When in your 30's and you realize......
#76
Lots of people do. One parent works, one stays home. Seems a sensible arrangement to me, no piss taking involved. In fact, I think there's a case that an arrangement whereby both parents work and they farm out the child rearing results in neither parent being committed to his or her job.
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Wait...but you are forgetting that the option to have kid(s) will always be a voluntary one, and you shouldn't expect anyone else or the state to pay for your child.
Really?
Being a parent is NOT a job, it's a personal choice and most people manage to parent, work full-time job and do school on the side. So if many can do this, thsi ones that choose to stay home without a kid with disabilty, are either work shy or just taking the piss.
Are you effing serious????
Imagine if there was no child support or alimony...you think people will choose to stay home?
Really?
Being a parent is NOT a job, it's a personal choice and most people manage to parent, work full-time job and do school on the side. So if many can do this, thsi ones that choose to stay home without a kid with disabilty, are either work shy or just taking the piss.
Are you effing serious????
Imagine if there was no child support or alimony...you think people will choose to stay home?
Troll on.
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Wait...but you are forgetting that the option to have kid(s) will always be a voluntary one, and you shouldn't expect anyone else or the state to pay for your child.
Being a parent is NOT a job, it's a personal choice and most people manage to parent, work full-time job and do school on the side. So if many can do this, thsi ones that choose to stay home without a kid with disabilty, are either work shy or just taking the piss.
Imagine if there was no child support or alimony...you think people will choose to stay home?
Being a parent is NOT a job, it's a personal choice and most people manage to parent, work full-time job and do school on the side. So if many can do this, thsi ones that choose to stay home without a kid with disabilty, are either work shy or just taking the piss.
Imagine if there was no child support or alimony...you think people will choose to stay home?
The option to have kids is absolutely not always voluntary at all.
What about women/girls in abusive relationships? Or in some societies the fact is that the woman stays home and has children or faces dire consequences? Where a woman is pregnant after being raped and has no way to get an abortion? Is that personal choice?
Staying home being a parent is absolutely a job - if said parent(s) employs someone else to look after the child then I'm pretty sure that person gets paid for the task.
In some cases a parent may land in a situation where they cannot earn enough money to cover the cost of childcare. So they have to stay home and look after them.
Or as dbd has said one parent stays home and the other works - no state help involved.
As for those parents who work full-time, parent full-time and do school on the side too - is that child hiding under the desk at work/whilst the parent is at school until they are school age?
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Her and husband have been together since the girl was 7 or 8. Her mom had custody so she only visited her dad a few times a year for a week.
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Wow, what a ridiculous generalization and lack of empathy.
The option to have kids is absolutely not always voluntary at all.
What about women/girls in abusive relationships? Or in some societies the fact is that the woman stays home and has children or faces dire consequences? Where a woman is pregnant after being raped and has no way to get an abortion? Is that personal choice?
Staying home being a parent is absolutely a job - if said parent(s) employs someone else to look after the child then I'm pretty sure that person gets paid for the task.
In some cases a parent may land in a situation where they cannot earn enough money to cover the cost of childcare. So they have to stay home and look after them.
Or as dbd has said one parent stays home and the other works - no state help involved.
As for those parents who work full-time, parent full-time and do school on the side too - is that child hiding under the desk at work/whilst the parent is at school until they are school age?:huh:
The option to have kids is absolutely not always voluntary at all.
What about women/girls in abusive relationships? Or in some societies the fact is that the woman stays home and has children or faces dire consequences? Where a woman is pregnant after being raped and has no way to get an abortion? Is that personal choice?
Staying home being a parent is absolutely a job - if said parent(s) employs someone else to look after the child then I'm pretty sure that person gets paid for the task.
In some cases a parent may land in a situation where they cannot earn enough money to cover the cost of childcare. So they have to stay home and look after them.
Or as dbd has said one parent stays home and the other works - no state help involved.
As for those parents who work full-time, parent full-time and do school on the side too - is that child hiding under the desk at work/whilst the parent is at school until they are school age?:huh:
That will be me, and yes I paid for before and after school.....but at least am not sitting on me todd surfing Facebook and expecting society / Govt to pay for a child I decided to bring into this world.
Again, there are many people with kids school age, and they still choose not to work considering they don't have babies anymore, and want someone to pay for their chosen decision.
How is this fair on people working their goolies off (both men and women), who have decided they don't want kids?
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Whatever happened to being self sufficient and pride or better yet going forth and shattering the glass ceiling?
Ghomeshi's lawyer (a female) has two kids and still manages to hold down a demanding job. If she can do it, why can't others (the ones that hate her gut) do it?
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From my experience, the only people that condone / advocate for this behaviour, are those that are themselves staying home even though their kids are older, and just want to live off a spouse.
Whatever happened to being self sufficient and pride or better yet going forth and shattering the glass ceiling?
Ghomeshi's lawyer (a female) has two kids and still manages to hold down a demanding job. If she can do it, why can't others (the ones that hate her gut) do it?
Whatever happened to being self sufficient and pride or better yet going forth and shattering the glass ceiling?
Ghomeshi's lawyer (a female) has two kids and still manages to hold down a demanding job. If she can do it, why can't others (the ones that hate her gut) do it?
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Yup I echo what Shirtback said upthread - Troll on.
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Just to let you know, veggies (Ultrarunner) has left the building, never to darken our door again (with any luck).
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He obviously missed us to go to the trouble of bothering to make a new identity. Couldn't you have restricted him to the Maple Leaf section not let him post in the giving advice bit?
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Let's move on and not give him the attention he craves please.
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I know the veggies poster is gone but meant to post this before he was booted.
I can only speak of those I know where one parent stays home, and they do it simply because the parent who stays home doesnt have the earning power to make high enough income to cover childcare and still have anything reasonable left over to make it worthwhile.
If one income is only going cover the childcare is it not better for the children to have a parent at home?
Growing up I surely would have preffered my parents being home more vs going to daycare like we did most of our younger years.
Looking at childcare prices for this area, and well if your a parent making 13 or 14 hr the entire income nearly would go just to childcare.
I can only speak of those I know where one parent stays home, and they do it simply because the parent who stays home doesnt have the earning power to make high enough income to cover childcare and still have anything reasonable left over to make it worthwhile.
If one income is only going cover the childcare is it not better for the children to have a parent at home?
Growing up I surely would have preffered my parents being home more vs going to daycare like we did most of our younger years.
Looking at childcare prices for this area, and well if your a parent making 13 or 14 hr the entire income nearly would go just to childcare.




