Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7737662)

And I would prefer to do the opposite - from my (albeit limited) experience, they are the most loyal, friendly bunch of guys I have ever met. and yes these are proper rednecks.

The amount of help I have recieved over my time here from a friend of a friend "just because" is unmentionable.

I would rather hang out with a room full of redneck hunters than any other "stereotypical" group of people.

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7746624)

Well there ya go two thirds red neck already. :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7746817)

Physically 100% redneck today, I've been bush hogging (that is dragging a cutting device behind a tractor) all afternoon. Still not properly redneck though, I didn't hook up a homosexual or a person of colour when I disconnected the cutter.

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7746826)

What's this tractor b*sh*t?:confused::p

Caterpillar D9 if you're going to be clearing bush, and it's called cat skinning out here. My late uncle was a cat skinner for many years clearing siesmic lines for oil companies.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7746845)

It's only the paddock, 3' weeds, not 30' trees.

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7746341)

Well in the case of some calamity (earthquake or tornado perhaps) they could come and put you out of your misery. :p;)

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7746342)

We're grateful for those who have to down escaped zoo animals, though they don't usually use bullets unless tranquilising darts weren't effective. :thumbup:

Originally Posted by claire600 (Post 7898396)

Great clip ;)

Our neighbour gave us Bambi burgers ... then another neighbour offered us baby bear steak - had to politely decline. Don't agree with rabbit snaring either ...


no no not for me thank you

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7898502)

that is a great clip CH hahaha - coyote hunting - yup just for fun mainly though you can use the pelts.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7898619)

mmm no doubt! Shooting coyotes and gophers when there is nothing else to do does seem to be a national pastime here :)

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7898502)

that is a great clip CH hahaha - coyote hunting - yup just for fun mainly though you can use the pelts.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7898558)

They do aim for foxes, just settle for coyotes if they miss.

Originally Posted by sparkling_gal (Post 7898951)

Hi Mandy - I wouldn't fancy trying it myself. I've had a go at clay pigeon shooting though.

What is a gopher?

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7899140)

Another point to raise too when we were talking about the issuance of tags earlier in the thread (tags being what hunters apply for to be allowed to hunt an animal) a percentage of tags will be applied for by the anti-hunting groups, and once awarded will be ceromoniously destroyed as if saying "look heres a little bambis life that I just saved"

When all they are doing is messing up the numbers which are allocated for cull.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7899170)

I liken it to those who protest against things being tested on animals. If you are that much against it, you volunteer to test the product. :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by __TJ__ (Post 7899431)

...in the uk its all too easy to pick up a real one and kill someone

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7899678)

Crikey, where do you live!?!?

I've never seen a real gun in the UK throughout my entire life and don't know anybody who owns one.

Originally Posted by __TJ__ (Post 7899431)

not something i am into, and i didnt let my children play with guns because in the uk its all too easy to pick up a real one and kill someone ( kids seem to do it all the time :thumbdown: ) not something i will be racing to join in with, but i respect the rights of others to enjoy themsleves. i stick bits of special paper together and add photographs, most people dont get scrapbooking ( ok its not an extreeme sport, but a craft knife in the foot can be deadly!) it'd be really boring if we all liked the same things.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7900722)

If you're finding that it's too easy to pick up a real gun, I'd suggest that you change your circle of friends to people who are either responsible gun owners who lock their weapons away (as required by law) or to people who aren't in the drug/gang culture.

I suggest the majority of people in the UK couldn't tell the difference between a real gun, toy gun or a paintball gun unless it was close up or explained to them. We've been conditioned in the UK to think all guns are bad, which is incorrect. GUNS DO NOT SHOOT BY THEMSELVES! It may have been the weapon of choice for a number of crimes, but look at the increase in stabbings. I could walk into Tesco and buy a large bladed kitchen knife, then go and stab someone. What are the government going to do then? Ban kitchen knives. I don't think so.

Originally Posted by sarahandshaun (Post 7907804)

Load chamber, aim, squeeze trigger and the animal drops with hopefully a good clean kill. Butcher as required and put it in your freezer. For many on the forum this will be seen as barbaric and medieval, I however, have no problems with it at all. You know where it came from and how it died. If you wish to mount it on your wall then so be it, perhaps it's better than rotting on the forest floor. Going back to an earlier comment on the excess number of horses. If they're a problem/nuisance, can they be culled and put into the food chain? Sorry Mandy, I know you're a horse lover but farmers globally are struggling to cope with the demand for food. As far as the hunting goes, I'm with you all the way. Just remeber kids-alcohol and weapons don't mix.

Shaun

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7907811)

I thought they did ban the sale of kitchen knives, well to under 18s at least. The thing with a knife is that you really need to be up close and personal to use it. A gun you don't.

