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#61

It is what it is. Got a few complications around what it would mean depending on the scenario so can't really plan too much until I know.
My role is EMEA wide so the fallout in Europe is hurting, the MENA business is doing well in the part I service but the panic for cash is strong.
The equation is a bit like this:
('we must protect our people' + 'marketing content showing desks at home' + 'videos from group leadership') x ('can only actually think short term' + 'where is the $15bn+ of cash we made last year' + 'we're all way out of our depth') = uh oh.
My role is EMEA wide so the fallout in Europe is hurting, the MENA business is doing well in the part I service but the panic for cash is strong.
The equation is a bit like this:
('we must protect our people' + 'marketing content showing desks at home' + 'videos from group leadership') x ('can only actually think short term' + 'where is the $15bn+ of cash we made last year' + 'we're all way out of our depth') = uh oh.
#62

Good luck mate. Something tells me you'll land on your feet whatever way it goes. Surely BritishExpats owes you a tidy sum for keeping the ME forum going singlehandedly for the last 5 or 6 years (well maybe with the occasional assistance of Millhouse's tiny little baby fingers)?
Millhouse and I are the dreamteam, let's face it.


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Isolate New York City from the US tally, the US would be far lower.
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Good luck mate. Something tells me you'll land on your feet whatever way it goes. Surely BritishExpats owes you a tidy sum for keeping the ME forum going singlehandedly for the last 5 or 6 years (well maybe with the occasional assistance of Millhouse's tiny little baby fingers)?
#67

I'm sorry old boy. Been in your shoes a few times. The downsides of working in AEC. The anxiety is no fun even if I survived. I remember back in 2009 everyone being canned left and right and orders were 1 out of every 3 had to go. Then another mini-cull in 2013. And now there's rumblings of another one this year no matter what the CEO says about how strong the backlog is and I'm thinking I'm too old for this shit.
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The country with the most cases per capita is actually Switzerland, followed by Luxembourg. It makes absolutely no sense to compare the US with countries like Portugal or Italy. A better comparison would be the US and Europe as a whole, since they have about the same population. The US is at 587,173 cases right now vs a combined total of 597,014 for Italy, Spain, France and Germany. A lot more if you add in all the other countries like the UK, Netherlands etc. Death total is 23,841 in the US vs 56,382 combined total for Italy, Spain, France and Germany. Point being it has run riot across Europe and the US. The US hasn't been harder hit than Europe.
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Come on. In the Middle East, rumours of mass sackings occur on a weekly basis. I lost count of the number of times people my rank were "lined up," including once, at a specially convened meeting just to deliver the message, by an extremely senior manager (and a trustworthy one at that) who told us we were out in 6 months come hell or high water and that our contracts had been redone to all finish on the same date to facilitate this. I ended up walking away happy, and under no pressure to leave, several years later. I understand the current context has ratcheted things up but stick to your plan and keep in mind the grapevine is just the grapevine.
#72

Good luck mate , trying to ride this one out is the best thing . I do believe though you're going to see a massive exodus across the board here . Wont be many of us that survive this one long term that's for sure.
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True, good point. Had a positive call with boss in the UK and just had a catch up with a boss here and cuts are coming but fingers crossed. I made it clear I'd take reduced package / hours (lol at the second part of that) or temporary unpaid to protect a job in the long run.
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