Asia Tsunami Disaster Appeal
Dec 31st 2004 | 1:35 am
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On 2004-12-31 15:19:28 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> Jeremy writes:
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>> Let's start with magnitude.
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> This earthquake has not often been matched for magnitude.
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> Jeremy writes:
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>> Let's start with magnitude.
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> This earthquake has not often been matched for magnitude.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 1:35 am
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JohnT writes:
> It seems to me that you are lacking more than somewhat in
> basic humanity.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:03 am
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:00:49 -0600, "Donald Newcomb"
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>2. What is needed is money.
Let's see just what happens with all that money. I am betting the
locals will see very little of it.
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>2. What is needed is money.
Let's see just what happens with all that money. I am betting the
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:05 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> you think this is a small scale disaster?
>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
>less media attention.
feel free to elucidate.
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>> you think this is a small scale disaster?
>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
>less media attention.
feel free to elucidate.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:05 am
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Following up to Miss L. Toe
>> How the hell can anybody answer that? They don't even know how
>> many are dead. If the Red Cross finds itself with two much money
>> for the work on hand, i'll be very surprised.
>> But i can tell you one thing, without donations they *will* run
>> out of money.
>How can you say that ?
simple logic
>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Of course not and not knowing the funds of various charities is
not going to stop me giving.
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>> How the hell can anybody answer that? They don't even know how
>> many are dead. If the Red Cross finds itself with two much money
>> for the work on hand, i'll be very surprised.
>> But i can tell you one thing, without donations they *will* run
>> out of money.
>How can you say that ?
simple logic
>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Of course not and not knowing the funds of various charities is
not going to stop me giving.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:06 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:46:36 +0000, The Reids
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>Following up to Markku Grönroos
>>> I can't receive CNN, but BBC News has been covering this extensively. The
>>> predicted death toll is now 180,000 plus. There has been no natural
>>> disaster in living memory which has caused such a death toll. And rather
>>> than nit-picking and going through records to prove me wrong, just make a
>>> contribution towards disaster relief.
>>In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>>death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>>naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>These things *were* covered by the media. People however may be
>less willing to give to Africa because many of the problems are
>seen as self inflicted by local wars or incompetant/corrupt
>government and administration or by climate (as you said
>"persistent drought"), none of which will changed by sending food
>parcels but rather only by fundamental changes in the way African
>countries operate.
The same problems certainly exist in Indonesia, except for the drought
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>Following up to Markku Grönroos
>>> I can't receive CNN, but BBC News has been covering this extensively. The
>>> predicted death toll is now 180,000 plus. There has been no natural
>>> disaster in living memory which has caused such a death toll. And rather
>>> than nit-picking and going through records to prove me wrong, just make a
>>> contribution towards disaster relief.
>>In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>>death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>>naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>These things *were* covered by the media. People however may be
>less willing to give to Africa because many of the problems are
>seen as self inflicted by local wars or incompetant/corrupt
>government and administration or by climate (as you said
>"persistent drought"), none of which will changed by sending food
>parcels but rather only by fundamental changes in the way African
>countries operate.
The same problems certainly exist in Indonesia, except for the drought
bit.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:07 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> please list similar natural disasters that didn't get extensive
>> media coverage.
>Just about every long-lasting disaster gets only light media coverage.
>Famines and droughts and other long-term weather disasters are in this
>category, and they kill millions.
see my other posts about famine in Africa.
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>> please list similar natural disasters that didn't get extensive
>> media coverage.
>Just about every long-lasting disaster gets only light media coverage.
>Famines and droughts and other long-term weather disasters are in this
>category, and they kill millions.
see my other posts about famine in Africa.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:08 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:08:48 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Markku Grönroos writes:
>> In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>> death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>> naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>Fast deaths are better for the media, since they have to show everything
>in about 30 seconds. It's hard to show amateur video of someone
>starving over a period of six weeks between commercial breaks.
You're really walking a fine line on this one Mixi. The famines in
Africa received a lot of media attention, and our screens have shown
plenty of starving people over the last couple of decades.
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>Markku Grönroos writes:
>> In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>> death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>> naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>Fast deaths are better for the media, since they have to show everything
>in about 30 seconds. It's hard to show amateur video of someone
>starving over a period of six weeks between commercial breaks.
You're really walking a fine line on this one Mixi. The famines in
Africa received a lot of media attention, and our screens have shown
plenty of starving people over the last couple of decades.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:12 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:51:42 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
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>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Well it's not too difficult to find out, they publish annual accounts,
of course it won't be up to date, but it'll give you a pretty good
idea.
ICRC seemed to have about 20million to hand at the end of 2003, or
roughly 2 months outgoings.
Jim.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Well it's not too difficult to find out, they publish annual accounts,
of course it won't be up to date, but it'll give you a pretty good
idea.
ICRC seemed to have about 20million to hand at the end of 2003, or
roughly 2 months outgoings.
Jim.
Dec 31st 2004 | 2:15 am
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JohnT writes:
> Apparently a lot more than you.
How do you reach this conclusion? I haven't mentioned doing or not
doing anything.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:15 am
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nitram writes:
> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
Which one?
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:27 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:51:42 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
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>How can you say that ?
>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Indeed.
At the risk of sounding like a total arsehole, I would much rather go
there in a year or so and spend my money there. That way the locals
might actually have a chance of getting some of it.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>How can you say that ?
>Do you know how much cash the Red Cross (and other charities) has in its
>coffers ?
Indeed.
At the risk of sounding like a total arsehole, I would much rather go
there in a year or so and spend my money there. That way the locals
might actually have a chance of getting some of it.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:39 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:05:44 +0000, The Reids
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>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>> you think this is a small scale disaster?
>>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
>>less media attention.
>feel free to elucidate.
There was one in the cupboard under the stairs that has generated zero
publicity.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>> you think this is a small scale disaster?
>>No, but there are many large-scale disasters that receive relatively
>>less media attention.
>feel free to elucidate.
There was one in the cupboard under the stairs that has generated zero
publicity.
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Dec 31st 2004 | 2:40 am
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> nitram writes:
>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
> Which one?
Iran.
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> nitram writes:
>> Last year's big earthquake killed 50,000.
> Which one?
Iran.
Dec 31st 2004 | 2:41 am
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:08:37 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:08:48 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Markku Grönroos writes:
>>> In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>>> death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>>> naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>>Fast deaths are better for the media, since they have to show everything
>>in about 30 seconds. It's hard to show amateur video of someone
>>starving over a period of six weeks between commercial breaks.
>You're really walking a fine line on this one Mixi. The famines in
>Africa received a lot of media attention, and our screens have shown
>plenty of starving people over the last couple of decades.
Remember that Mixi hasn't had a screen since the French tax people
took it away.
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:08:48 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Markku Grönroos writes:
>>> In 1980's in Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia alone millions of people starved to
>>> death due to persistent drought in the region. This way of dying is
>>> naturally much more painful and horrendous than drowning which kills fast.
>>Fast deaths are better for the media, since they have to show everything
>>in about 30 seconds. It's hard to show amateur video of someone
>>starving over a period of six weeks between commercial breaks.
>You're really walking a fine line on this one Mixi. The famines in
>Africa received a lot of media attention, and our screens have shown
>plenty of starving people over the last couple of decades.
Remember that Mixi hasn't had a screen since the French tax people
took it away.
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