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This is happening more and more though. People doing good, doing their job,, doing the right thing and getting beaten up for it. The three perpetrators should be jailed for life.

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True enough. The sort of thing I was thinking was a mate back in Bristol doing all the stuff he was supposed to do and then seeing Cummings doing what he did and all 'justified' by the PM and others. He's now decided he will disregard the advice if/when it doesn't suit him, but not all the time.

It's hard to blame him but if he disregards something then other people in his circle may see that and disregard different parts of the advice themselves and so on. Ultimately the blame for that breakdown in people following the advice goes to one place only. Number 10.

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And here's a useful video that comes up at the end of that one.

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If you gotta wear a mask, may as well make it creative. :lol:

Somewhere in Tennessee apparently, now the question is does he actually think the air filter helps, or is he just having some fun? It's TN so could go either way.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...c8301743ed.jpg

Found it on reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comment...van_county_tn/

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I just walk about in public wearing my gimp mask. It's great, it protects and people stay away from me. Win win. :thumbup:

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I do love Google! This morning I was blissfully unaware of what one was...I looked it up! I have evidently been living a bit of a sheltered life in NB!

Yesterday in the Superstore I think 90% of customers were in masks. The people who don't though seem to have some sort of attitude...

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Super Store and Wal Mart yesterday that I went to in Vancouver a couple times, it was about 30% with masks on, and 70% without, most employees at both stores also not wearing them.

But there is no legal mandate to wear masks here.

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Have you not seen Pulp Fiction?

Next you'll be saying you've never heard of an alternative use for a cheese grater :ohmy: :rofl:

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Might have to get me one of these Trump masks :lol:

https://suatmm.com/products/donald-trump-face-mask

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$4.99 didn't seem so expensive. Then I saw that was an addon to $20 :blink:

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Even more reason to wear a damn mask indoors.


2 hair stylists with COVID19 infection:

1. 139 clients served by both stylists
2. Stylists wore face masks at work
3. Clients all wore masks at salon
4. Of all who were followed up with (testing vs phone), nobody developed COVID19

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6928e2_e

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Good Lord what are these people like?

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...wearing-a-mask

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Crazy southern yanks.... its all about rights freedoms and the constitution its all you ever hear from them!

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And in Magaluff? Are they honorary southern yanks?

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City of Hamilton officials are voting on Friday whether to make mask wearing compulsary in enclosed spaces (such as stores) as from next week..... I for one am happy if they do - others, not so much.

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Exactly. They are the European/British equivalent without the rights freedoms and constitution weary old speil.... they would say that right to bear a pint of San Miguel instead of the right to bear arms twaddle.

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Wow...that sounds like a good plan...where do I sign up ? ...we get the same amount of sunshine too?

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Sylvan Lake was jam packed last weekend, there has been a spike in cases. Surprise surprise. My place of work is making masks compulsory for staff from Monday. We are allowed to wear our own and customize to our liking too.

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Seems an odd place to be giving out masks on a beach. Maybe they should be outside stores or malls i hardly think a boardwalk is the place for masks. It's the enclosed indoor spaces they should be concerned about.

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You don't appear to be up to date with the latest reports of transmission in outdoor spaces where people are relatively close together. Anyone who thinks that being outdoors is adequate mitigation against Corona virus transmission is sadly mistaken.

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Well neither does Dr Bonnie Henry or many other leading experts it would seem because we have been repeatedly told that outdoors is good and poorly ventilated indoors is bad. I have not heard of anything that states virus transmission is bad enough outdoors that we should be wearing masks permanently.

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Not "permantly", just not if you're not SDing.

You realize that some of what we're being told is to keep the infection rate low enough for the hospitals to be able to cope? Right?

The virus doesn't care about whether you're 6ft from others or 2m, or 1.5m, or whatever, and the government advisors are only trying to keep the numbers down. So if you want to protect yourself, you need to read behind the headlines and learn how to protect yourself, because keeping 6ft apart OR wearing a mask won't stop you getting the virus. Wearing a mask AND staying 6ft apart is better, but 8ft or 10ft is better still. .... Or stay home (as far as possible), as that is safer.

We took a strategic decision right at the start, as my wife has a history of pneumonia and bronchitis, that I would go alone, once a week, to buy groceries, because one person going shopping is half the risk of two people going shopping. And going shopping once per week is half the risk of going twice per week. And I go shopping before 8am, when the shops are very quiet (for a few weeks in March and April they were not so quiet early in the morning), because that is less risky than going later when the shops are busier.

I buy as many of the things my wife puts on the list as possible, add a few things I know we need, or that we use and are low on, or were previously out of stock, and then I'm done for the week - I don't go back looking for things that were out of stock until my next weekly trip, because extra trips means more risk.

