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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9206416)
Actually, and just to out my inner geek, wouldn't it be wonderful if the only four teams in the EPL starting with "W" ended up in the last four spots this year?
I've been toying with calculating the odds of the Premiership finishing in alphabetical order, but this is beyond even my immense talents. Over to you. In theory the best way to do it would be to go to a book makers and get the odds for each team finishing in that specific place. One would then have to multiply them together. It would be close to infinitive. That's as good as a go as I'll have. |
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
The mathematical probability of it happening (ignoring form and everything else that differentiates the teams) is 1 in 2,432,902,008,176,640,000.
That is: 2 quintillion,432 quadrillion,902 trillion,8 billion,176 million and 640 thousand to 1. As for the maximum odds from a bookmaker, if I recall correctly, any winnings of this nature are capped. So, even if you name all 20 teams in the correct order, and begin to multiply the odds [the bookmaker gave you] together, the payout will not exceed the cap (it might have been £500k, last time I checked). I think the bookmakers also use some clever calculation which takes into account a "knock on effect" that influences odds. Say, for example, there are only two teams in a league:- Team A is 1/1 to win Team B is 1/2 to get placed second. A bookmaker will let you do either bet but, if you combine them into a forecast then the odds will be reduced, simply because backing Team A to win already implies that Team B will be second place. It's been a number of years since I've looked at anything like this but I'm sure there's someone amongst us who can confirm? Anyway, if that's correct then there'd be ever-diminishing odds throughout the calculation of the permutation bet (in other words, an uncapped payout for naming 20 teams in order would probably not be very much more than an uncapped payout for naming the top 16 teams in order.)
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9206416)
I've been toying with calculating the odds of the Premiership finishing in alphabetical order, but this is beyond even my immense talents.
Over to you. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 9208731)
The mathematical probability of it happening (ignoring form and everything else that differentiates the teams) is 1 in 2,432,902,008,176,640,000.
An easy problem after all. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
It's time we had a bump on this thread.
On Tuesday ManUre come to St. James' Park after being beaten by Citeh today. For all prawn sandwich munchers everywhere I thought it would be kind to post this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcOHvHKX3DA 15 years is but a blink to your average Toon fan. 1 year is an eternity if you're from Blackpool though. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Actually i have enjoyed the pool games this season, seeing them on TV every week has been very enjoyable, win or loose. :p
Will they stay up? I doubt it very much, but the cash injection into Bloomfield Road has been very welcoming. We may now actually have a stadium fit for the Championship. Something we did not have 1 year ago. |
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Just thought I'd add. :thumbup:
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 9310347)
Actually i have enjoyed the pool games this season, seeing them on TV every week has been very enjoyable, win or loose. :p
Will they stay up? I doubt it very much, but the cash injection into Bloomfield Road has been very welcoming. We may now actually have a stadium fit for the Championship. Something we did not have 1 year ago. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9310462)
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 9208731)
The mathematical probability of it happening (ignoring form and everything else that differentiates the teams) is 1 in 2,432,902,008,176,640,000.
That is: 2 quintillion,432 quadrillion,902 trillion,8 billion,176 million and 640 thousand to 1. As for the maximum odds from a bookmaker, if I recall correctly, any winnings of this nature are capped. So, even if you name all 20 teams in the correct order, and begin to multiply the odds [the bookmaker gave you] together, the payout will not exceed the cap (it might have been £500k, last time I checked). I think the bookmakers also use some clever calculation which takes into account a "knock on effect" that influences odds. Say, for example, there are only two teams in a league:- Team A is 1/1 to win Team B is 1/2 to get placed second. A bookmaker will let you do either bet but, if you combine them into a forecast then the odds will be reduced, simply because backing Team A to win already implies that Team B will be second place. It's been a number of years since I've looked at anything like this but I'm sure there's someone amongst us who can confirm? Anyway, if that's correct then there'd be ever-diminishing odds throughout the calculation of the permutation bet (in other words, an uncapped payout for naming 20 teams in order would probably not be very much more than an uncapped payout for naming the top 16 teams in order.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUsD2V6ijyQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxhx...eature=related This guy is insane! |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9310551)
Very magn-umpi-animous. :)
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by CaptainHook
(Post 9311387)
This one's better viewed on YouTube, where you can read the info underneath.
Those were the good ol' days.......... I hear Kenny Dalglish told Wenger where to go on Sunday............ |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 9314044)
Begkamp, Viera, Pires.
Those were the good ol' days.......... I hear Kenny Dalglish told Wenger where to go on Sunday............ |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9309512)
On Tuesday ManUre come to St. James' Park after being beaten by Citeh today.
http://www.soccertvlive.net/watch/60...er-united.html |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Partially discharged
(Post 9314687)
That's our 40 points then: I can start to look forward to next year's premiership with confidence. Jolly good. |
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