Completely agree, no-one is trying to spoil anyones dreams, however it would be totally unrealistic fr anyone who's been here to sugar coat everythng.

In fact a lot of the day to day hiccups that you take in your stride in the UK are amplified here due to lack of support network / knowledge of local contractors or help services.

Tanja without looking into your previos posts etc I don't know whether you are in Canada or not - but of you are then i'll wager you haven't been here that long and had to go through something shitty.

As ER said - not hypocritical just out and out truthful.

The two people that spring to mind, that I would reccomend anyone talk to about the downsides of life here would be LancashireBird and AmyDavid. Both are very happy here, but if Canada were a person - then both of these ladies would want to duck its head under water and not let it up until it promised to make life a little easier

and you know what......................NOT one of us blame canada or the canadian people for our problems
You are so right about the ups and downs and what seems little in the uk seems massive here, drama in one's life would be washed over in the uk, but being so many miles away look worse...........
OMG have i had my paddy's on here, lost the plot afew times this year, but i have had cause to do it, but i close the door and move on.................
I have wrote about a few things on here, but my FB friends know the hassle that me and mine have gone through, we also help each other on a day to day basis as well.
I would say if i hadnt had my network around me, i would also be in lala land by now. Amydavid is so sweet, BUT OMG has she been through the mill, but she is there for her kids and OH, mandy has also been through a hell of a year, but she is one women

WE made the choice to move here, canada has some funny laws, canada does ur head in from time to time, but you know what "YOU" make the choice to move here, canada doesnt force you
Pick yourself up and get on with it, dont try and put people off a country because it hasnt worked for you. Would love to hear your OH side

Well, excuse me! I'm a poppet. You seem to be suggesting that I'm an aggressive, pedantic wind-up merchant.

I don't think he's suggesting it.

You turn your back for a minute and people start saying nice things about you. Not sure about the voice of reason though, I had hoped to be more interesting than reasonable. I don't really say what I think, I hold back and wish I was more forthright...

I've met Novo, he's a pussycat.

Anyway, what sucks about this forum? The really spiteful personal attacks that emanate from a choice few who can't seem to grasp the idea that others are allowed to have different opinions.

I'dve said, an old buffer. Certainly way less intimidating than his online persona. Mind you most people, 'in the flesh' are usually pretty normal. Even dbd33.

I agree with what you have written apart from..

I did blame Canada and Canadians for a while, I was very depressed and close to a breakdown. It's hard to see reason then, to see the wood for the trees. We see some heart rending posts on here and I think that we should be a little more understanding of the possible reasons why people post what they do. Look beyond the words and read the subtext. Some are screaming out for some understanding and support. At the time I posted on here and had some replies that were downright cruel and when you are low they really do hurt. Some of the replies though were thoughtful and stated the truth which was hard to read but not hard on the psyche.

These days I like my life. I like the house we have, the place I work, the people I work with. This is where I live and for now I have no wish to go back to England, for now.

I don't hold with this bizarre notion that immigrants are not allowed to criticise anything about Canada. I live here, I contribute to society here and don't see why I should sit back and doff my cap to all things Canadian. If all immigrants had done that then there would be diversity, no multi culturalism. If I feel the need to seek out Jaffa Cakes and gammon that isn't disliking Canada. How long are you expected to live here before you can say anything negative???

Seeing everything in a rosy glow is not the mindset of a reasonable person.

Would explain his obsession with boots.

I meant that I don't just reply to MB people, rather than my expertise being worldwide. I know my limitations...

Seeing everything rosy isnt always good, but looking at things different really does help, when you are in a dark place things look at there worst, CC doesnt need people covering over stuff he needs help, but the guy doesnt say where he is, he gives half a story, how can anyone help, he needs to offer a branch............................
But he also needs to start to help himself, he is very welcome to PM me, he needs support and he needs help
I know people who love it here, i also know people who have moved back to the uk as it didnt work for them, but i believe that we should all support each other when we need it...............
Hugs to you hun
LB

North Americans in general (both Canadians and Americans) prefer and encourage a positive outlook on life. So even if there's bad times you find a way of coping and getting by.


North Americans will usually avoid whiners and complainers so it doesn't help in making friends and building networks.

I really dont think this forum is significantly different to how it was 5 years ago, people come and go, but the overall feel is about the same.

What changes is peoples perception and use of it I suspect, going from fear of the unknown, to optimism about a new experience, to the excitement of finally getting here, and them the realisation that much of day to day living is the same. Then there are the other bumps along the road that can happen wherever you live, changes in your personal circumstances, all of which will alter how you see things.

I agree with FMs comment earlier, personal attacks just because you dont agree with someone (or for any other reason) are totally unacceptable. I get tired of the constant sniping from the peanut gallery too, but there is only so much we can do. All I would say is if you see something offensive and out of line, report the post {! button}, that will bring it to the attention of the mod team, especially over the holiday season when its less likely the mods will see it for themselves.

Why where are you going..............OMG you cant have a day off
You have trolls to catch

Bullies and petty people...if some one posts an incorrect piece of info, let it go why start acting like a know it all and then intimidating other posters...to go on the advice of a internet forum is silly to begin with...you should always double check with the embassy or a lawyer...also there are a number of bum chums on here who gladly hijack genuine posters threads and start acting stupid and the original poster never gets the answers they need or someone gets attacked for no reason and the post goes off track and becomes rubbish...

I used to like posting on the site but am not really into it anymore as more and more people are just getting more and more petty....and i cant be bothered to deal with people attacking me or anyone else for that matter for no real reason...

I'm in total agreement with you Flash, it gets tiresome doesn't it? All that rah rah, 'make the most of life', 'you can do anything' etc etc. It gets right on your nerves. They could do with a bit more of a realistic outlook instead of that all that nauseatingly saccharine positivism.