dbd33

And what?

Alan2005

The exact opposite actually. Free speech is free speech innit.

Protest is also speech. If people feel that there is a need to campaign to get littlejohn fired then all power to them.

dbd33

Four. Counting the ugly tranny. I don't really know him but he tends bar around the corner from the office and I see him in the street, he's pre-op, his bits dangle out of his thong. You?

London-England-Lads

Why should shouting Fire in a crowded theatre being any different to say an article in the early days of AIDS, where hundreds of Gay Men were beaten, some to death. Or articles published in the 50's and 60' about so called "people of colour" Same conclusion - people died for nothing

So you feel "The Final Solution" was a valid piece of Free Speech?

Shard

Yes of course they have a right to protest and a right to their view that LJ should be fired. I simply dispute that view and am suspicious of their true motives.

London-England-Lads

Many and each of them brave loving caring people, the only thing that confuses them is why they can not be allowed to be who they were meant to be.

BTW - you do understand the difference between a Trans-gender person and a Tranny - as your use of terminology suggest otherwise.

Jingsamichty

The great thing about free speech is that it makes it easy for everyone to know who the idiots are.

Oink

I don't think you've quite understand the difference between speech and action.

London-England-Lads

And I gather that in your opinion an innocent person can be victimised to the point that they take their own life, so that some trans phobic writer can air his views to a readership of bigoted and (every) phobia in the name of free speech.

Thank god I have the humanity not to accept that.

ArthurBrit

What if tomorrow Richard Littlejohn killed himself, are you directly responsible?

London-England-Lads

I am sure that Mr Littlejohn has more guilt on his hands to make him choose such a drastic act. I also believe after the years of bigoted and phobic journalism he has written, he things he is indestructble.

ArthurBrit

You didn't answer the question at all.

You are basically saying his words alone killed 'Miss Meadows' so surely the reverse would have to be true?

Shard

Does it say anywhere that the LJ article led to the death? Are you not jumping to conclusions? It's a very serious (moral) charge to say someone has blood on their hands.

London-England-Lads

Mr Littlejohn puts himself out there, he has a certain amount of power behind him. Miss Meadows did not. Mr Littlejohn courts the public. Miss Meadows wanted to be who she was meant to be.

I wonder what the "" around Miss Meadows name actually mean ?

I am not asking for Mr Littlejohn to take his life, I am asking that he should never be able to write such damaging articles ever again.

London-England-Lads

I will send you more information on it when I get home. Time Out started the campaign for the protest tonight, Stephen Fry's freedom of speech on Twitter added to it and now a number of major publications are campaigning for hime to get sacked.

He won't be sacked - but it shows that public opinions on what is and what is not acceptable as free speech is changing