Asia Tsunami Disaster Appeal
Dec 30th 2004 | 6:49 am
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Asia Tsunami Disaster Appeal
For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
Nick
appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
Nick
Dec 30th 2004 | 8:00 am
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"Nick Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if
everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
Suggest that:
1. Donate through a well known legitimate charity (e.g. Red Cross, Unicef,
etc). There will be a million hucksters and con artists setting up bogus
"charities" to funnel your hard earned money into their pockets. Don't help
them.
2. What is needed is money. Forget the canned beans and bars of soap. They
have all that in country. The shipping costs from North America or Europe
far exceed the cost to purchase and ship within country. All the junk people
send to crisis areas just gets in the way and clogs warehouses. Send money
and let the emergency agencies decide how it can best be utilized.
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news:[email protected] k...
> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if
everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
Suggest that:
1. Donate through a well known legitimate charity (e.g. Red Cross, Unicef,
etc). There will be a million hucksters and con artists setting up bogus
"charities" to funnel your hard earned money into their pockets. Don't help
them.
2. What is needed is money. Forget the canned beans and bars of soap. They
have all that in country. The shipping costs from North America or Europe
far exceed the cost to purchase and ship within country. All the junk people
send to crisis areas just gets in the way and clogs warehouses. Send money
and let the emergency agencies decide how it can best be utilized.
--
Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
Dec 30th 2004 | 9:03 am
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:00:49 -0600, "Donald Newcomb"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Nick Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if
>everyone
>> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
>Suggest that:
>1. Donate through a well known legitimate charity (e.g. Red Cross, Unicef,
>etc). There will be a million hucksters and con artists setting up bogus
>"charities" to funnel your hard earned money into their pockets. Don't help
>them.
>2. What is needed is money. Forget the canned beans and bars of soap. They
>have all that in country. The shipping costs from North America or Europe
>far exceed the cost to purchase and ship within country. All the junk people
>send to crisis areas just gets in the way and clogs warehouses. Send money
>and let the emergency agencies decide how it can best be utilized.
Very sensible advice.
The Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) seems genuine and incorporates
British Red Cross. You can check out the members on their web site
at http://www.dec.org.uk/ which will also point you to the page that
Nick identified
Failing that you can telephone 0870 60 90 900 in UK and you will be
"talked" through how to donate.
The British Red Cross, as well as linking to the DEC appeal site have
their own number and online donation page. The number is 08705 125
125 and the web site is is
http://www.bluepeter.redcross.org.uk...eal/appeal.htm
I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be homeless with no
proper water or food, perhaps to be injured with no readily available
medical supplies. I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
and to know loved ones are dead or to be still waiting and hoping for
good news. I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
affected by this.
If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
computer?
Derek
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Nick Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. uk...
>> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if
>everyone
>> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
>Suggest that:
>1. Donate through a well known legitimate charity (e.g. Red Cross, Unicef,
>etc). There will be a million hucksters and con artists setting up bogus
>"charities" to funnel your hard earned money into their pockets. Don't help
>them.
>2. What is needed is money. Forget the canned beans and bars of soap. They
>have all that in country. The shipping costs from North America or Europe
>far exceed the cost to purchase and ship within country. All the junk people
>send to crisis areas just gets in the way and clogs warehouses. Send money
>and let the emergency agencies decide how it can best be utilized.
Very sensible advice.
The Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC) seems genuine and incorporates
British Red Cross. You can check out the members on their web site
at http://www.dec.org.uk/ which will also point you to the page that
Nick identified
Failing that you can telephone 0870 60 90 900 in UK and you will be
"talked" through how to donate.
The British Red Cross, as well as linking to the DEC appeal site have
their own number and online donation page. The number is 08705 125
125 and the web site is is
http://www.bluepeter.redcross.org.uk...eal/appeal.htm
I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be homeless with no
proper water or food, perhaps to be injured with no readily available
medical supplies. I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
and to know loved ones are dead or to be still waiting and hoping for
good news. I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
affected by this.
If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
computer?
Derek
Dec 30th 2004 | 9:21 pm
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> I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be homeless with no
> proper water or food,
Have you never been hungry ?
Try flying these days.
Never been left sleeping at an airport ?
> perhaps to be injured with no readily available
> medical supplies.
Never sprained your ankle on a country walk, and not know if it was broken ?
> I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
> and to know loved ones are dead
Are you seriously telling me you have never lost a loved one ?
> or to be still waiting and hoping for
> good news.
Never waited with someone for hospital test results ?
Never lost a child (even for a few minutes)
You must have led a very sheltered life.
> I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
> disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
> such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
> affected by this.
> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> computer?
It was interesting to hear on one BBC news broadcast yesterday that someone
was saying the problem wasn't lack of money, it was knowing what was needed
where and physically getting it there.
I'm sure we all want to do something to help, but sometimes we have to
accept that it isn't possible to help.
