
    >beergardens. I do not know of any specific beer festivals in Upper
    >Bavaria at that time of the year. However, the very traditional and
    >colorful Landshuter Hochzeit (http://www.landshuter-hochzeit.de/) that
    >is only being held every four years will happen at that time of the
    >year.

Is that Baldrick leading the old mare?

    >Could that be an option in combination with some nice beergarden visits?

and skip the BUGA - good thinking :-)

Nitram

On Fri, 13 May 2005 19:23:32 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:06:55 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>(http://tinyurl.com/8cfen), please!
    >>
    >> Head of the Bavarian Green Party?
    >No, but the real ones can be admired here:
    >http://www.bayern.gruene-partei.de/c...esvorstand.htm.

More admirable Green girls here
http://www.bayern.gruene-partei.de/c...aus_bayern.htm

Jens Arne Maennig

nitram wrote:

    > and skip the BUGA - good thinking :-)

But BUGA *is* made for old folks!

SCNR

Jens

Dave Smith

GG wrote:

    > As someone previously noted, picking up a car in one country and returning
    > it in another will normally be quite expensive.
    > GG

Yes, but it gives you more versatility. It allows you to start at one point
and end at another without having to spend a lot of time and gas money to get
back to where you started.

Ulf Kutzner

BB schrieb:

    > I just wonder how many of those places have room for four? I found triples
    > much harder to find that doubles.

See http://www.werbach.de/tourist/main_301.pdf

T means for three, V means for four.

Regards, ULF

Ulf Kutzner

Dave Smith schrieb:

    > > As someone previously noted, picking up a car in one country and returning
    > > it in another will normally be quite expensive.
    > > GG
    >
    > Yes, but it gives you more versatility. It allows you to start at one point
    > and end at another without having to spend a lot of time and gas money to get
    > back to where you started.

Well, there is a third way that has already been described here: Try to
give back your rental car in the same country but close to the border.

Regards, ULF

Nitram

On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:08:33 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >nitram wrote:
    >> and skip the BUGA - good thinking :-)
    >But BUGA *is* made for old folks!
    >SCNR

& beer is for all ages.

Dave Smith

Ulf Kutzner wrote:

    > > Yes, but it gives you more versatility. It allows you to start at one point
    > > and end at another without having to spend a lot of time and gas money to get
    > > back to where you started.
    > Well, there is a third way that has already been described here: Try to
    > give back your rental car in the same country but close to the border.

That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the destination in the
other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a strange
city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there and
yourself to the other transport mode.

I had a similar type of hassle about 5 years ago when 5 of us rented a car in
Hamburg to be returned to Paris. The other four flew to Hamburg to pick up the car
and I flew to Copenhagen. We had specifically requested a car to seat five adults.
The car they got was designed for 4. We were stuck with it in Denmark but made
arrangements to pick up another car in Germany, but we had to go to Kiel to get
it. That was quite a bit out of our way and we figured we lost about 4-5 hours of
travel time on that deal. It was just one of those hassles we would have referred
not to have to deal with.

Juliana L Holm

In some cases you can effectively use a car as a part of a multi-modal transport
if you research well enough.

We, for example, in 2001 went to Germany. We rented a car in Hanover at the
train station (many German cities have car rental at the train station which
makes this easy) for four days. Returned it to the train station, took
trains to Berlin, then Krakow, then Weimar and Erfurt, then Koblenz. Boat
Koblenz to Bacharach. Train back to Koblenz early in the morning and picked
up a car (this was more than a little difficult, as the Koblenz car rental
was not in the central part of town. We needed to use a cab to get to it.)

Drove the car for a week, through the Rhine, black forest, around the south
end of the Bodensee and through the alps to Munich, where, again, we were
able to drop it at the train station. Spent five days in Munich then train
to Rothenburg, Eisenach, and finally Frankfurt.

Worked great (except for the issue in Koblenz, which was not too bad, since
we decided quickly to use a cab).

Julie

Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Ulf Kutzner wrote:

    >> > Yes, but it gives you more versatility. It allows you to start at one point
    >> > and end at another without having to spend a lot of time and gas money to get
    >> > back to where you started.
    >> Well, there is a third way that has already been described here: Try to
    >> give back your rental car in the same country but close to the border.

    > That leaves you having to find another means of getting to the destination in the
    > other country. That means taking the time to find the rental lot (in a strange
    > city) to return it to and all the time involved in getting the car there and
    > yourself to the other transport mode.

    > I had a similar type of hassle about 5 years ago when 5 of us rented a car in
    > Hamburg to be returned to Paris. The other four flew to Hamburg to pick up the car
    > and I flew to Copenhagen. We had specifically requested a car to seat five adults.
    > The car they got was designed for 4. We were stuck with it in Denmark but made
    > arrangements to pick up another car in Germany, but we had to go to Kiel to get
    > it. That was quite a bit out of our way and we figured we lost about 4-5 hours of
    > travel time on that deal. It was just one of those hassles we would have referred
    > not to have to deal with.



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