It's not all Bad........

Old Feb 26th 2009, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Well, I have never really bought a load of "stuff" (clothes, shoes, handbags, toys, TV's, etc.), but maybe one service would be sorting through people's "stuff" and helping them to put it on eBay ...

For me, off the top of my head, I'd pay someone who would:

1) Delete all the garbage emails from my work email account before I open my Inbox every day. I get over 100 a day and most of them are a waste of my time (but I still have to read them to find out if they are important ...)

2) Clean my house

3) Help me with work around the house that needs two pairs of hands

4) Wash my car at my house (I barely have time on the way home to fill up the gas tank, so you can forget going through the car wash)

... and lastly ...

5) Be my BE time-out monitor (slap me in the back of the head when I've been on BE too long and I really should be getting to work - like now).

Essentially, my work hours leave me so little time that I need help with just about everything, so whatever the "life" equivalent is of a personal assistant, that's what I need.
Most of us call it a wife D
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Old Feb 26th 2009, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by cricket1
Just out of interest and to put things in perspective, has anyone noticed the massive jump in the UK of people being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes? It's huge and mostly it's due to obesity.

The last thing I worry about is the economy. I worry more about not being able to see a doctor if I ever need one because I stayed healthy while others didn't. To me, the growing demand on the NHS is a real crisis. I'm glad the government bailed banks and car manufacturers out because the wider nightmare is the cutbacks that would happen in health and education if they didn't.
This is something I know a little about, professionally. It's mostly due to lifestyle, and obesity is a by-product of the lifestyle, which in turn is associated with metabolic changes that help us to regulate blood sugar levels, maintain a healthy cardiovascular system, etc.

And this is just as much an economic crisis (in fact more of one, because I don't see things changing) as the whole banking thing, except this one is probably more serious.

Cripes, I just realised I am becoming the official doom and gloom merchant on here. It really is time I took a time-out. I think I'll take the dog for a walk.

[Later edit: Like every clinical condition, there are people for whom the reason is nothing to do with the above, but in general, the above explains most cases of Type II DM]

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Most of us call it a wife D
No, a wife is much more expensive.
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I rang the UK this morning to speak to a reliable source (business contact). He said the market town to which we are returning still has most of it's specialist shops plus it's getting Waitrose and Monsoon. He's not happy because turnover is down a little but the same old shops are still there since I left 5 years ago plus some new big names are about to open.

I remain confused by the media stories of how the UK economy is in dire straits and that the UK is in deep recession.
I don't think that one phone call and one business contact is really conclusive. The UK is officially in recession, that is a fact.

I also agree that the media talks the economy down and makes it even worse, as people get scared, stop spending etc and it is a vicious circle. That does not make it unreal though.

I moved back from Bermuda in July last year. Had I known quite what would happen a few months later I would DEFINITELY have waited another year to see how it all panned out.
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Originally Posted by Bevm
I hope I don't sound as if I'm not considering them. I am, and I really feel for them, especially retired people using some investments to supplement their income and now finding that money halved or gone. Or sound small businesses being squeezed, Tricia, simply because people are afraid to spend and banks are sitting on what little money they have like broody hens.

But I think we have to see what is, not what was or what we want it to be as we plan how to steer through all this.

Bev
I like Obamas approach so far. In his speech earlier this week, he has lifted American spirits by announcing part of the way out is to heavily invest in changing the country to meet its future needs. Converting infrastructure to greener methods, upgrading and educating to meet future needs too. All this will not only generate a hell of a lot of jobs but change the way we do things.
I wish the British government would buck up and take the same approach.
Imagine how many jobs would be created bringing UK into the 21st century by using new technology in areas such as fuel, energy supply, administration, etc etc.

I remember watching an interview with some city big bod last week, who said much of this problem has been created due to the world economy trying to operate in a system created so long ago, it is no longer relevant to modern day fiscal policies and trading and i agree with that.


The world needs a damn good shake up. Until now we were all too scared to take the leap. Now, I believe it is our only way out.
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OK, now I've had my first cup of coffee and the central heating is back on (yes, we do have luxuries in Scotland, Sally ), I'll tell you what the "tantrum" was about (I personally thought it was more of a "rant"; old people rants, babies have tantrums, etc. - or maybe that was your point).

Let me start off by again saying you provide a lot of positive "get off your *rse and move" type advice to people, and sometimes they really need it, so more power to you.

My "rant" was because there are times when you seem to portray yourself as the only person on these boards who (a) had it rough and (b) has the gumption to succeed in life. Your own "rants" in this thread were offensive to me and others who are in a pickle despite the fact we are not greedy, whining, materialistic people (OK, maybe we whine a little now and again). Take Tricia, for example, who is struggling to keep her business afloat because of the economic situation. She doesn't seem greedy or materialistic at all.

When someone is in that position, they don't take favorably to responses that say, in essence, "I'm sick of people in Britain complaining about life being tough when it's all their own fault", and "quit whining and be more like me - and just in case you haven't read my threads, here is the story once again of where I came from, who screwed me over and what a fantastic business plan I now have." I'm sure you deserve every success you have achieved through dint of your discipline, drive, and ingenuity. But please quit telling us that we're such a bunch of losers if we're not just like you.

