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So professor
Please elaborate on your comment "Many of these refugees will probably (be???) health professionals"- putting it in the context of the provision of health care in Canada. What relevance does their profession have? You with such vast knowledge must know that were they to land on these shores, they would be unable to work as health care professionals unless they went back to square one and gain recognised qualifications in Canada. As I am sure that you are aware, there are already hordes of trained health care professionals including working in Mcdonalds, driving taxis- sad I agree but true. Unless you come from countries which are recognised by Canada then all their qualifications are worth diddly squat "old boy".
They would have to start from scratch and sadly though they may have the skills, they would unlikely ever to be able to use them as who will finance their way back through Canadian Medical school or RN courses?

I cite TiryTory as an example, and indeed 99% of nurses- surely you are aware of the massive barriers that she and others have to face and they trained in the UK - she has family who might be able to financially support her quest- that is her business, refugees would realistically not have that opportunity- Who should pay for their retraining??
Unless they completely retrain having come from an unrecognised country with regards to medical/paramedical qualifications your comment holds very little weight and the likelihood of them being able to do this is to be quite honest, remote at best.
You most certainly are not dealing with a fool, I can assure you of that. Part of a physician's vital skills is to listen, and not talk over the patient. There are people contributing to this thread who are actually listening to contra-opinions and responding appropriately. You I fear in my opinion are definitely not included in that more considered group

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I worked for as an administrator for a Physicians Cardiology training program. I received numerous phone calls from physicians who had trained in another country begging me to help them access a program where they could be retrained in Canada. Only a select few ever succeeded in becoming a physician in Canada.

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Latent racism.

Just because somoeone is from Syria does not mean they can't requalify as a health professional here.

Nor does it mean they will end up driving taxis.

And there is nothing wrong with driving taxis anyway.

Jeesh you really don't like minorities hey?

More bumbling assertions.

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The west should be pressuring Saudi Arabia about this:

Saudi Arabia Has 100,000 Empty Tents with AC for 3 Million People – They’ve Taken Zero Refugees | The Free Thought Project

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To be fair to Stinky Pup it isn't racism. It's not a critique on Syrian training or medicine, it's a reflection of what Canadians and their respective components think about other countries training. Given that the Family Physicians of Ontario have only "just" put a reciprocal agreement in place to recognise UK GP training and even that only allows you to skip one exam of three and work under supervision, it is a reflection of what they think of others training. I have no idea whether they have reciprocal agreements in place with anyone else maybe the U.S.

Anyway I feel that given the government aren't really trying to fix the Family Physician shortage and that the amount of refugees spread throughout the provinces is relatively small, that the health system can cope. It might mean a Canadian going without his obligatory yearly medical- heaven forbid;)

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I thought that was only Americans and only in the movies. :lol:

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He flagrantly said that they'd end up driving taxis.

I don't see why someone of Syrian origin can't be a physician in Canada. I've met lots of medical professionals here who have english as a second language and weren't born in western countries.

And I don't view a physician as being any more special than a taxi driver.

When it's last call at Hooters during the winter do you think a physician is going to drive me home?

It's old bigoted thinking. We aspire to have a class free society in Canada and then snobby "expats" turn up.

What amazes me is the audacity of telling others they're arrogant and then coming out and giving people a lecture on the skill sets of one's profession as a Physician. Very odd.

Doctors and Lawyers are very similar. They seek any opportunity to try and tell the world about their self inflated importance.

"I'm right! Let hundred of thousands of people remain in Syria to die! I went to medical school don't you know professor"

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:banghead:

What an amazing reply. Falsely and offensively accuses me of racism and hating minorities- not clear where you got those ideas from , confirms your lack of knowledge with the health are system but to cap it off, confirms my last point perfectly that you listen to no opposing points, you just attack the poster in a typical nasty way unlike people who ave the ability to reasonably discuss the pertinent issues without resort to ranting and offence clearly without true evidence to either back your argument up or evidence to counter a proposition by someone else. A truly offensive post- you have done yourself no justice with that one. I was factual and posed you realistic, yes difficult questions which you completely ignored and simply accused me of racism. Nice!

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I picked up the supposition and presumption thing.

The only real difference was I was able to use things you actually said.

Lesson learned old boy.

I haven't attacked anyone unfortunately since I started on this forum back in 2006. I have seen the occasional victim mentality poster on here.

Congratulations on graduating medical school and being a doctor in Canada. I'm glad you are enjoying the benefits of the education afforded to you by Western society.

So far all I've done is respond to posts accusing me of being "bumbling" "arrogant" "ranting and being called "offensive" etc......I think if you read through I haven't directly called you anything. Oh well........

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Sigh. You're both as bad as each other, please either take your argument to PM or put each other on ignore so as not to derail the thread any further.

Thx.

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Thanks "Fun Sponge". :p

Now what am I supposed to do at work :blink:

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Erm.......radical idea, but how about some work. ;):lol:

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You radicals ruin everything.

My boss loves you though and he doesn't know it.

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You could just stick to Solitaire. That'll show him.

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You are none of those & you know it, in fact no different than anyone else that's been on this thread - its just difference of opinion.

As you will have seen or heard in the media today the local mayor of Toronto announced that the city will not be making a bid for the 2024 Olympics. Just for the application the estimate was $68 million. Of course the gun shy mayor (without corporate backing) also had a call the Ontario premier to say 'no money from the province either'.

Now, the city & corporate sponsors can do all the good will to use that (never spent) $68 million Olympic bid money towards bringing in & housing refugees.

That money, as we know in one way or another is taxpayer money.

Now its the Federal Governments time just days before the election to announce what it will do - dollars & cents wise for this new wave of refugee intake