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Yes:

1 - The government will have to pay professional hunters to hunt
2 - Amateur hunters will pay the government to be allowed to hunt.

Edit: Sorry, that's what you just said.

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The professional armies mentioned however are conscripts, and not really relevant to this

Today we would hire an already skilled hunter, and up-skill him, give him the best tools

This would be more along the lines of taking a Vietcong member and sending him to a specialized military training camp teaching him the techniques of modern warfare and combining it with his natural motivation ,
oh.. and I almost forgot empowering him with government funding….

Osama bin laden, CIA and Saudi funding springs to mind

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1. But the goverment gets to recover the $500's worth of meat per avearge deer

2. The cost of a tag is? $25?

we can assume a wage of $40,000 with maybe an equiavent overhead total cost to goverment $80,000 per year

thats 170 'good' Deer to break even everthing else is profit (about 2 good kills per day assuming normal hunting season)
(read tax reduction and wild meat in the supermarket)

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Ok then. So the government is now running a big deer farm. What's the difference between that and a regular farm? In fact, cut out the middle man, just get the government to own the supermarket - hooray we all work for the government!

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well they already own the land, are obliged to look after it why not a better profit from it...


dam that giving Hunters not only a cheap thrill, but cheap meat too.....

or remove the discount for provincal residents (cheap meat) and charge the non reisdent canadian fee at least around $150 ish and get some real payback

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Perzackly. And while we're at it, could the Politburo - I mean, the government - arrange for the production of a 5-year plan for venison, in order to prove to those capitalist running-dogs that centralised culling of deer is better for the masses. And while we're at it, please arrange for the Ministry of Food Production to distribute recipe booklets so that the workers in the tractor factories can reap the health benefits of eating venison, which your thoughtful government has kindly provided for you, to go with the government potato harvest and the centrally controlled bakery distribution network.

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totally agree... put Venison along side 'milk' centrally controlled to maximize profits http://www.cdc.ca/CDC/index_en.asp?caId=124&pgId=253

I'd hadn't thought about centralized government sponsored add campaigns, could possibly drive the cost of the meat up by increasing demand…. Hmmm

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Because, as Oakvillian as so nicely put it, I want to live in a country where there are at least a few individual freedoms.

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Now I don't know if you are taking the piss or not.

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Now just a though and a small edit to the Milk marketing boards

Domestic Meat Product Innovation Program
Background
The Canadian Venison Supply Management Committee (CMSMC) first approved the Domestic Meat Product Innovation Program (DDPIP) in February 1989. This program is subject to renewal every five years.
In July 2004, the CMSMC renewed its commitment to the Program and approved its continuation for an additional five-year period from July 31, 2005 to July 31, 2010. The maximum length of time that a processor can receive Venison under this program is five years.
Purpose
The DDPIP was designed to grant flexibility to the National Venison Marketing Plan by providing a mechanism whereby those who wish to produce new and innovative Meat products (as defined in the CDC Act) can access the Venison they need outside of existing provincial plant supply allocations. By encouraging such new development, the overall demand for Venison is expected to increase. It is important to note that butter is not an eligible Meat product for the program.
Venison volume provided under the program is set at 2% of Market Share Quota (MSQ) and is in addition to the provincial shares of the national MSQ which is set at a level aimed at meeting Canada's market demands for manufactured Meat products. The DDPIP is not intended to affect any existing provincial plant supply allocation systems for Venison or existing product markets.
DDPIP Venison Allocations
For each approved project under the DDPIP, a specific quantity of Venison is authorized for a limited period of five years starting from the first month of Venison delivery. At the end of that five-year period, or earlier if the project is abandoned, the special Venison allocation is terminated and regular provincial plant supply allocation procedures apply. Projects for which Venison is not utilized for a period of two (2) years will be considered abandoned and will lose the special Venison allocation associated with the project. Successful DDPIP products are not elegible for the Special Venison Class Program.
At the termination of an approved allocation, applicants should review, with their provincial Venison marketing board or agency, how Venison will be supplied for products developed under this program.
DDPIP Eligibility Criteria
An application must meet all the following criteria in order to be eligible for consideration under the DDPIP:
1. The product must be wholly or essentially made with Venison. It can not contain any imported Meat ingredient.

