I had a MK2 Golf GTI in the UK that I loved, here I have a Cobalt.

OH had a Jeep Grande Cherokee, now he has a newer Jeep Grande Cherokee.

So those were the normal every day cars, and these were the weekend ones!

1. Racer.

2. Offroader

3. Friends Racer that I navigated for 3 years in the British Off Road Championship.

4. Moggy that had been rebuilt by OH and needed doing again!

I have a Merc and Mandy has (until this week) an Astra Twintop (hardtop convertible).
When we move Mandy wants the Chrysler Sebring hard top convertible (as it's similar to the astra twintop) and I will probably go for something like a Jeep Patriot.

Anybody any thoughts on our suggestions for cars in Canada?

Kev

And I suppose the man on a cell phone is much safer, or even texting on his blackberry or checking his GPS.

Whilst drinking his coffee and trying to find the chocolate timbit.....

No safer, just as bad
Its just on the 410/401 its more often a 25- 45 female on the phone
at least when I'm commuting between 8.30 and 9.00 and 17.30 and 18.00
I'd go with a 70:30 split

Try the M6 anytime and the split is more the other way

But traffic on the M6 is so sparse compared with the 401 that the comparison isn't meaningful. One might argue that, again compared with the 401, there are so few cars on British motorways that it doesn't matter if people pay attention; there's no one to hit.

The sebring is a dog, there are probably better choices for hard top convertibles out there. Even the pontiac is probably preferable. VW Eos if you have the money?

The section of the M6 I use is busier than any road I have travelled on in Canada, and that includes GTA. We are often bumper to bumper all at 80MPH, sorry fender to fender. Its an accepted fact that UK motorways particularly around London, Birmingham and Manchester, M1 M6 M5 And the
M62 are at capacity or above.

Because they don't have much capacity to begin with. M6 <40,000 vehicles per day at busiest point

http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/doc...ffic_study.pdf

401, >400,000 vehicles per day

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=169973&page=5
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You people in the UK have in good, you have so much space, so little congestion!

Why does this have to be just a man? Women appear to just as addicted to cell phones and Blackberries.

How about the woman breast feeding her child?

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I don’t disagree the manic time deprived always on the phone sales rep is was a nightmare on the M6 and the M5 the M40 and M25 that I knew of……

However that spectacularly stupid part of humanity is in the GTA is replaced by the time starved soccer mum in a mini van eating her breakfast whist talking to her fellow driving soccer mum on the phone, just as dumb and just as dangerous

Stupidity isn't gender related.
It starts with people believing they're better at something than they really are. see line 2 in my signature
How bad it gets depends on how convinced they are in their abilities.

Bumpers are still bumpers, wings are fenders.

showing your lack of recent UK experience, there, dbd. The <40,000 figure relates to the M6 Toll, the relief road built to alleviate congestion on the M6. Saying that, though, the document you quote still has only 167,900 vehicles per day on the M6 between J9 and J10 at its peak, compared to the 401 between the 400 and Weston Road which had 407,800 vehicles per day in 2004.

In terms of traffic congestion, rather than just sheer volume, the two are probably more comparable than those figures suggest. The M6 is 6 lanes compared to the 401's 14 lanes at that point. Traffic density, vehicles per lane, is therefore almost exactly the same.