Making a small regular donation to one of the major aid relief charities
will help them prepare for the next time.
> proper water or food,
Have you never been hungry ?
Try flying these days.
Never been left sleeping at an airport ?
> perhaps to be injured with no readily available
> medical supplies.
Never sprained your ankle on a country walk, and not know if it was broken ?
> I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
> and to know loved ones are dead
Are you seriously telling me you have never lost a loved one ?
> or to be still waiting and hoping for
> good news.
Never waited with someone for hospital test results ?
Never lost a child (even for a few minutes)
You must have led a very sheltered life.
> I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
> disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
> such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
> affected by this.
> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> computer?
It was interesting to hear on one BBC news broadcast yesterday that someone
was saying the problem wasn't lack of money, it was knowing what was needed
where and physically getting it there.
I'm sure we all want to do something to help, but sometimes we have to
accept that it isn't possible to help.
Making a small regular donation to one of the major aid relief charities
will help them prepare for the next time.
Dec 30th 2004 | 10:35 pm
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Nick Fisher writes:
> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
If everyone did it in an equal way for all disasters, we'd all be
bankrupt in no time.
The gravity of a disaster is not accurately reflected by the amount of
media attention it gets.
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> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
If everyone did it in an equal way for all disasters, we'd all be
bankrupt in no time.
The gravity of a disaster is not accurately reflected by the amount of
media attention it gets.
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Dec 30th 2004 | 10:36 pm
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Derek McBryde writes:
> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> computer?
What other earthquakes did you donate for?
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> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> computer?
What other earthquakes did you donate for?
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Dec 30th 2004 | 10:45 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nick Fisher writes:
>> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
>> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
> important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer than
you seem to think.
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> Nick Fisher writes:
>> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
>> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
> important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer than
you seem to think.
miguel
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Dec 30th 2004 | 10:49 pm
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Nick Fisher writes:
> >> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to
the
> >> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> >
> > Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> > number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
> > important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
> Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer
than
> you seem to think.
Hopefully it will get sufficient media attention in the USA to finally put
11/9 into its proper perspective.
news:[email protected]...
> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Nick Fisher writes:
> >> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to
the
> >> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> >
> > Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> > number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it more
> > important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
> Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer
than
> you seem to think.
Hopefully it will get sufficient media attention in the USA to finally put
11/9 into its proper perspective.
Dec 30th 2004 | 11:09 pm
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Nick Fisher wrote:
> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
>
> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
If you're in the USA, you might find the CHARITY page at the site at
Right in the sig helpful:
http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Charity.html
If you're not in the USA, you can still find many international
organizations through the links on that page.
__________________________________________________ ______________
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> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each to the
> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
>
> This particular link is UK-specific, but the idea is universal - if everyone
> did something similar, we would raise a powerful amount of money.
If you're in the USA, you might find the CHARITY page at the site at
Right in the sig helpful:
http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Charity.html
If you're not in the USA, you can still find many international
organizations through the links on that page.
__________________________________________________ ______________
A San Franciscan whose reverence for each god is equal.
http://geocities.com/dancefest/ http://geocities.com/iconoc/
ICQ: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 IClast at SFbay Net
Dec 30th 2004 | 11:27 pm
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On 2004-12-31 12:36:14 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> Derek McBryde writes:
>
>> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
>> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
>> computer?
>
> What other earthquakes did you donate for?
How many earthquakes this size have occurred in your lifetime?
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> Derek McBryde writes:
>
>> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
>> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
>> computer?
>
> What other earthquakes did you donate for?
How many earthquakes this size have occurred in your lifetime?
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Dec 30th 2004 | 11:32 pm
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Following up to Miss L. Toe
>> I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be homeless with no
>> proper water or food,
>Have you never been hungry ?
Well, answering for me, no, I have never been in the situation
where I thought I might starve or dehydrate to death, I've never
even been *really* hungry.
>Try flying these days.
>Never been left sleeping at an airport ?
Tough compared with sleeping in the open with no idea when it
might end. Being homeless is a very different feeling from
roughing it a bit.
>> perhaps to be injured with no readily available
>> medical supplies.
>Never sprained your ankle on a country walk, and not know if it was broken ?
Done that. Mountain rescue would have been a few hours away if
needed. Hospitals ready to act.
>> I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
>> and to know loved ones are dead
>Are you seriously telling me you have never lost a loved one ?
Not all at once. And not coupled with all the other misfortune.
>> or to be still waiting and hoping for
>> good news.
>Never waited with someone for hospital test results ?
>Never lost a child (even for a few minutes)
>You must have led a very sheltered life.
I have indeed led a sheltered life, I don't know anyone here as
far as I know who has been at the mercy of the elements, with no
emergency services, no food or water, all possessions destroyed
or lost, little contact with the outside world and no idea when
it will end.
