Random stuff - the anything else thread
#9511
I don't think that the majority of truck drivers in Canada support this kind of idiotic protest, also I don't think that any majority in Canada would support this way of protest as well.
I think this kind of protest is largely instigated by some kind of right wing Donald Trump related US organization, trying to get a foot into Canada.
I think this kind of protest is largely instigated by some kind of right wing Donald Trump related US organization, trying to get a foot into Canada.
#9512
So where is the equivalent of the US Truck Convoy that is influencing Canadian Truckers? I have heard that they are attempting to assemble one for a ride to DC but so far it has not materialized.
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. I believe the only issue is that the Canadian government wants to MANDATE that every Canadian, from infancy to dying senior citizen, including every resident, visa holder, and native.
If unvaccinated, no work, no medical care, only a government that was voted into power turning its back on its citizens.
As has been noted by someone on social media it never was mandated that you needed to be vaccinated for the flu, measles,mumps, polio, smallpox, etc. There was and still are a large number of citizens on both sides of the border who are not vaccinated for diseases for which there are effective medical protection.
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. I believe the only issue is that the Canadian government wants to MANDATE that every Canadian, from infancy to dying senior citizen, including every resident, visa holder, and native.
If unvaccinated, no work, no medical care, only a government that was voted into power turning its back on its citizens.
As has been noted by someone on social media it never was mandated that you needed to be vaccinated for the flu, measles,mumps, polio, smallpox, etc. There was and still are a large number of citizens on both sides of the border who are not vaccinated for diseases for which there are effective medical protection.
#9514
That is very wide of the mark. Firstly, it's not the Canadian government that passes the mandates. In the case of the truck driving related mandates it's the US government and the Provincial governments in Canada. The parade is protesting to the Prime Minister but it's nothing to do with him. Secondly, the mandates apply to people who want to work. If someone wants to stay at home and not be vaccinated then they're free to do that. Few people are that stupid but the option is there.
The protestors should be towed as if they were BLM or Stanley Cup protestors. It's not acceptable that they're allowed to camp in the streets just because their political views align with those of the police.
#9515
That is very wide of the mark. Firstly, it's not the Canadian government that passes the mandates. In the case of the truck driving related mandates it's the US government and the Provincial governments in Canada. The parade is protesting to the Prime Minister but it's nothing to do with him. Secondly, the mandates apply to people who want to work. If someone wants to stay at home and not be vaccinated then they're free to do that. Few people are that stupid but the option is there.
The protestors should be towed as if they were BLM or Stanley Cup protestors. It's not acceptable that they're allowed to camp in the streets just because their political views align with those of the police.
The protestors should be towed as if they were BLM or Stanley Cup protestors. It's not acceptable that they're allowed to camp in the streets just because their political views align with those of the police.
#9516
That is very wide of the mark. Firstly, it's not the Canadian government that passes the mandates. In the case of the truck driving related mandates it's the US government and the Provincial governments in Canada. The parade is protesting to the Prime Minister but it's nothing to do with him. Secondly, the mandates apply to people who want to work. If someone wants to stay at home and not be vaccinated then they're free to do that. Few people are that stupid but the option is there.
The protestors should be towed as if they were BLM or Stanley Cup protestors. It's not acceptable that they're allowed to camp in the streets just because their political views align with those of the police.
The protestors should be towed as if they were BLM or Stanley Cup protestors. It's not acceptable that they're allowed to camp in the streets just because their political views align with those of the police.
They are also requesting the removal of all mandates and I agree that not all of them are within the jurisdiction of the Federal government. The ones for Federal workers are, the ones for international travel are and there may be some others too. The ones that don't allow you to go to a restaurant or attend a hockey game are, likely, within the jurisdiction of the Provinces just as some municipalities have imposed their own too.
#9517
I have heard numerous reports on CBC that it is a Provincial matter rather than federal presumably because Health matters are for the provinces and vaccine mandates are Health matters.
How that's actually done is another matter but truck drivers are subject to additional checks, not just those of immigration, so there are opportunities.
#9518
Replace "not true" with "not as simple as all that", then, yes, I know, but, IMO, the vaccine mandates are a sideshow to the protest which is really a generalized wail against the federal government and the population that elected that government.
#9520
#9521
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I haven't finished. At the moment I believe there are only two franco quebeckers fully versed in the use of the word "bolloc......".
I'll get cracking on him when he starts to speak.
I'll get cracking on him when he starts to speak.
#9522
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So where is the equivalent of the US Truck Convoy that is influencing Canadian Truckers? I have heard that they are attempting to assemble one for a ride to DC but so far it has not materialized.
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. I believe the only issue is that the Canadian government wants to MANDATE that every Canadian, from infancy to dying senior citizen, including every resident, visa holder, and native.
If unvaccinated, no work, no medical care, only a government that was voted into power turning its back on its citizens.
As has been noted by someone on social media it never was mandated that you needed to be vaccinated for the flu, measles,mumps, polio, smallpox, etc. There was and still are a large number of citizens on both sides of the border who are not vaccinated for diseases for which there are effective medical protection.
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. I believe the only issue is that the Canadian government wants to MANDATE that every Canadian, from infancy to dying senior citizen, including every resident, visa holder, and native.
If unvaccinated, no work, no medical care, only a government that was voted into power turning its back on its citizens.
As has been noted by someone on social media it never was mandated that you needed to be vaccinated for the flu, measles,mumps, polio, smallpox, etc. There was and still are a large number of citizens on both sides of the border who are not vaccinated for diseases for which there are effective medical protection.
#9523
I believe the federal government jurisdiction over what happens at the borders is immigration related. You may recall that in Atlantic Canada the provinces virtually closed the borders at the beginning of the pandemic. Obviously this was mostly province to province but for New Brunswick it included Maine. People coming into the province "without good reason" were sent back using the provincial powers.
I have heard numerous reports on CBC that it is a Provincial matter rather than federal presumably because Health matters are for the provinces and vaccine mandates are Health matters.
How that's actually done is another matter but truck drivers are subject to additional checks, not just those of immigration, so there are opportunities.
I have heard numerous reports on CBC that it is a Provincial matter rather than federal presumably because Health matters are for the provinces and vaccine mandates are Health matters.
How that's actually done is another matter but truck drivers are subject to additional checks, not just those of immigration, so there are opportunities.
I have to admit that I am not aware of any current issues with travel between the Provinces but, if there is, I accept that that would be a provincial government issue.
#9524
#9525
So where is the equivalent of the US Truck Convoy that is influencing Canadian Truckers? I have heard that they are attempting to assemble one for a ride to DC but so far it has not materialized.
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. .
I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. .
Neo-Nazis and QAnon: how Canadian truckers’ anti-vaccine protest was steered by extremists
The so-called “freedom convoy†– which departed for Ottawa on 23 January – was the brainchild of James Bauder, an admitted conspiracy theorist who has endorsed the QAnon movement and called Covid-19 “the biggest political scam in historyâ€...'Hold Fast Canada' had organized pickets of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s headquarters, where they claimed that concentration camps had already been introduced in the country. Another group, Action4Canada, launched legal challenges to mask and vaccine mandates. In one 400-page court filing, they allege that the “false pronouncement of a Covid-19 ‘pandemic’†was carried out, at least in part, by Bill Gates and a “New World (Economic) Order†to facilitate the injection of 5G-enabled microchips into the population.
Since they have arrived in Ottawa, the extreme elements of the protest have been visible: neo-Nazi and Confederate flags were seen flying, QAnon logos were emblazoned on trucks and signs...



