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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 11778125)
nope... It being a lot closer to it than just reading the media
I will be back working in eastern Europe 1st week of November Try being in the shoes of those nations hosting the migrants :unsure: Still I noticed neither of you did answer Shard's question.. |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11777853)
This sounds like backed into a corner to me...
This executive summary will show that significant changes have been noted since VASyR 2014, which highlights the dynamic nature of refugee HHs’ characteristics and living conditions in Lebanon. For instance the refugees face severe restrictions on accessing the Lebanese labour market, their assets and savings are increasingly exhausted, their debts are mounting and they must fulfil specific and costly requirements to renew their legal stay in Lebanon. Lebanon and the refugees it is hosting are in a very delicate state the situation requires special and immediate measures. Each day represents a monumental struggle to meet the most basic needs and families are increasingly faced with using negative coping mechanisms to do so. Their need for assistance is growing in parallel with the reductionof available funds.They are living in a stressful context with no way out. From: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees...ad.php?id=9645 Would you be able to survive in such conditions for four years, with no end in sight? I know I wouldn't. What would you do if you were in such a camp, would you stay? Policies, measures and programmes oriented towards allowing refugees to generate income while protecting the Lebanese labour market and mitigating potential tensions with the host community are recommended. Reducing the number of HHs targeted for assistance is likely to lead to a further deterioration of the food security situation: dependency on external assistance must be tackled at the same time.The extended and continued inadequacy of infant and young child feeding practices requires a causal analysis to better understand the factors leading to it. Programmes must be directed at tackling the identified causes and ensuring effective beahvioural change. Although sensitization on adequate feeding practices is recommended, other potential causes should be considered to ensure effective behavioural change. Overall, an upscale of programmatic interventions to cover the growing needs of the refugees is recommended. Given the significant differences between districts in the same region any geographical targeting should be applied at a lower geographical level. Systems to identify and recognize these pockets will ensure an appropriate and fair level of assistance to vulnerable HHs regardless of their location. Supporting the refuges in the host countries appears to be the recommendation. |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by paw339
(Post 11778064)
Just because someone criticises Merkel's "open door" policy doesn't mean they don't have empathy or sympathy. Chaos always has consequences. Right from the beginning I've been worried about the loss of tolerance, compassion and rising violence that doesn't mean I have no Sympathy, it just means I would try and help differently. Just yesterday there was a terrible incident in Sweden. Did you know you can seriously help at least 10 families directly in the middle east for the same cost of helping one family in the west? What about all the people and children that continue to die on their way to Germany?
Germany 'to deport economic migrants in military transport planes' - Telegraph |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11777853)
This sounds like backed into a corner to me...
From: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees...ad.php?id=9645 Would you be able to survive in such conditions for four years, with no end in sight? I know I wouldn't. What would you do if you were in such a camp, would you stay? In part because stepping out of the pan into the fire is not a smart solution would I have left legally long before it got to this shit tip.... probably |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11778214)
You live in the UK don't you? Even our local town here in Ontario is planning to host a Syrian refugee family...
Still I noticed neither of you did answer Shard's question.. Answered for you now... and does the UK plan to take any European Migrants..... NO!!!! zero, none, not one!!! we'll take ours (genuine) from the UN refugee camps |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 11778225)
Looks like the door may be closing slightly...
Germany 'to deport economic migrants in military transport planes' - Telegraph Flüchtlingskrise: CSU und SPD erhöhen Druck auf Kanzlerin Merkel - DIE WELT |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 11778411)
Probably just as the majority do, would I like it No!, would I think illegal immigration, people smugglers,black market labour a solution.... No!
In part because stepping out of the pan into the fire is not a smart solution would I have left legally long before it got to this shit tip.... probably |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11778805)
There's that "privilege" again.. Thinking that legally might actually be an option...
Logic........... Its an ex-pat site It's an option most if not all of us have undertaken at least once :confused: |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11778805)
.. Thinking that legally might actually be an option...
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 11778895)
Duh !? :huh:
Logic........... Its an ex-pat site It's an option most if not all of us have undertaken at least once :confused: |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 11778935)
Yes it is an option for Brits. But some countries have exit restrictions. Syria included.
not aware there are any............:blink: |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 11778939)
We're talking about emigration from UNHCR zone's in places like Turkey and Lebanon
not aware there are any............:blink: would I have left legally long before it got to this shit tip.... probably |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 11778895)
Duh !? :huh:
Logic........... Its an ex-pat site It's an option most if not all of us have undertaken at least once :confused: This comic article I think is excellent at demonstrating "privilege"... This Brilliant Comic Strip On Rich Vs Poor Upbringing Will Humble You |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
The parts of the solution do not include encouraging people to pay criminals to cross the open sea in little boats.
So what is the solution? Obviously, all countries with influence must step up efforts to end to the Syrian war. But until there is peace, the countries hosting four million refugees must receive the infrastructure and development support they need while fully funding UNHCR and partner organisations to provide for the basic needs for refugees. We continue to advocate for employment schemes to allow refugees to earn and contribute to local labour markets. At the same time, refugees must be offered more legal avenues to reach safety in the world’s richer countries through increased resettlement quotas, more flexible family reunification schemes and humanitarian and student visas. Syrian refugees would certainly then think twice before leaving their region and risking their lives on a journey to Europe. Six reasons why Syrians are fleeing to Europe in increasing numbers | Global Development Professionals Network | The Guardian |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11778968)
And how many Brits don't get the option to immigrate... A fair few lack the education and resources to make the move to another.. now try changing the UK to Syria and imagine the differences..
This comic article I think is excellent at demonstrating "privilege"... This Brilliant Comic Strip On Rich Vs Poor Upbringing Will Humble You yep.... But you might find I fit the Right side much better than you'd like :p |
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
The best comic strip I have seen and so very true. Thanks for posting it.
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11778968)
And how many Brits don't get the option to immigrate... A fair few lack the education and resources to make the move to another.. now try changing the UK to Syria and imagine the differences..
This comic article I think is excellent at demonstrating "privilege"... This Brilliant Comic Strip On Rich Vs Poor Upbringing Will Humble You |
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