OK, second "tantrum" well and truly over.
At which point did I suggest either you are Tricia were losers???? Was I not making a general point about a particular mentality that sometimes portrays the British public? Why did you take it so personally when it wasn't aimed at any particular individual?
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Originally Posted by cricket1
At which point did I suggest either you are Tricia were losers???? Was I not making a general point about a particular mentality that sometimes portrays the British public? Why did you take it so personally when it wasn't aimed at any particular individual?
When you generalize in the way you did, you don't have to aim (or name) in order to include individuals in your comments.

Bugger it, I'm not getting into a to and fro on this. I've made my point (or tried, anyway).
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When you generalize in the way you did, you don't have to aim (or name) in order to include individuals in your comments.

Bugger it, I'm not getting into a to and fro on this. I've made my point (or tried, anyway).
If you read my comments properly, you would have realised I was referring to my own UK friends, accquaintences and wider circle. Where else could I have got my observations from?
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At which point did I suggest either you are Tricia were losers???? Was I not making a general point about a particular mentality that sometimes portrays the British public? Why did you take it so personally when it wasn't aimed at any particular individual?
Cricket, I'm afraid Dunroving's previous points were spot on from my point of view also. When you come on to the board to attempt to portray a different perspective (from personal, at the coal face experience) it is indeed personal when your reply, quoting us, points out that you don't agree and yes, as Dunroving said, goes on to say that the British public (I belong to that group) are a bunch of whiners who should be like you and get on with it, it's their own fault etc etc. Yes, I'm having a rant because I've never been materialistic or taken out ridiculous amounts of credit & still find myself (and many many people I know) caught up in this wretched situation.

To be fair, you mention frequently how your husband left you destitute, no it wasn't the govt but you still felt screwed over, well that's how many Brits feel, yes, I'm a fighter and will pull myself up from my bootstraps but this is a discussion and I will put another side to the debate.
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Cricket, I'm afraid Dunroving's previous points were spot on from my point of view also. When you come on to the board to attempt to portray a different perspective (from personal, at the coal face experience) it is indeed personal when your reply, quoting us, points out that you don't agree and yes, as Dunroving said, goes on to say that the British public (I belong to that group) are a bunch of whiners who should be like you and get on with it, it's their own fault etc etc. Yes, I'm having a rant because I've never been materialistic or taken out ridiculous amounts of credit & still find myself (and many many people I know) caught up in this wretched situation.

To be fair, you mention frequently how your husband left you destitute, no it wasn't the govt but you still felt screwed over, well that's how many Brits feel, yes, I'm a fighter and will pull myself up from my bootstraps but this is a discussion and I will put another side to the debate.

Yes but I've had worse times than my ex husband leaving me destitute and I don't even think about them never mind mention them on BE, and to be frank, I think it's a bit low that you would drag them up now just as a point scoring exercise to defend your current situation as it's percieved by yourself. Personally, I think you should go to your nearest Blockbuster shop, get out the DVD Mamma Mia and remember what life was like before it got so serious, because frankly, if you and Dunroving are what I'm coming home to, I'd rather get high and happy on remembering the best times in order to cope with the low times. That's the only way we're all going to pull through.
And hey....I am over you saying it's alright for you Cricket.......I've done it just as tough as anyone else and if I have mentioned it a few times it's been to help spur on someone else in difficulty.
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For goodness sake, it's not point scoring, it is pointing out that you mention 'bad times' & how you came through it, I am now pointing out that many people are now experiencing bad times also, many many through no fault of their own & it is neither correct nor enlightened to shove them all in the same category of whiners and losers. Enlightened debate is not possible or enjoyable with such a high handed attitude.

'Defend' my situation as I 'perceive' it, yet another arrogant statement and one that is quite frankly beneath my dignity to respond any further to, I bid you good day.
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I bid you good day.
Such a shame you`re going, it was all such an enjoyable read
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For goodness sake, it's not point scoring, it is pointing out that you mention 'bad times' & how you came through it, I am now pointing out that many people are now experiencing bad times also, many many through no fault of their own & it is neither correct nor enlightened to shove them all in the same category of whiners and losers. Enlightened debate is not possible or enjoyable with such a high handed attitude.

'Defend' my situation as I 'perceive' it, yet another arrogant statement and one that is quite frankly beneath my dignity to respond any further to, I bid you good day.
I bid you goodnight. It's 10.30pm here so way past my bedtime.
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For the record, I find myself in agreement with Dunroving and Tricia. I have a sister who compares everything to herself and her own experiences and sadly lacks integrity, without even realising it. She mean's well.
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For the record, I find myself in agreement with Dunroving and Tricia. I have a sister who compares everything to herself and her own experiences and sadly lacks integrity, without even realising it. She mean's well.
So I sadly lack integrity do I? Oh Dear. I think not. I have not attacked Tricia, Dunroving or anyone personally. If they feel they must compare themselves, they must ask themselves why they need to do this.
As you've joined the bandwagon USA gypsies, you perhaps need to ask yourself also why you needed to post the above comments?

The sad truth is the whenever an upeat, positive comment is posted about the UK, there is a rush to undermine any such attempt at making it look like a good place because of others running it into the ground. It won't be the government that ruin the country, it will be the attitude of people who enjoy being negative and whining.
Then having made it miserable for everyone else, they will be the first ones to leave it.

Isn't that right Tricia? Didn't you PM me with your possible motives for moving to Oz. Just got to justify it by sinking the UK first.
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