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Old Feb 23rd 2022 | 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
With respect it doesn't involve you so there's no reason for us to give you all the details. I'm sure the members in question would be horrified if we shared their private business on the forum.

I've been a mod under Sue, BEVS and now Bob, and nothing has changed in that time, the same would have happened under any previous admin.

And a gentle reminder of Site Rule 15. Please just PM us with any issues in the future, ta muchly.
I have no response to this other then this is the exact attitude that prompted my post above and other posts like it shared in other areas of the forum by other members.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2022 | 4:22 pm
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I'm curious of the definition of sketchiness?
 
Old Feb 23rd 2022 | 5:24 pm
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Default Re: Where is Siouxie?

Originally Posted by Gozit
I have no response to this other then this is the exact attitude that prompted my post above and other posts like it shared in other areas of the forum by other members.
‘The exact attitude’? All I said (in a roundabout way) was that it’s none of your business. If we were to spell out exactly what has gone on and give details then the members involved would be very upset with us I’m sure. We simply can’t win whatever we do but it’s not an ‘attitude’, it’s just respecting confidentiality.

We’ve never given details when members have been banned other than to those directly involved. Nothing has changed.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2022 | 11:45 pm
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I understand the confidentiality of other members, but I think everyone just finds it a complete mystery, as none of her posts leading up to her ban were provocational or of insulting behaviour to other members.

Also Siouxie wasn't just some casual member, she was a huge part of this site, she was a long standing member on here for years. She was a moderator, which changed, so maybe that's where the disagreements behind the scenes could have started. Then out of nowhere, she is permanently banned......that's pretty severe in anyone's book. I'm sure she was blindsided by that as many on here are. I think that is what Gozit was getting at, it doesn't add up. I am sure we will never know, as with many other things in life.

I will say though, I think she is very much missed on here just by being so helpful to so many.
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 1:30 am
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Default Re: Where is Siouxie?

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
I understand the confidentiality of other members, but I think everyone just finds it a complete mystery, as none of her posts leading up to her ban were provocational or of insulting behaviour to other members.

Also Siouxie wasn't just some casual member, she was a huge part of this site, she was a long standing member on here for years. She was a moderator, which changed, so maybe that's where the disagreements behind the scenes could have started. Then out of nowhere, she is permanently banned......that's pretty severe in anyone's book. I'm sure she was blindsided by that as many on here are. I think that is what Gozit was getting at, it doesn't add up. I am sure we will never know, as with many other things in life.

I will say though, I think she is very much missed on here just by being so helpful to so many.
Well said !
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 2:09 am
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Yes she is much missed. The BE Experience just isn't the same without her.
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 2:27 am
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Perhaps there might have been stuff happening via private messages, which would obviously not be public to anyone, and then things get reported to the mod / admin team and then some kind of action is usually taken. There are always going to be some who think the moderation / administration of a forum is too strict / loose / whatever. Modding a forum is a thankless task, and takes a lot of time and effort, and is usually unpaid. One thing I will say, is that "Tachy Goes To Coventry" is a very nice thing to have
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by sharkus
Perhaps there might have been stuff happening via private messages, which would obviously not be public to anyone, and then things get reported to the mod / admin team and then some kind of action is usually taken. There are always going to be some who think the moderation / administration of a forum is too strict / loose / whatever. Modding a forum is a thankless task, and takes a lot of time and effort, and is usually unpaid. One thing I will say, is that "Tachy Goes To Coventry" is a very nice thing to have
Thank you for being the voice of reason. As a former Super Mod for many years, it is often a thankless task but a rewarding one as well and I was honored to have been a part of team.

As you said, as have other Super Mods and Mods on this thread, actions are determined privately between admin and member.

One person does not make or break a forum. They can enhance it or bring it down but the forum goes regardless. Continue to participate and enjoy and educate yourself here on BE.
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Oink
I'm curious of the definition of sketchiness?
I'm curious to know why you are curious?
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Rete
Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Everyone is a voice of reason Rete. Everyone ( unless a troll or spam) . To suggest otherwise is a bit insulting to existing members that are questioning as is their right to do so . It is their community after all
I understand your leanings here however everyone is equally entitled to their voice within the Site Rules . That is BE.

Originally Posted by Rete
As you said, as have other Super Mods and Mods on this thread, actions are determined privately between admin and member.
So. Point of order here. There are only 2 posts by a current mod squad/ admin member & that has been by the ever succinct Oomps & subsequent to Gozits posts. That is all.
Actions - the better word is actually 'sanctions' - are not always determined as you have written. They are more as I have written. The person was banned. They did not choose to leave.

Originally Posted by Rete
One person does not make or break a forum. They can enhance it or bring it down but the forum goes regardless. .
No-one has suggested this as far as I can see. One looks to the overall health of a community. as a whole. It should not be other than this. People are writing that they cannot see a reason for a long time member , and one that was considered good enough to be a mod by Sue , to have been given a perm ban without recourse. It is this that perhaps needs to be addressed in some way. What I see is that many folks did not see Siouxie as a pain in the bum regardless of whether they agreed with her or not. They cannot see trolling , agitation or a breaking of site rules. Hence the issue here.

You may remember the incursion by TIO/Lounge into the Spain forum. They trolled - and that is what they did for their own fun - and given the Site Rules should have been banned, but it would not have been for the good of the General area ( power posters) so diplomacy and mediation was the order of the day. Sometimes it just takes words. Lots of words Moderation. There is a need to be neutral.

Originally Posted by sharkus
One thing I will say, is that "Tachy Goes To Coventry" is a very nice thing to have
HeHe. HeHeHe. You gotta get that in quick though otherwise no good.

Originally Posted by Oink
I'm curious of the definition of sketchiness?
Originally Posted by JamesM
I am curious why you are curious
It is intriguing.

 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 11:13 pm
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My theory is that jsmth was a sock.
 
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Detrimental comments about former members who can't defend themselves - distateful.
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Detrimental comments about former members who can't defend themselves - distateful.

If you're talking about Siouxie, she reads the thread and is in contact with various posters by other social media. The channel is there.

The departed poster I'd most like to hear from is ultratunner (assuming ultratunner was a discreet entity and not the creation of some jolly japester).
 
Old Feb 24th 2022 | 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
Detrimental comments about former members who can't defend themselves - distateful.
And that's exactly why we're not going to go in to details. Some forum members may feel 'blindsided' by this decision and not see a reason for it. Other forum members are well aware of what has gone on. The bottom line is that those who have been taken by surprise have no need to know the reasons, and we won't be sharing them publicly out of respect for everybody involved. We've never shared the reasons behind bans before, and I can't see any reason why that would change now.



 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
If you're talking about Siouxie, she reads the thread and is in contact with various posters by other social media. The channel is there.

The departed poster I'd most like to hear from is ultratunner (assuming ultratunner was a discreet entity and not the creation of some jolly japester).
Let's try again.

Who can't defend themselves - on here.
 


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