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Old Jan 29th 2018 | 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
No brain. (In plants, not you. Although...)
Some interesting observations in this article..

https://science.howstuffworks.com/li...-feel-pain.htm
According to researchers at the Institute for Applied Physics at the University of Bonn in Germany, plants release gases that are the equivalent of crying out in pain. Using a laser-powered microphone, researchers have picked up sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. Although not audible to the human ear, the secret voices of plants have revealed that cucumbers scream when they are sick, and flowers whine when their leaves are cut [source: Deutsche Welle].

There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia found that plants understand and respond to chewing sounds made by caterpillars that are dining on them. As soon as the plants hear the noises, they respond with several defense mechanisms [source: Feinberg].
 
Old Jan 29th 2018 | 7:25 am
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Old Jan 29th 2018 | 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
Some interesting observations in this article..

https://science.howstuffworks.com/li...-feel-pain.htm
According to researchers at the Institute for Applied Physics at the University of Bonn in Germany, plants release gases that are the equivalent of crying out in pain. Using a laser-powered microphone, researchers have picked up sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. Although not audible to the human ear, the secret voices of plants have revealed that cucumbers scream when they are sick, and flowers whine when their leaves are cut [source: Deutsche Welle].

There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia found that plants understand and respond to chewing sounds made by caterpillars that are dining on them. As soon as the plants hear the noises, they respond with several defense mechanisms [source: Feinberg].
Biological reactions, but it's an analogy too far to suggest they 'feel' anything; even insects are said to have insufficient capacity to feel pain. Mammals are a different story, and intelligent mammals, such as pigs, even feel emotional pain.
 
Old Jan 29th 2018 | 8:58 am
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On the way home from Palm Desert. Only 5.5 hours from home. Been doing the drive home in 6 to 7 days.

Going down with only 1 overnight stop was too tiring.

Motel 6 has gotten really frugal. No shampoo anymore.

But no pet fee and nearly all are pet friendly.

No free wifi at most as well.
 
Old Jan 29th 2018 | 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Biological reactions, but it's an analogy too far to suggest they 'feel' anything; even insects are said to have insufficient capacity to feel pain. Mammals are a different story, and intelligent mammals, such as pigs, even feel emotional pain.
I suspect that you're drawing conclusions that cannot be proven to support a doubtful argument.

I would make another, equally difficult to prove, assertion based on little more than common sense that 'nature' would not have evolved species that weren't able to react to threat and injury and in order to react they must sense it. Whether this sense would be what you would understand as pain is unlikely but would be equivalent in 'their' sensory world.
 
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
On the way home from Palm Desert. Only 5.5 hours from home.
Hope it's going well and that Charlee's travelling well. I remember travelling with my lab and being lucky to find a campground that would let us rent a spot, and most often just camping rough.
Being able to plan and book using the internet is a big improvement over the old days when I was on holiday with my parents and sometimes we drove past miles and miles of motels with NO VACANCY signs lit up until we could find a place to pull in.

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Hope it's going well and that Charlee's travelling well. I remember travelling with my lab and being lucky to find a campground that would let us rent a spot, and most often just camping rough.
Being able to plan and book using the internet is a big improvement over the old days when I was on holiday with my parents and sometimes we drove past miles and miles of motels with NO VACANCY signs lit up until we could find a place to pull in.
I remember those days in the 80's and 90's on road trips growing up. I don't miss them...

We didn't make concrete reservations but none of the motels looked full. I just chose Motel 6 since nearly all take pets and they don't require a credit card and permit one to check in with cash only, downside is no shampoo...



We are finally home..Never doing that again. Cheaper to fly and way less tiring.



In other news found an old report card from 1987, first quarter teacher seemed optimistic, wrote I tried hard in class.

2nd quarter she wrote, difficulty keeping up with class and falling behind.

By the last quarter, he has great difficulty in academics, especially difficult with math, he has not mastered math and needs significant educational assistance a public school cannot provide.

Interesting reading comments at 38 that teachers wrote 30 some odd years ago.
 
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So school is supposed to be where we get educated in a variety of topics such as Maths, History, Geography and now it seems illegal streaming and porn.

Parents were furious after schoolgirls as young as nine were accidentally shown porn at school instead of the new Paddington 2 film. Croft Academy in Walsall streamed the film which was released in November.

Did they stream it legally

'We asked a member of staff if they had even watched the film beforehand and they had not.

Ever heard of quality control and vetting?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hown-PORN.html
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 1:14 am
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So school is supposed to be where we get educated in a variety of topics such as Maths, History, Geography and now it seems illegal streaming and porn...
Don't forget the pigs and bacon that Shard mentioned.
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by dave_j
I suspect that you're drawing conclusions that cannot be proven to support a doubtful argument.

I would make another, equally difficult to prove, assertion based on little more than common sense that 'nature' would not have evolved species that weren't able to react to threat and injury and in order to react they must sense it. Whether this sense would be what you would understand as pain is unlikely but would be equivalent in 'their' sensory world.
Have another glass of Chateau Bollocks.
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 5:54 am
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Have another glass of Chateau Bollocks.
Chateau Couilles, surely?

Pick a language, please.
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 5:56 am
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Chateau Couilles, surely?

Pick a language, please.
Why? Quebeckers use a mixture.
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 6:15 am
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Have another glass of Chateau Bollocks.
Ah.... The Trump strategy.... Use when all else fails....
 
Old Jan 30th 2018 | 6:48 am
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Ah.... The Trump strategy.... Use when all else fails....
Well, given that your position has gone from "vegans are mad to be concerned about the ethics of eating pigs" to "root vegetables, despite having not even a rudimentary brain, some how have evolved pain receptors which sense distress" I think a Trump like response is fitting.
 
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@Jsmith321 did you get into any good Mexican food down there?
 


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