Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Miguel Cruz writes:

    >> I live in Washington (DC) and I haven't used my air
    >> conditioner in years. The fan and judicious application
    >> of venetian blinds work great.

    > Why do you have an air conditioner?

Most domiciles here come with them already installed. When I say most, I
mean like 95%.

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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Miguel Cruz writes:
    >> I live in Washington (DC) and I haven't used my air conditioner in years.
    >> The fan and judicious application of venetian blinds work great.
    > Why do you have an air conditioner?

It is provided, along with "free" electricity, by my landlord. They even
came in and replaced it with a brand new one a couple years ago.

miguel
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"Casey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > > Can't Stand the Heat?
    > > .....
    > > The Washington Post
    > Another typically stupid Post article, exceeded only by articles
    > in the Weekly Sub-Standard. Everything is relative. Europe is
    > not used to the heat. That does not make Europeans stupid,
    > wimps, or anything else. If the USA suddenly had temperatures
    > around 50C - in other words, much hotter than normal - you'd
    > see lots of people dying there as well. Try going to Palm Springs
    > or most anywhere in Southern California during the winter. I have
    > seen residents put on down parkas when the temperature drops
    > to 60F. I knew a guy who just came back from Antarctica and
    > would wear a thin jacket during the cold Midwestern winter
    > because he was used to much colder temperatures. Another
    > thing is that Americans are spoiled because every building is air
    > conditioned. In Europe, most buildings are not air conditioned
    > because there is normally no need for it.

We had temperatures in the 90s for about two weeks in the South of England.
Unbearable, but two weeks of excessive temps cetainly does not justify the
installation of expensive air cooling systems.

Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Jim Morris writes:
    >>> Last time we checked, the weather here in Washington was in the upper
    >>> 80s, which is average to low for this time of year. Temperatures in
    >>> Houston and Dallas in the past couple of days have topped 100, as they
    >>> usually do in summer. Yet somehow, no one's talking about extraordinary
    >>> measures being taken by Texans or Washingtonians.
    >> That's because you have air conditioning.

    > I live in Washington (DC) and I haven't used my air conditioner in years.
    > The fan and judicious application of venetian blinds work great.

Miguel, you are hardly typical (although I applaud your attitude.)

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In article <[email protected]> , Jim Morris
<[email protected]> writes
    >But is this really hot -- hot enough
    > to close businesses, hot enough to cancel trains (the tracks might buckle),


Yes, unless this person would prefer to kill people.
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Mike O'Sullivan writes:

    > We had temperatures in the 90s for about two weeks in the South of England.
    > Unbearable, but two weeks of excessive temps cetainly does not justify the
    > installation of expensive air cooling systems.

Why not? Two weeks of high temperatures was sufficient to kill 13,000
people in France. What are their lives worth? If a similar number of
people died of the cold in winter, would you consider that insufficient
to justify installation of expensive heating systems?

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Juliana L Holm writes:

    > Most domiciles here come with them already installed. When I say most, I
    > mean like 95%.

If they are already there, why not use them?

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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Most domiciles here come with them already installed. When I say most, I
    >> mean like 95%.

    > If they are already there, why not use them?

Because they are very hard on the environment! They use up a lot of scare
energy resources (air conditioning is very expensive) and they contain
greenhouse gasses. If you care about what you are doing to the envioronment
and Miguel clearly does, then you limit your use. I use A/C when temps get
into the 90s, but not for lower temps. I'd prefer to go out on the deck or
open a window and have less impact on my environment.

Julie
- Who also bought a house on purpose within walking distance of the Metro so
I don't have to use a car for practically anything, either, and does not eat
meat, and recycles everything she can, while purchasing stuff with less and/or
recyclable wrapping.
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > Mike O'Sullivan writes:
    >
    >> We had temperatures in the 90s for about two weeks in the South of
    >> England. Unbearable, but two weeks of excessive temps cetainly does
    >> not justify the installation of expensive air cooling systems.
    >
    > Why not? Two weeks of high temperatures was sufficient to kill 13,000
    > people in France. What are their lives worth? If a similar number of
    > people died of the cold in winter, would you consider that
    > insufficient to justify installation of expensive heating systems?

It is not typical that it gets as hot in those two weeks as it did this
year. In Switzerland (and in many other European countries) there were
temperature higher than ever in the time they have been keeping records.

Even with all the air conditioning I remember hearing about people dying in
Chicago during a heat wave.

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > Juliana L Holm writes:
    >
    >> Most domiciles here come with them already installed. When I say
    >> most, I mean like 95%.
    >
    > If they are already there, why not use them?
    >

Some people don't like airconditioning for whatever reason. One of my
colleagues refuses to put on the air conditioning...

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:32:58 +0200, Mxsmanic
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Juliana L Holm writes:
    >> Most domiciles here come with them already installed. When I say most, I
    >> mean like 95%.
    >If they are already there, why not use them?

They are expensive to run, for one thing.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Mike O'Sullivan writes:
    >
    > > We had temperatures in the 90s for about two weeks in the South of England.
    > > Unbearable, but two weeks of excessive temps cetainly does not justify the
    > > installation of expensive air cooling systems.
    >
    > Why not? Two weeks of high temperatures was sufficient to kill 13,000
    > people in France. What are their lives worth? If a similar number of
    > people died of the cold in winter, would you consider that insufficient
    > to justify installation of expensive heating systems?



The mistake in Paris was in not heeding public health officials who
warned of the potential for disaster and doing something about it.

In the US when there is a heat wave in a northern city, steps are taken
to provide fans, check on and often provide transportation to day time
cool sites for the poor elderly who might not be able to fend for
themselves.

Having spent much of the French heat wave in the Louvre [a nicely
chilled environment], I can appreciate the value of being able to get
out of the heat during the worst of the day --- hundreds of elderly
people in their walk ups just suffocated.

You don't need air conditioning in Paris and London -- but you do need
to be alert to situations where vulnerable people need assistance.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:42:29 GMT, Keeger <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Julie
    >>- Who also bought a house on purpose within walking distance of the Metro so
    >>I don't have to use a car for practically anything, either, and does not eat
    >>meat, and recycles everything she can, while purchasing stuff with less and/or
    >>recyclable wrapping.
    >You bought a house when there are homeless people in the world! And
    >they cut down lovely trees to build those houses! What a thoughtless
    >person!

Sounds to me like the house was already there, so the trees had
already been cut down.


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Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Julie
    >- Who also bought a house on purpose within walking distance of the Metro so
    >I don't have to use a car for practically anything, either, and does not eat
    >meat, and recycles everything she can, while purchasing stuff with less and/or
    >recyclable wrapping.

You bought a house when there are homeless people in the world! And
they cut down lovely trees to build those houses! What a thoughtless
person!

K

"nick" <[email protected]> schrieb:
    > Americans *really* need to study the Earth more, paying
    > particular attention to the latitude of Europe..

...and 97 % of the world is using Celsius.
Is it asked too much for to type a C or an F?
It seems 3 % don't give a f****