Worst i've had is living in my car for a few days, if I had got
ill I could have got help
>> I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
>> disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
>> such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
>> affected by this.
>> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
>> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
>> computer?
>It was interesting to hear on one BBC news broadcast yesterday that someone
>was saying the problem wasn't lack of money, it was knowing what was needed
>where and physically getting it there.
People on the radio say all sorts of things.
Its both money and logistics, donate now.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>> I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be homeless with no
>> proper water or food,
>Have you never been hungry ?
Well, answering for me, no, I have never been in the situation
where I thought I might starve or dehydrate to death, I've never
even been *really* hungry.
>Try flying these days.
>Never been left sleeping at an airport ?
Tough compared with sleeping in the open with no idea when it
might end. Being homeless is a very different feeling from
roughing it a bit.
>> perhaps to be injured with no readily available
>> medical supplies.
>Never sprained your ankle on a country walk, and not know if it was broken ?
Done that. Mountain rescue would have been a few hours away if
needed. Hospitals ready to act.
>> I can't imagine what it must be like to be this
>> and to know loved ones are dead
>Are you seriously telling me you have never lost a loved one ?
Not all at once. And not coupled with all the other misfortune.
>> or to be still waiting and hoping for
>> good news.
>Never waited with someone for hospital test results ?
>Never lost a child (even for a few minutes)
>You must have led a very sheltered life.
I have indeed led a sheltered life, I don't know anyone here as
far as I know who has been at the mercy of the elements, with no
emergency services, no food or water, all possessions destroyed
or lost, little contact with the outside world and no idea when
it will end.
Worst i've had is living in my car for a few days, if I had got
ill I could have got help
>> I shudder to imagine what the next stage might be with
>> disease or whatever. Donating even a small amount of money seems
>> such a little thing to do for the huge number of people so badly
>> affected by this.
>> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
>> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
>> computer?
>It was interesting to hear on one BBC news broadcast yesterday that someone
>was saying the problem wasn't lack of money, it was knowing what was needed
>where and physically getting it there.
People on the radio say all sorts of things.
Its both money and logistics, donate now.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 30th 2004 | 11:32 pm
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>The gravity of a disaster is not accurately reflected by the amount of
>media attention it gets.
you think this is a small scale disaster?
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Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>The gravity of a disaster is not accurately reflected by the amount of
>media attention it gets.
you think this is a small scale disaster?
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 30th 2004 | 11:32 pm
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Following up to Miss L. Toe
>> Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer
>than
>> you seem to think.
>Hopefully it will get sufficient media attention in the USA to finally put
>11/9 into its proper perspective.
I think 11/9 was more about the shock to Americans that enemies
might strike back in the US than just the personal tragedies of
those who died. Therefore I don't think natural disasters are
going to change anything there. After all, how many die on the
roads?
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>> Disasters that take 130,000 lives in the space of a few days are rarer
>than
>> you seem to think.
>Hopefully it will get sufficient media attention in the USA to finally put
>11/9 into its proper perspective.
I think 11/9 was more about the shock to Americans that enemies
might strike back in the US than just the personal tragedies of
those who died. Therefore I don't think natural disasters are
going to change anything there. After all, how many die on the
roads?
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 31st 2004 | 12:10 am
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"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2004-12-31 12:36:14 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> > Derek McBryde writes:
> >
> >> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> >> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> >> computer?
> >
> > What other earthquakes did you donate for?
> How many earthquakes this size have occurred in your lifetime?
Size doesn't matter.
Does one person hurt any less just becuase there are more hurt people around
?
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> On 2004-12-31 12:36:14 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> > Derek McBryde writes:
> >
> >> If you are reading this and haven't donated, maybe you could
> >> consider donating even a small amount before you switch off your
> >> computer?
> >
> > What other earthquakes did you donate for?
> How many earthquakes this size have occurred in your lifetime?
Size doesn't matter.
Does one person hurt any less just becuase there are more hurt people around
?
Dec 31st 2004 | 12:11 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Nick Fisher writes:
>> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each
>> to the
>> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it
> more
> important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
I can't receive CNN, but BBC News has been covering this extensively. The
predicted death toll is now 180,000 plus. There has been no natural
disaster in living memory which has caused such a death toll. And rather
than nit-picking and going through records to prove me wrong, just make a
contribution towards disaster relief.
JohnT
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> Nick Fisher writes:
>> For what it's worth, my wife and I just donated an hour's wages each
>> to the
>> appeal at https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
> Be sure to do the same for every other disaster that kills a similar
> number of people. Just because it's covered on CNN doesn't make it
> more
> important than the disasters that get no media exposure.
I can't receive CNN, but BBC News has been covering this extensively. The
predicted death toll is now 180,000 plus. There has been no natural
disaster in living memory which has caused such a death toll. And rather
than nit-picking and going through records to prove me wrong, just make a
contribution towards disaster relief.
JohnT