2. The product must introduce to the Canadian marketplace one or a combination of significantly new or innovative factors not currently available in Canada, unless the Selection Committee considers the application acceptable based on exceptional factors.
3. Through its introduction, the probable results must lead to an increase in the net demand for Canadian Venison or a decrease in the net demand for imported Meat products (not subject to a predetermined annual quota) over what would have occurred without the introduction of the product. Unless the Selection Committee decides that a report is not necessary from the companies requesting only a small and limited amount of Venison, the increase in Venison demand will have to be confirmed in a report from an independent concept test firm.
4. The applicant must already be a licensed processor or have submitted a licensing application to the provincial authorities before a project can be approved. In any event, no Venison will be delivered until the license is issued to the company.
The sole fact that a proposed product is either made with organic, omega or raw Venison, a product destined to certain ethnic groups (e.g. kosher), or different packaging alone does not qualify it for the innovation program if one or more of the above four criteria are not met.
Applications to the DDPIP must include all relevant information on:
• the anticipated sales volume of the proposed product;
• the composition of the proposed product, including for example, its butterfat and Venison solids non-fat components as well as other ingredients to be used;
• the estimated market distribution of the proposed product and the amount of Venison required annually for up to five (5) years;
• a detailed marketing plan indicating, among other things, the distribution network and the targeted market;
• the availability of similar products elsewhere in Canada; and
• any new or innovative factors being introduced to the Canadian marketplace by the development of the proposed product.



read that and tell me it isn't so crazy

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Promotion of Canadian products is one thing, wholesale government production of them is another. This is off topic a little bit though.

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He's "extracting the michael" as we used to say ever so wittily in the early 80's! IOW: He taking the piss, he's pulling your plonker etc.:cool:

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I used to play with toy guns when I was a child, then bb guns and air rifles as a teenager. Then I just kind of grew out of it - guess some people never do.

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So do you just play with yourself now?:p

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It's like any other sport or hobby some keep doing it some don't. Take piano for instance - I did it as a child, had I carried on it would have caused more harm to those nearby than shooting a critter would ever do.

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it would probably have been burnt to a cinder by now.

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yes I have to agree the first thing that was mentioned at work today was "please don't burn the place down" :unsure:

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Big motorbikes, big guns, big truck maybe? - I suspect someone's coming us a little short in other departments.
If there's a Mrs. Triumphguy and she's feeling a little frustrated, she can always come and "play" with me.

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can some one pass the popcorn.

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here hun............budge up.....

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PHEW did you wash today :unsure:

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PMSL:rofl: no, that's Sundays.

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listen you, this was actually a sensible debate about the pro's and cons of hunting - obviously something not everyone agrees on.

And it has stayed for the main part (actually no for the whole part) rational. Then you chirp up with your childish statements just because.

And you say hunters are childish and immature - find the nearest mirror and take a look in it 'k :thumbdown:

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That is something of an achievement for 25 pages - usually the rot sets in halfway down the second page.

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Its a major achievement considering I contributed more than twice :confused:

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I only have 10 pages. ;)

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Me too,

Do you think thats cos we Alberdans are more environmentally savvy so we use less 'paper'

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Well less pixels maybe. ;)

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I don't think the forum wants to know about the state of your arse.

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so it is him that smells

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OK OK OK, quit it now boys, we're dragging the thread down. :o

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Oh yes, oops! Sorry mmc!

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Hold 'er Knute, she's 'eaded for t' rhubarb.:ohmy:

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Thanks guys - now - as you were.............. ;)

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...looks like your fella went on one "cougar hunt" too many.

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he got a good 'un though

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so what happened to her?:confused:

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...I thought the idea with hunting was to put the ropey old knackered ones out of their misery, but what do I know, I don't hunt.

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shot 'er :( apparently got in the way when a big buck appeared - these men and their guns - completely out of control :huh:

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Whats the matter - too chicken to come out and say things directly, hiding behind hunting analogies as thinly veiled insults???!!!!!!

You remind me of something









What was it












oh yes - A dwarf with an IQ of 4










You are neither big nor clever. Leave it now eh - this forum is not the place for slanging matches. :zzz: