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Sep 30th 2011 | 4:22 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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On the contrary - what we all think about the capital punishment laws is at the very heart of this thread's debate.

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Not in Iraq it isn't

Sep 30th 2011 | 4:25 am

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Not in Iraq it isn't

Why, is the universal declaration of human rights different in Iraq

Sep 30th 2011 | 4:27 am

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What people think about laws is what leads them to be adopted in the first place, or subsequently changed. Laws get changed all the time, I would have thought that as a lawyer you would have realised that.

It must be nice to live in a moral vacuum where you dont have any opinions on "right and wrong", although it must make for dull Friday afternoons.

Of course I realise that.

For the record, so as to avoid any doubt, I have no issue with the likes of Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Mladic, etc. being put to death. I really don't. Call it bloodlust, revenge, justice, whatever you wish to, I really don't care. I sleep in a very comfortable fashion each and every night.

I'll leave the debate as to what type of person I am and how civilised I am to those that think it worthy of debate.

Sep 30th 2011 | 4:29 am

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Why, is the universal declaration of human rights different in Iraq

According to Iraqi law it is.

How you do reconcile wishing to impose your wishes on Iraqis with your objection to the West "invading" Iraqi so as to overthrow a dictator? Is one any more justified that the other? Are they not attempting to benefit the Iraqi people (setting aside the incompetent way the "invasion" was handled?

Sep 30th 2011 | 4:40 am

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According to Iraqi law it is.

Yes, the law is immutable. It wasn't wrong to burn women at the stake or drown them because they might be witches because it was the law.

Sep 30th 2011 | 4:41 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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According to Iraqi law it is.

Its a UNIVERSAL declaration, Iraq signed up to the UN articles in 1948.

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How you do reconcile wishing to impose your wishes on Iraqis with your objection to the West "invading" Iraqi so as to overthrow a dictator?

Same way I reconcile wishing to impose my views with regard to capital punishment on the Americans, the Chinese, the Japanese etc ad nauseum.

It simply wrong to take any human life in cold blood. I sleep fine at night too, (unless shes snoring

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Sep 30th 2011 | 6:52 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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Yes, the law is immutable. It wasn't wrong to burn women at the stake or drown them because they might be witches because it was the law.

Was that ever a law, I thought that was just mob rule? Didn't Denning have anything to say about it; perish the thought

Tell you what, nip over to Iraq and tell them that they are all neanderthals and that the laws of the West are far superior. Take a picture of Mr. Trudeau and a copy of the Charter and tell them that he is the epitome of a decent chap and that they should all embrace all that he had to say.

Different strokes, different folks and all that.

Sep 30th 2011 | 6:53 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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Its a UNIVERSAL declaration, Iraq signed up to the UN articles in 1948.

Same way I reconcile wishing to impose my views with regard to capital punishment on the Americans, the Chinese, the Japanese etc ad nauseum.

It simply wrong to take any human life in cold blood. I sleep fine at night too, (unless shes snoring

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So, the UN, with its headquarters in the US, bans judicial executions does it? Has anyone told the US, Russia or China?

Sep 30th 2011 | 6:58 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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I said nothing about criminals. I don't believe one should execute people for stealing a bottle of water but I don't believe there is much amiss with executing those that have killed more than the digits most people have on their hands and feet. Maybe it would be better to simply execute them when they resist capture. Shit, can't do that, been tried and the public outcry was too much.

The old days were much better, then one could gas an entire district without so much as grumble (Hussein not Hitler)

Will you be the one who pulls the lever?

Sep 30th 2011 | 8:08 am

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Will you be the one who pulls the lever?

I wouldn't expect anyone to do anything I wouldn't be prepared to do myself, otherwise I would be guitly of Bono Syndrome so, the answer is: yes

Having said that, hanging is a little inhumane, a round to the head would be much better.

Sep 30th 2011 | 11:25 am

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It's easy to be hard on a discussion board isn't it, AC?

Sep 30th 2011 | 11:47 am

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Re: Troy Davis execution

Alright...for all you Bono haters, at least he is out there doing it and raising the awareness. What are others of that elk doing? F'all, unless they have a movie / album coming out. Bill Gates and Melinda also do their bit, and God bless them both. You don't read about Melinda coming out of some fancy restaurant exposing her knickers or t1t$, or walking down some red carpet

The guy has swagger and is the king of cool

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Sep 30th 2011 | 1:26 pm

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Re: Troy Davis execution

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I'm afraid I've no idea who Melinda is. Bono however, is the planet's biggest wanker, partly for the reasons cited by AC and partly because the wearing of sunglasses indoors is absurd.