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Lord Vader Jun 25th 2010 5:47 pm

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8658186)
har

Kiwilass Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 2

fail

Ok, this is how I understand it. You get 1 point for picking the winner, 3 points for picking the exact score. If you think it will go to penalties and you predict such, you receive 2 points if you pick the winner, if you pick the winner in penalty kicks by the exact score then you get 5 points'? Phaq man, this has more rules than the EU government. Granted, if we didn't have rules we would all be living in trees and throwing poop at each other.

I vote for this. 1 point for predicting the correct result, ei, you guess USA 3 Ghana 0 but the actual score is USA 2 Ghana 1 regardless of how. 3 points for predicting the exact score, ei, USA 3 Ghana 0 in regular time and the actual score is USA 3 Ghana 0. 4 points for predicting the score after extra time, ei, USA 3 Ghana 2 EXT. 5 points for predicting the the USA will win in penalties, ei USA 3 Ghana 2 PENS( no matter how the penalty kicks work out.) If you are going to predict the actual penalty kick results, then why not award for predicting the minute in which the goals are scored. ei, England 1 (Rooney 87) Krauts 0.

Greenhill Jun 25th 2010 11:05 pm

Re: World Cup
 
Greenhill Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 1
Greenhill USA 1 Ghana 2

Greenhill Jun 25th 2010 11:19 pm

Re: World Cup
 
Sorry I had to disappear off [into oblivion] last night..

So, we have one new rule for Penalties, otherwise, the rules for the prediction game are exactly the same as before. I'm going to use Kiwilass's predictions as an example:

Kiwilass Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 2
Kiwilass USA 1 Ghana 0

What Kiwilass has done above is perfectly acceptable. She's hoping that the Uruguay match will end in a draw and that the USA will win. She will get points but only if her predictions are correct at the end of normal play.

Now, if Kiwilass instead intends to predict that the Uruguay match will end with penalties, she needs to predict the actual penalty score (as well as put the word PENS on the end of that prediction). Example:

Kiwilass Uruguay 5 KoreaRepublic 4 PENS
Kiwilass USA 1 Ghana 0

Clematis Jun 26th 2010 12:24 am

Re: World Cup
 
Clematis Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 1
Clematis USA 1 Ghana 0

Is that the idea?

Greenhill Jun 26th 2010 12:34 am

Re: World Cup
 
Perfect :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by Clematis (Post 8658702)

Is that the idea?


Clematis Jun 26th 2010 12:40 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658718)
Perfect :thumbsup:

So when do we have to predict tomorrows (gulp) score?

Oink Jun 26th 2010 1:04 am

Re: World Cup
 
Oink Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 1
Oink USA 0 Ghana 2


My nan wants to play. . . .:rolleyes:

Nan Uruguay 1 KoreaRepublic 1 PENS (Uruguay to win nicely)
Nan USA 0 Ghana 5

Greenhill Jun 26th 2010 1:34 am

Re: World Cup
 
I'll try to post up a request for that after USA game has finished <wondering how many people will go for a loss on penalties :(>


Originally Posted by Clematis (Post 8658735)
So when do we have to predict tomorrows (gulp) score?


Greenhill Jun 26th 2010 1:36 am

Re: World Cup
 
Ah, now that one will flag an error. She can either predict the draw (at the end of extra time) or the result of the penalty shoot-out. So anything with PENS tagged on has to be a penalty win e.g. 7-6.


Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8658777)
Nan Uruguay 1 KoreaRepublic 1 PENS (Uruguay to win nicely)


Lord Vader Jun 26th 2010 1:39 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658609)
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What Kiwilass has done above is perfectly acceptable. She's hoping that the Uruguay match will end in a draw

:blink::confused: maybe i better sit this out.

Greenhill Jun 26th 2010 1:46 am

Re: World Cup
 
The important bit was missed out, it should read "after the end of normal play", what I mean there is after 90 mins of regular time and the additional 30 mins of extra time (but prior to a penalty shoot out).

The complications really come from the football rules for the knockout round. So, instead of 90mins of play we now have four stages each match can go through:-
1. 90 mins of regular time.
2. 30 mins of extra time (if the above ended in a tie)
3. Penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)
4. Sudden-death penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)




Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8658814)
:blink::confused: maybe i better sit this out.


JamesM Jun 26th 2010 3:49 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658609)
Sorry I had to disappear off [into oblivion] last night..

So, we have one new rule for Penalties, otherwise, the rules for the prediction game are exactly the same as before. I'm going to use Kiwilass's predictions as an example:

Kiwilass Uruguay 2 KoreaRepublic 2
Kiwilass USA 1 Ghana 0

What Kiwilass has done above is perfectly acceptable. She's hoping that the Uruguay match will end in a draw and that the USA will win. She will get points but only if her predictions are correct at the end of normal play.

Now, if Kiwilass instead intends to predict that the Uruguay match will end with penalties, she needs to predict the actual penalty score (as well as put the word PENS on the end of that prediction). Example:

Kiwilass Uruguay 5 KoreaRepublic 4 PENS
Kiwilass USA 1 Ghana 0

Thank you I understand fully now :)

JamesM Jun 26th 2010 3:53 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658810)
Ah, now that one will flag an error. She can either predict the draw (at the end of extra time) or the result of the penalty shoot-out. So anything with PENS tagged on has to be a penalty win e.g. 7-6.

So the risk to gaining all those extra points is predicting penalties and the game is won in extra time and you forgo any draw points.

It's actually straight forward.

Alot of points associated with penalties but alot of risk.

What we need to do is work out how many games in the last two World Cup's actually went to penalties???? I think it is safer to just predict normal time results in the long run.

JamesM Jun 26th 2010 3:59 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658822)
The important bit was missed out, it should read "after the end of normal play", what I mean there is after 90 mins of regular time and the additional 30 mins of extra time (but prior to a penalty shoot out).

The complications really come from the football rules for the knockout round. So, instead of 90mins of play we now have four stages each match can go through:-
1. 90 mins of regular time.
2. 30 mins of extra time (if the above ended in a tie)
3. Penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)
4. Sudden-death penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)

Greenhill is doing a difficult job guy's let's try and get through Round 2 and then maybe suggest any refinement's.

JamesM Jun 26th 2010 4:00 am

Re: World Cup
 

Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 8658822)
The important bit was missed out, it should read "after the end of normal play", what I mean there is after 90 mins of regular time and the additional 30 mins of extra time (but prior to a penalty shoot out).

The complications really come from the football rules for the knockout round. So, instead of 90mins of play we now have four stages each match can go through:-
1. 90 mins of regular time.
2. 30 mins of extra time (if the above ended in a tie)
3. Penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)
4. Sudden-death penalty shoot-out (if the above ended in a tie)

I want to add that I think Greenhill should be the next Mayor of Toronto. I think he could sort out the complications surrounding street parking legislation.


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