On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:15:35 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
    >Which one?

Which proves my point.
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Markku Grönroos writes:
    >> In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved
    >> to
    >> death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
    >> naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills
    >> fast.
    > Fast deaths are better for the media, since they have to show everything
    > in about 30 seconds. It's hard to show amateur video of someone
    > starving over a period of six weeks between commercial breaks.

Africa was widely covered in the 1980's. Never heard of Band Aid?

"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > JohnT writes:
    >> Apparently a lot more than you.
    > How do you reach this conclusion? I haven't mentioned doing or not
    > doing anything.
During 2004 I have contibuted GBP 120 to UNICEF, £120 to the British
Heart Foundation and I have made a one-off donation to the Disasters
Emergency Relief Appeal within the past few days. I don't think that this
is a large amount, I don't feel better for having done so, but it is all
I can comfortably afford because I am a pensioner on a fixed income.

You said, earlier today (and I quote) -

"I don't have much money right now. But even if I did, I'd try to spend
it equitably for charity, and not just go by whatever gets the most air
time on CNN."

That infers that you haven't made any donations. But it hasn't prevented
you from making totally insentitive statements about a disaster of
massive proportions. And, BTW, what you said about Truman is only your
opinion. Millions of people would agree with you but, equally, millions
would disagree.

JohnT

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:40:02 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> nitram writes:
    >>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
    >> Which one?
    >Iran.

Bam!
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"Deep Frayed Morgues" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
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    > On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:51:42 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >How can you say that ?
    > >Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
    > >coffers ?
    > Indeed.
    > At the risk of sounding like a total arsehole, I would much rather go
    > there in a year or so and spend my money there. That way the locals
    > might actually have a chance of getting some of it.

I agree totally - see you later in Phuket or Somalia :-)

P.S. for the uninformed many charities keep huge cash balances and spend off
the income not the capital thus ensuring they have long term funds.

P.P.S. I wonder how many art treasures the Vatican has sold to provide funds
for the disaster.

"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:40:02 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected].. .
    > >> nitram writes:
    > >>
    > >>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
    > >>
    > >> Which one?
    > >
    > >Iran.
    > >
    > Bam!

Also on Boxing day IIRC.

Maybe G-d is punishing those who didnt celebrate in the proper way ???

The Reids wrote:
    > Following up to Mxsmanic
    >
    >
    >>>you think this is a small scale disaster?
    >>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
    >>less media attention.
    >
    >
    > feel free to elucidate.

For example July 27, 1976- earthquake in China, Tangshan, official
deathtoll 255,000, unofficial estimates 2 times higher.
The 1990 Iran earthquake killed 50,000.

T.

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:54:35 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Deep Frayed Morgues" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
    >message news:[email protected]...
    >> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:51:42 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >How can you say that ?
    >> >Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
    >> >coffers ?
    >> Indeed.
    >> At the risk of sounding like a total arsehole, I would much rather go
    >> there in a year or so and spend my money there. That way the locals
    >> might actually have a chance of getting some of it.
    >I agree totally - see you later in Phuket or Somalia :-)
    >P.S. for the uninformed many charities keep huge cash balances and spend off
    >the income not the capital thus ensuring they have long term funds.
    >P.P.S. I wonder how many art treasures the Vatican has sold to provide funds
    >for the disaster.

Probably the same number as EIIR and the Archbishop of Canterbury
together.
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:56:45 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:40:02 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> >news:[email protected].. .
    >> >> nitram writes:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
    >> >>
    >> >> Which one?
    >> >
    >> >Iran.
    >> >
    >> Bam!
    >Also on Boxing day IIRC.
    >Maybe G-d is punishing those who didnt celebrate in the proper way ???

How come he missed you? :-)
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Martin

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:04:37 +0100, Tom Peel
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >The Reids wrote:
    >> Following up to Mxsmanic
    >>
    >>
    >>>>you think this is a small scale disaster?
    >>>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
    >>>less media attention.
    >>
    >>
    >> feel free to elucidate.
    >For example July 27, 1976- earthquake in China, Tangshan, official
    >deathtoll 255,000, unofficial estimates 2 times higher.
    >The 1990 Iran earthquake killed 50,000.

as did the 2003 Iran earthquake.
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Martin

JohnT writes:

    > During 2004 I have contibuted GBP 120 to UNICEF, £120 to the British
    > Heart Foundation and I have made a one-off donation to the Disasters
    > Emergency Relief Appeal within the past few days. I don't think that this
    > is a large amount ...

I agree.

    > ... I don't feel better for having done so, but it is all
    > I can comfortably afford because I am a pensioner on a fixed income.

What percentage of your income does it represent?

    > That infers that you haven't made any donations.

It infers nothing. Only you can infer.

    > But it hasn't prevented
    > you from making totally insentitive statements about a disaster of
    > massive proportions.

Sensitivity is in the mind of the beholder.

    > And, BTW, what you said about Truman is only your
    > opinion. Millions of people would agree with you but, equally, millions
    > would disagree.

So which group is being "insensitive"?

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"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:56:45 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected].. .
    > >> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:40:02 -0000, "Mark Hewitt"
    > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> >news:[email protected].. .
    > >> >> nitram writes:
    > >> >>
    > >> >>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Which one?
    > >> >
    > >> >Iran.
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> Bam!
    > >
    > >Also on Boxing day IIRC.
    > >
    > >Maybe G-d is punishing those who didnt celebrate in the proper way ???
    > How come he missed you? :-)

Maybe celebrating with Misletoe is the right way ? :-)

Mark Hewitt writes:

    > Africa was widely covered in the 1980's. Never heard of Band Aid?

It's a brand name for a disposable bandage.

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"nitram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:04:37 +0100, Tom Peel
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >The Reids wrote:
    > >> Following up to Mxsmanic
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>>you think this is a small scale disaster?
    > >>>
    > >>>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
    > >>>less media attention.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> feel free to elucidate.
    > >
    > >For example July 27, 1976- earthquake in China, Tangshan, official
    > >deathtoll 255,000, unofficial estimates 2 times higher.
    > >The 1990 Iran earthquake killed 50,000.
    > as did the 2003 Iran earthquake.

But a different 50,000
(of which I know someone who knew one of them)
Just out of interest - does anyone here know anyone directly affect by the
Tsunami ?

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:18:24 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Mark Hewitt writes:
    >> Africa was widely covered in the 1980's. Never heard of Band Aid?
    >It's a brand name for a disposable bandage.


and .... ?
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