Richard Littlejohn - another reason to leave the UK
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Re: Richard Littlejohn - another reason to leave the UK
I like reading the Daily Mail because it makes me feel like an anarchist.
Despite all my self-imposed middle-aged, middle-class shackles, a quick flick through the DM reminds me that I really still am the sort of person who dreams of setting fire to a police station or a Tory MP.
Despite all my self-imposed middle-aged, middle-class shackles, a quick flick through the DM reminds me that I really still am the sort of person who dreams of setting fire to a police station or a Tory MP.
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the daily mail deleted the original piece from their website but it's still out there -
http://web.archive.org/web/201212211...wrong-job.html
personally I detest the mail. hypocritical wankers.
banging on about tax evaders when the owner is registered as a french citizen so he doesn't have to pay taxes.
going on about child porn / pornograhy etc and then having all the pics of young girls with hardly any clothes on in the sidebar.
their personal witch hunts of stars who speak out against them.
Paul Dacre is a despicable man. Just because a country has a free press, doesn't mean they are free to say anything they want about anybody, irrespective of whether the facts are true or not.
no wonder they are so against the latest Press law change - it will actually make them accountable for some of the drivel they publish.
http://web.archive.org/web/201212211...wrong-job.html
personally I detest the mail. hypocritical wankers.
banging on about tax evaders when the owner is registered as a french citizen so he doesn't have to pay taxes.
going on about child porn / pornograhy etc and then having all the pics of young girls with hardly any clothes on in the sidebar.
their personal witch hunts of stars who speak out against them.
Paul Dacre is a despicable man. Just because a country has a free press, doesn't mean they are free to say anything they want about anybody, irrespective of whether the facts are true or not.
no wonder they are so against the latest Press law change - it will actually make them accountable for some of the drivel they publish.
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Re: Richard Littlejohn - another reason to leave the UK
the daily mail deleted the original piece from their website but it's still out there -
http://web.archive.org/web/201212211...wrong-job.html
personally I detest the mail. hypocritical wankers.
banging on about tax evaders when the owner is registered as a french citizen so he doesn't have to pay taxes.
going on about child porn / pornograhy etc and then having all the pics of young girls with hardly any clothes on in the sidebar.
their personal witch hunts of stars who speak out against them.
Paul Dacre is a despicable man. Just because a country has a free press, doesn't mean they are free to say anything they want about anybody, irrespective of whether the facts are true or not.
no wonder they are so against the latest Press law change - it will actually make them accountable for some of the drivel they publish.
http://web.archive.org/web/201212211...wrong-job.html
personally I detest the mail. hypocritical wankers.
banging on about tax evaders when the owner is registered as a french citizen so he doesn't have to pay taxes.
going on about child porn / pornograhy etc and then having all the pics of young girls with hardly any clothes on in the sidebar.
their personal witch hunts of stars who speak out against them.
Paul Dacre is a despicable man. Just because a country has a free press, doesn't mean they are free to say anything they want about anybody, irrespective of whether the facts are true or not.
no wonder they are so against the latest Press law change - it will actually make them accountable for some of the drivel they publish.
I certainly enjoyed the school newsletter announcement:
Mr Upton has made a significant change in his life and will be transitioning to live as a woman after the Christmas break. She will return to work as Miss Meadows.
A few decades ago you could almost see a line like that coming out in a Monty Python sketch!!! Poor old Miss Meadows, poor kids. Such a quirky world we live in these days.
Last edited by Shard; Mar 25th 2013 at 3:15 pm.
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Re: Richard Littlejohn - another reason to leave the UK
Thanks for linking the original article. Dislike of the DM notwithstanding, this was not an outrageous article by Richard Littlejohn, and many would agree that primary school age children do not need to confront the confusion of transgender at a young age.
I certainly enjoyed the school newsletter announcement:
Mr Upton has made a significant change in his life and will be transitioning to live as a woman after the Christmas break. She will return to work as Miss Meadows.
A few decades ago you could almost see a line like that coming out in a Monty Python sketch!!! Poor old Miss Meadows, poor kids. Such a quirky world we live in these days.
I certainly enjoyed the school newsletter announcement:
Mr Upton has made a significant change in his life and will be transitioning to live as a woman after the Christmas break. She will return to work as Miss Meadows.
A few decades ago you could almost see a line like that coming out in a Monty Python sketch!!! Poor old Miss Meadows, poor kids. Such a quirky world we live in these days.
All human being's are different and unique in their own different ways and unless they are doing something that effects our lives in a negative way then we shouldn't really judge anyone for it. Leave them be and certainly don't completely assassinate their character and life choice in the international press.
The earlier that kids are exposed to these things, they will not look at them as being 'different' later on in life, which inevitably leads to where so much hate and discrimination comes from.
It might also make them realise that most of what is written in the daily mail is a load of old crap as well which is great IMO.
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That was a bit of a shocker, to realise that my daughter didn't know people could be unmarried and have children! But most people we know with kids are married, so it just hadn't occurred to her (or to me to mention it to her either). Something like a teacher changing gender would have caused her head to spin around on her shoulders whilst projecting green vomit I think.
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I think we can celebrate having an actively free press without endorsing the views expressed. The British press is better than the Canadian press because it includes the Daily Mail and because there's a forum for Mr. Littlejohn to suggest that a person so confused that he wants his balls chopped off might not be a ideal mentor for young children.
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I think we can celebrate having an actively free press without endorsing the views expressed. The British press is better than the Canadian press because it includes the Daily Mail and because there's a forum for Mr. Littlejohn to suggest that a person so confused that he wants his balls chopped off might not be a ideal mentor for young children.
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Re: Richard Littlejohn - another reason to leave the UK
and why we have lawyer at the ready for slander and libel cases...
You can say what you want, but be prepared for the consequences
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<or should it be hyphenated, like the subject of the article?>
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Without having read the Littlejohn article it is difficult to comment and impossible to vote. However if his point is that some children have difficulty with understanding gender transitions, it's certainly a valid one. Many adults have difficulty understanding transgender. Indeed, many transgender have difficulty understanding gender, hence their identity issues. It seems to me the witchhunt or mob mentality is in the petition which seeks to vilify a journalist. His views are often odious, but as DBD points out, he is entitled to make them.
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That's easy for you to say. Those people don't know which toilet to use half the time which must be a kind of living hell for them.
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The Canadian press doesn't employ journalists who have the level of literacy in English required to write a piece of this nature. It may be that you disagree with Mr Littlejohn's thrust, it may be that you favour school teachers having their bits rearranged, but you should still celebrate the diversity and coherence of British newspapers and that there is space within them for people able to deliver an emotion inspiring column.
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Without having read the Littlejohn article it is difficult to comment and impossible to vote. However if his point is that some children have difficulty with understanding gender transitions, it's certainly a valid one. Many adults have difficulty understanding transgender. Indeed, many transgender have difficulty understanding gender, hence their identity issues. It seems to me the witchhunt or mob mentality is in the petition which seeks to vilify a journalist. His views are often odious, but as DBD points out, he is entitled to make them.
The children were unaware that their teacher was transgender, in fact the teacher was well liked and inspirational to many of the children. The fact is that Littlejohn went out on a witch-hunt, not as a journalist but as transgender phobe - vile vile vile !