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#436
I tend to agree with your reasoning... but I wonder how attitudes could change were Ireland to look on the proposal, if that's what it evolves into, favourably?
The EU has deferred to Ireland in this matter in the past but, as you say, I can't see it allowing others to have access to a veto over it's affairs, whereas it's prepared to do the same to others.
The EU has deferred to Ireland in this matter in the past but, as you say, I can't see it allowing others to have access to a veto over it's affairs, whereas it's prepared to do the same to others.
#437
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Ireland is one voice of 27, and those 27 already agreed to a WA with the 28th, the NI government doesn't have the same status in UK politics as the Belgian Parliament gives it's regional governments, and the NI executive hasn't sat since Jan 2017. The DUP is suggesting something it can't achieve, much the same as BoJo became PM.
The EU has deferred to Ireland in this matter in the past but, as you say, I can't see it allowing others to have access to a veto over it's affairs, whereas it's prepared to do the same to others.
#438
Interesting to read Cameron's comments on BoJo in his Times interview. He essentially confirms that BoJo wasn't a Brexiter and is critical of his current chicanery.
#439
Bojo is simply a career politician. His goal now is just cementing his name in the history books. He really doesn't give a toss for much else as he has hit the top of the ladder by playing the game.
#441
I think that there's some agreement that the election finesse did not work out well at all, but prorogation could still lend our hero some time on the clock, providing the Supreme Court approves the move.
There seems to be a general feeling going around, something I can't quite put my finger on, that our hero is something of a charlatan, a flibbertigibbet, a Del boy with a nice accent, someone whose probably sold his grandmother to buy a decent haircut but couldn't get much for her.
Now I don't put much store by rumour, but if he's as wriggly a worm as some would have us believe then he's capable of disappearing down one hole and popping up through another.
Personally, I'm not as convinced as many seem to be that our hero will end in a ditch, at least not before lining it with some comfortable bedding and a crate of bubbly.
We shall see shortly whether it's going to be Number 10 or The Tower.
I wonder if the Queen will be amused.
There seems to be a general feeling going around, something I can't quite put my finger on, that our hero is something of a charlatan, a flibbertigibbet, a Del boy with a nice accent, someone whose probably sold his grandmother to buy a decent haircut but couldn't get much for her.
Now I don't put much store by rumour, but if he's as wriggly a worm as some would have us believe then he's capable of disappearing down one hole and popping up through another.
Personally, I'm not as convinced as many seem to be that our hero will end in a ditch, at least not before lining it with some comfortable bedding and a crate of bubbly.
We shall see shortly whether it's going to be Number 10 or The Tower.
I wonder if the Queen will be amused.
Last edited by dave_j; Sep 14th 2019 at 3:14 pm.
#442
Personally, I'm not as convinced as many seem to be that our hero will end in a ditch, at least not before lining it with some comfortable bedding and a crate of bubbly.
We shall see shortly whether it's going to be Number 10 or The Tower.
I wonder if the Queen will be amused.
We shall see shortly whether it's going to be Number 10 or The Tower.
I wonder if the Queen will be amused.
The Queen doesn’t care either as she comes from money too.
#444
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
#445
Imagine that you live in Orwell's 1984. A totalitarian system capable of rewriting history using it's ability to distort reality.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, the Prime Minister says that if negotiations break down, he will ignore the Commons vote ordering him to delay the UK's departure, adding: 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.'
It seems he has extended the metaphor to himself. In any case, it's juvenile imagery. Worse than Trump, and that says something about the current leadership. I suppose it's pitched to appeal to Leavers, and might resonate with them.
As for character assassination, don't you mean Remain group?
#446
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From the DM:
In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, the Prime Minister says that if negotiations break down, he will ignore the Commons vote ordering him to delay the UK's departure, adding: 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.'
It seems he has extended the metaphor to himself. In any case, it's juvenile imagery. Worse than Trump, and that says something about the current leadership. I suppose it's pitched to appeal to Leavers, and might resonate with them.
In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, the Prime Minister says that if negotiations break down, he will ignore the Commons vote ordering him to delay the UK's departure, adding: 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.'
It seems he has extended the metaphor to himself. In any case, it's juvenile imagery. Worse than Trump, and that says something about the current leadership. I suppose it's pitched to appeal to Leavers, and might resonate with them.
Imagine that you live in Orwell's 1984. A totalitarian system capable of rewriting history using it's ability to distort reality.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.


[i]Hollywood actor Mark Ruffalo explains to Boris Johnson why comparing himself to the Incredible Hulk is a bad idea.
[b]"Boris Johnson forgets that the Hulk only fights for the good of the whole. Mad and strong can also be dense and destructive. The Hulk works best when he is in unison with a team, and is a disaster when he is alone. Plus...he’s always got Dr. Banner with science and reason."
As for character assassination, don't you mean Remain group?
#447
Imagine that you live in Orwell's 1984. A totalitarian system capable of rewriting history using it's ability to distort reality.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
This story does just that. I've Googled this until I'm blue in the face but everywhere I get the returns like..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...imself-to-hulk
Now I used to think that the Grauniad was a serious source of the truth but Brexit has killed that stone dead.
The TRUE reference refers to an article in the Mail on Sunday... referred to in...
"The Prime Minister told the Mail on Sunday that, like the green-skinned comic book alter-ego of Bruce Banner, the country would "explode out of" its restraints, despite MPs moving to block a no-deal Brexit. "
It's clear that he was comparing the country to the Hulk, but this was deliberately distorted to compare a comic Johnson to the comic book character.
If the Leave group must descend to character assassination to make their case, then it's time they packed up and went home.
#448
From the DM:
In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, the Prime Minister says that if negotiations break down, he will ignore the Commons vote ordering him to delay the UK's departure, adding: 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.'
It seems he has extended the metaphor to himself. In any case, it's juvenile imagery. Worse than Trump, and that says something about the current leadership. I suppose it's pitched to appeal to Leavers, and might resonate with them.
As for character assassination, don't you mean Remain group?
In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, the Prime Minister says that if negotiations break down, he will ignore the Commons vote ordering him to delay the UK's departure, adding: 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.'
It seems he has extended the metaphor to himself. In any case, it's juvenile imagery. Worse than Trump, and that says something about the current leadership. I suppose it's pitched to appeal to Leavers, and might resonate with them.
As for character assassination, don't you mean Remain group?
It is entertaining though from a distance.
#450
There are only two UK papers with a successful internet strategy; the Mail and the Gruan. I don't think the quality of journalism in the former has been affected by chasing clicks. In the case of the latter I don't think the news reporting or the better columnists are significantly different. It's just that there's lots of added crap, Australian rugby scores being a trivial but illustrative example; they want clicks in Australia. Given that the internet isn't a particularly profitable venue for news organisations (Mail Online is most profitable but even Metro makes more than half as much profit), how are the publications that are unsuccessful online (Times, Indy, SuperSorawaySun, etc.) altered?



