Where is Siouxie?
#95
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,271
Re: Where is Siouxie?
And the wonderfully named Partick Thistle and Stenhousemuir.
So much better than plain old Chelsea, Spurs or Manchester!
( sorry...off topic)
#97
Re: Where is Siouxie?
I remember the 'pools bloke' knocking on our door once a week and my Dad had nearly always forgotten to have his completed Football pools slip ready by the time he came around.
Funny how I still have this memory from the late 70's but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
Funny how I still have this memory from the late 70's but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
#98
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Re: Where is Siouxie?
Never mind the football results. Hardcore nostalgic listening is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxHa5KaMBcM
#99
Re: Where is Siouxie?
Never mind the football results. Hardcore nostalgic listening is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxHa5KaMBcM
#100
Re: Where is Siouxie?
I remember the 'pools bloke' knocking on our door once a week and my Dad had nearly always forgotten to have his completed Football pools slip ready by the time he came around.
Funny how I still have this memory from the late 70's but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
Funny how I still have this memory from the late 70's but I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.
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#101
Re: Where is Siouxie?
Never mind the football results. Hardcore nostalgic listening is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxHa5KaMBcM
#102
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Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 704
Re: Where is Siouxie?
So that's the end of the thread, I guess. Nothing other than whimsical / irrelevant input anyway, for the last several posts.
I actually did care about the answer to the original premise of the thread. I had my disputes with her, particularly over the "future of Hamilton", whether writ large or small, based on the experiences of my own small tribe. But nothing that couldn't have been settled -- or not, or not quite -- over a coffee or a beer.
If someone who does know what happened is willing to share, I'd appreciate the input via PM.
I actually did care about the answer to the original premise of the thread. I had my disputes with her, particularly over the "future of Hamilton", whether writ large or small, based on the experiences of my own small tribe. But nothing that couldn't have been settled -- or not, or not quite -- over a coffee or a beer.
If someone who does know what happened is willing to share, I'd appreciate the input via PM.
#103
Re: Where is Siouxie?
So that's the end of the thread, I guess. Nothing other than whimsical / irrelevant input anyway, for the last several posts.
I actually did care about the answer to the original premise of the thread. I had my disputes with her, particularly over the "future of Hamilton", whether writ large or small, based on the experiences of my own small tribe. But nothing that couldn't have been settled -- or not, or not quite -- over a coffee or a beer.
If someone who does know what happened is willing to share, I'd appreciate the input via PM.
I actually did care about the answer to the original premise of the thread. I had my disputes with her, particularly over the "future of Hamilton", whether writ large or small, based on the experiences of my own small tribe. But nothing that couldn't have been settled -- or not, or not quite -- over a coffee or a beer.
If someone who does know what happened is willing to share, I'd appreciate the input via PM.
I suppose it may seem that way with a bit of thread drift going on. However it also does something to keep the query on the main page at the same time in its way.
Perhaps ask BE Admin direct although they are not required to explain their actions : or maybe PM to DandNHill and ask to forward a message to Siouxie.
What I can say is that when someone is banned , be that a temp sit on the mat or a perm ban, there will have been a ban message giving the clear and full reason for the ban. There is recourse to that via the Contact Me form. Admin will then choose to - ignore - mediate - refuse - re-instate.
What I can also state is that perm bans are/or were considered a very last resort. The usual routine is to PM to mediate/ request moderation in a moderating & reasoning way ; then progress to a warning or 3 that there would/could be a sit out ; then a sit out on the naughty step - perhaps more than once and sometimes even several times - and then a final perm ban.
Now. I am not saying at all this is what happened & I do not at all know what happened here . Nor am I obliquely suggesting any cause or reasoning from either side. I am simply placing this in the absence of anything else .
#104
Re: Where is Siouxie?
I suppose it may seem that way with a bit of thread drift going on. However it also does something to keep the query on the main page at the same time in its way.
Perhaps ask BE Admin direct although they are not required to explain their actions : or maybe PM to DandNHill and ask to forward a message to Siouxie.
What I can say is that when someone is banned , be that a temp sit on the mat or a perm ban, there will have been a ban message giving the clear and full reason for the ban. There is recourse to that via the Contact Me form. Admin will then choose to - ignore - mediate - refuse - re-instate.
What I can also state is that perm bans are/or were considered a very last resort. The usual routine is to PM to mediate/ request moderation in a moderating & reasoning way ; then progress to a warning or 3 that there would/could be a sit out ; then a sit out on the naughty step - perhaps more than once and sometimes even several times - and then a final perm ban.
Now. I am not saying at all this is what happened & I do not at all know what happened here . Nor am I obliquely suggesting any cause or reasoning from either side. I am simply placing this in the absence of anything else .
Perhaps ask BE Admin direct although they are not required to explain their actions : or maybe PM to DandNHill and ask to forward a message to Siouxie.
What I can say is that when someone is banned , be that a temp sit on the mat or a perm ban, there will have been a ban message giving the clear and full reason for the ban. There is recourse to that via the Contact Me form. Admin will then choose to - ignore - mediate - refuse - re-instate.
What I can also state is that perm bans are/or were considered a very last resort. The usual routine is to PM to mediate/ request moderation in a moderating & reasoning way ; then progress to a warning or 3 that there would/could be a sit out ; then a sit out on the naughty step - perhaps more than once and sometimes even several times - and then a final perm ban.
Now. I am not saying at all this is what happened & I do not at all know what happened here . Nor am I obliquely suggesting any cause or reasoning from either side. I am simply placing this in the absence of anything else .
Obviously no one knows what has happened "behind closed doors" - emails, PMs, etc.. But as far as any of us can see Siouxie was just given the final permanent ban hammer one day, never to return. She didn't even get a "time out." And her post history does not indicate anything untoward. So my guess is someone (or multiple) on the admin/mod team had a tussle with her and let their pride get to the best of them.
I agree BEVS when you were site lead things would have been done as you said in a fair manner. But unfortunately under the current leadership, as well as the ever changing IB guidelines and rules, things seem to be different now.
This was a better, more lively place when Sue and Paul were running the show, and when you stepped up in to their shoes. It's been on a downward spiral ever since IB bought it. Not that that really has anything to do with the members, or the site leadership.
I definitely think that ordinary, long-contributing members should have more of a say in admin/moderation decisions especially when it comes to long term members that clearly no one wanted banned. And maybe when it comes time for new site leadership/moderators, it shouldn't be just the existing mods and IB who decide it - members should be given a chance to vote via poll, kind of like a mini BE election of sorts.
Bottom line - more transparency is required from the admin and moderation team, and IB. The current state of affairs and secrecy regime of the admins and IB will not bring BE back to the community it once was, it will only drive long time contributors like us away and wither the site out of existence.
#105
Re: Where is Siouxie?
Bottom line - more transparency is required from the admin and moderation team, and IB. The current state of affairs and secrecy regime of the admins and IB will not bring BE back to the community it once was, it will only drive long time contributors like us away and wither the site out of existence.
I've been a mod under Sue, BEVS and now Bob, and nothing has changed in that time, the same would have happened under any previous admin.
And a gentle reminder of Site Rule 15. Please just PM us with any issues in the future, ta muchly.
Last edited by christmasoompa; Feb 23rd 2022 at 3:47 pm.