Originally Posted by sarahandshaun (Post 7907804)

Going back to an earlier comment on the excess number of horses. If they're a problem/nuisance, can they be culled and put into the food chain?

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7728865)

Mmmm absolutely agree with your points really I do. I suppose though you could equate that reasoning to any sport that involves an animal - there are always 'alternatives'. Take horseracing - if its something fast between your legs you are after - then try motorbikes. :)

FWIW most grizzly hunts are not done from up a tree and some are done with bows and you have to be quite close to them to use that, its the black bears that tend to be hunted from stands.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7907811)

I thought they did ban the sale of kitchen knives, well to under 18s at least. The thing with a knife is that you really need to be up close and personal to use it. A gun you don't.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7911436)

Ah the Hollywood effect! Most people on this forum would be very unlikely to be able to hit a human at a distance of 30 feet with a handgun. At a distance of 100 metres, very few in the world would be able to hit a human with another's rifle as the sights would not have been set for them.

However, John Wayne could, of course, hit an apple off someone's head, riding at full gallop on the back of a horse after picking up an Indian's rifle that he had just killed from a distance of 100 metres will a revolver:thumbsup:

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7912344)

It depends on how close is close. Unless you throw the knife you have to be close enough to make contact, close enough for it to become risky for you, let alone the squeamish factor.

Five feet is distance enough and easy enough to hit.

I could hit a human at 30 feet using a long bow and an arrow, I imagine using a gun with no sights would be similar.

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7912344)

It depends on how close is close. Unless you throw the knife you have to be close enough to make contact, close enough for it to become risky for you, let alone the squeamish factor.

Five feet is distance enough and easy enough to hit.

I could hit a human at 30 feet using a long bow and an arrow, I imagine using a gun with no sights would be similar.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7912459)

You may be able to hit a human at 30 feet with a long bow and an arrow, how many others on this forum could?

I would be prepared to bet that, if you have never handled a handgun before (but if the weapon was loaded, one in the chamber, with the safety off), you would not be able to hit a human target stood 30 feet in front of you if you were using a handgun (not a target shooter's type of handgun, but a regular 9mm type).

Due to the length of the barrel, you would be likely to hit such a target with a rifle.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7911436)

Most people on this forum would be very unlikely to be able to hit a human at a distance of 30 feet with a handgun. At a distance of 100 metres, very few in the world would be able to hit a human with another's rifle as the sights would not have been set for them.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7912459)

You may be able to hit a human at 30 feet with a long bow and an arrow, how many others on this forum could?

I would be prepared to bet that, if you have never handled a handgun before (but if the weapon was loaded, one in the chamber, with the safety off), you would not be able to hit a human target stood 30 feet in front of you if you were using a handgun (not a target shooter's type of handgun, but a regular 9mm type).

Due to the length of the barrel, you would be likely to hit such a target with a rifle.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7912510)

I can appreciate the skill involved, but I bet you needed much more practice to achieve that than the average gang member would spend practicing his aim.

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 7912680)

Join a gun club and pretty soon you will be getting nice close groups at 10- yards. 9mm is a pretty easy shooting round, and there's some pretty accurate pistols out there. The head on a human shaped target would be one ragged hole after 100 rounds have been through it.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7913628)

We threw the rifle back and forth between us yesterday and consistently hit beer cans at 50 yds so I would think something the size of a person at twice that distance would be simple enough.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7913628)

I don't know why you'd be using a handgun on people though, shotguns are more readily available and require less skill.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 7728788)

As its a huge sport in North America and I haven't seen any discussion about it here I thought I would venture into the world of hunting.

It wasn't something that I was in the slightest bit interested in or tbh educated about in the UK so was in the - oh its cruel to just hunt for sport camp.

Now being here in Canada in the boonies, hunting is quite possibly the biggest thing that guys (and girls) partake in between August and April (various seasons for differing types of animal and weapon.

I can see the attraction, and tbh all the guys I know that hunt are very respectful of their surroundings and the limitations on their tags and don't go (too far) beyond the boundries (ok so making your own gate through a hedge with an old farm truck whilst chasing a big whitetail may be something I may have - ahem - seen on an occasion!)

You apply to shoot your animals, you don't just grab a gun and randomly blast away, you do not get 'drawn' for everything you apply for - sometimes it takes years to get drawn for something like a big horn sheep.

So this limits what is shot and keeps the population down which in turn makes for healthy herds in the future.

What are your thoughts on the subject, have any of you ever hunted proper as opposed to taking pot shots at gophers and suchlike, and would it be something that you would consider having a go at.

My personal stance is its exciting, takes a lot of skill and next year will be applying for my own tags if I am practised enough to take a deer with one shot - am currently practising with a bow too.