Shard

I read The Guardian online because it's free. Twenty years ago I used to read what was called the then free "Electronic Telegraph" (DT) website. Somehow, in the interim, my political bias has shifted.

kimilseung

BJ is the one pushing for no deal, it appears he is personifying Britain as BJ.

dbd33

Twenty years ago I was an established user of the Grauniad talkboard and so already a reader of the online version of the paper. About that time I stopped subscribing to the Guardian Weekly which was a shame because the airmail paper made it seem an exotic publication. I've always been a red Tory/Champagne Socialist.

Boris Johnson isn't either of those, but he might be the most ambitious person of recent times. He seems prepared to severely damage the economy of a whole country, perhaps even go to jail, just so he can have been a Prime Minister who did a dramatic thing. Not a thing he cares about, not a good thing, just a big thing. He's the Freddy Mercury of politicians, Brexit will reverberate in the ears of future generations like some dreadful piece of cod opera.

Shard

I think the Guardian Weekly is still going, but I can't imagine who buys it.

Spot on about Boris. If you ever want to quit the day job I think you could have a good crack at being an OpEd writer !

JamesM

I only view the free ones. BBC, Guardian and Daily Mail (although I've pretty much abandoned the latter because it is pure dross).

I don't mind the Guardian and frequent the sport coverage and have a nibble in the comments (as you may know). David Conn is my favourite sports writer producing interesting content on the off field affairs of football clubs and the games administration for more than twenty years.

The Guardian has though in my opinion really started to lean in on it's leftism in recent years and I do feel it is not as impartial or objective as it used to once be.

That being said in my pre-Canada days in the UK I was exposed to more media and spent less time on the Guardian so maybe that has jaded me.

If I had to pay for a subscription the only publication that produces content I find refreshing is the New York Times. I did for years pay for the Economist and might consider it again someday too.

Don't get me started on Canadian newspapers. Children could do a better job.

Shard

I'm an ex print Economist subscriber too. Funnily enough, for a few years I had continued access to the online version (through some glitch) but found I didn't have the time to read it with so much other online content avaialble. That and a niggling sense of guilt about consuming the content freely. In the past I avoided the Guardian precisely because I viewed as entirely left wing, so I don't know if it has toned itself down as you suggest, if it has, perhaps that's why I find it relatively easy to read.

I'm waiting for publication aggregators to emerge. Like a Netflix of media journals. I enjoy the odd article from the NYT, WP, The Atlantic, Economist, FT, Spectator etc, but not enough to engage subscriptions. I'm registered so in theory can read the 1 article per week - but it's never enough, so I tend not to browse them.

dbd33

www.newsnow.co.uk

dbd33

A bad hip old gunslinger?

BristolUK

I still enjoy reading a print newspaper. As recently as 2003 I'd be on holiday on some Greek island, happily buying the guardian a day late (even when an edition was printed in Europe it was a day late outside of cities) and enjoying it as if it was that day's edition.

When I moved here I had a free sample of the Weekly sent to me but it wasn't the same. With easy on line access I cannot imagine why anyone would get the print version let alone the weekly one.

So long as it can still be objective and continues to give space to an opposing opinion I'm fine with that.

What irritates me is it crosses over into everything.
Not too long ago they had their best movie/tv/album etc awards.
They picked:
Best album - was by a woman (no that's not it) who believes in gender fluidity and sexual fluidity. Also highly commended was one by a female, black, gay singer.
Best TV was The Handmaid's Tale.
Top movie concerned two gay men and highly commended was a 'feminiist' movie.
Top play was about a former IRA member at the time of the hunger strikes.

It all looked too much like coincidence. Or self deprecating maybe. Has anyone seen their best so far of this century? Loads of 'worthy' stuff in the movie category. It makes it too easy for people to have a go at the guardian. Clickbait I suppose.

dbd33

"My favourite episode of The Incredible Hulk is the one where a small group of people shouted too loudly so he ran away"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ws-latest-news

Atlantic Xpat

I grew up reading the Telegraph - mainly because my folks did (still do). But it's become such a frothingly pro_bojo Brexit rag that I can't read it seriously anymore. I dip in to the free stories online but wont pay for it. I hve subscribed to The Times and read the Graun for balance. For US news I subscribed to the Washington Post. For Canadian news, well, I don't bother, aside from subscribing to the local rag in St John's.

Anyway, just got an email from my boss (in London) telling me I need to come over for a team event first week in Nov. Should I bring my own food parcels do you think?

dbd33

Will there still be aeroplanes going there or should you take one to Ireland and cross the Boris bridge? You could collect a sheep on the way.

Atlantic Xpat

Getting there, I imagine, should be easy enough from Canada. Fighting your way through the masses attempting to flee the country to seek refugee status on the way back might be more complex!

JamesM

A week of tinned food won't do you any harm.

JamesM

I really enjoyed it. Mainly because I could be distracted by politics in other places and I liked the various indexes it published at the back.

Once I no longer commuted on a comfortable train with a seat though I stopped finding the time.