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And that's all fine and it works well for you and if it keeps you safe and happy then i have no issue with what you are saying. It's interesting that even though most of us are using the 6ft or 2 metre rule we have always been told that farther apart is better yet in UK they reduced this when they allowed pubs to open and we all know how well social distance works after a few beers. There are too many differing rules and advice doing the rounds across the globe with regards to what should and shouldn't be done. Some don't give a bleep and others hide away until next year or maybe the year after. I like to look at the global figures to see just how bad things are and to be honest with over 13 million positive tests to date and just over half a million deaths it sounds like a lot of people until you consider there are 7.7 billion people in this world so in the grand scheme of things its a very small percentage to date.

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You didn't just view it as taking the piss out of covidiots then?

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Er yeah, nuf said! :rolleyes:
Per my previous post above, perhaps the biggest idiots are the ones who think that following "government advice" will keep them entirely safe; it won't! Governments are looking at averages and populations, not individuals, and keeping the infections and hospitalization rates low enough that there isn't a crisis. Governments are not interested in you and your family, as individuals.
As per above, averages and percentages work for governments, hospitals, and agencies such as the WHO, but such statistics are irrelevant for individuals and families. If you are part of the 10% who end up in hospital and the 1% who die, it is of no censequence that you are a part of an almost immeasurably small percentage of 7.7bn, the effect on your family is massive, and the effect on you is total, and final! :(

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I am massively surprised about the level of discussion here. I always wear a mask in any public building or publicly enclosed space, and would do so without hesitation even if the government would relax the rule. Wearing masks is not very pleasant, but the easiest thing to do, besides washing hands.

And while we're at it, buy Canadian:
https://i3biomedical.com/wp-content/...020pouchML.pdf

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That's what they were doing, but the point they were trying to make was just people have stupid excuses why they don't want a mask, and they got the footage they needed. They could have tried handing them out in a store line-up, but the beach makes for better video.

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:goodpost:

You can buy them on Well.ca - or on the official website (for an additional $2 but free shipping) in packs of 5. They are disposable :)

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Yes I know that's what they did. It was the post I responded to that appeared to miss the point of the video ;)

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Agreed - I started wearing a mask as soon as TSHTF back in March, even though at that time both the WHO and the US government said that mask wearing was unnecessary, unhelpful, or may even be harmful/ risky. ..... A very quick dig into the reasons for this advice was that (some) people wearing masks are forever touching their face to adjust and/or put on and take off their mask - which is an easy problem to solve. So I make a concious effort to not touch my mask after I first put it on, and it stays on, and AFAP untouched, from when I put it on until I am back in the car and ready to go home - in other words, if I am going to two or three places my mask stays on while I drive between them.

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I'd prefer to stay in and not go anywhere, but life doesn't stop unfortunately and its pretty much impossible to stay in since the only way to make income is to go out, so we go out about everyday into the mess that is the grocery store, where nobody distances, and few wear masks, but its the only way to make some money at the moment, so no real choice, but I'd prefer to work from home...ha ha

I noticed on our drive very few overall seem to wear masks, especially once outside of Vancouver.

Hardest part for me and masks is I find I do touch my face more, but I am working on making an effort, I also need to not feel weird when I am the only one with a mask on, I always feel weird when nobody else has one on.

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Here's an idea...when you have the order someone made on Instacart, instead of going to the supermarket, make your own order of those things with instacart and when the stuff gets delivered to you, you can then deliver it to the original customer. :rofl:
That would save going to the supermarket at least. For some reason I'm feeling silly today. :lol:

I touch my face too much - mostly the nose. It's not a habit I can break like flipping a switch. The advice not to touch your face clearly means that out and about you might transfer something to it. I figure a barrier there will help when I inevitably go to touch my face.

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Doesn't help that when wearing a mask, the moisture starts to make the skin covered by the mask itch, I carry a little box of tooth picks now, figure its slightly safer to use a tooth pick to deal with an itch but sometimes itch and before I can stop myself, my hand is on my face...lol

Your just a silly fella :p

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I often doubted Canada's approach to handling the Corona crisis. They always keep saying "based on scientific evidence" however that's often a lie. It's often a farce to brush responsibility off...

And regarding wearing masks, theoretically you should disinfect your hands prior to putting masks on and before removing the mask. This will insure, that you're not touching anything near your face with possible viruses on your hands.

However few people are doing this. It's probably a bit too much to ask, but the sensitive thing to do.

I think that compulsory masks anywhere indoors in public places, would bring the problem in the US better under control, probably within weeks. However they have Trump........who has an election to win, or rather to lose....

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On the subject of masks.. what type do you think is better or more comfortable to wear? Disposable? Cotton washable? Neoprene? Poly/Cotton? Other? Ones with a filter / without a filter? With ear loops or around the head straps or an all in one ( a bit like a balaclava ) ?

I have been struggling to find one that will work for me (hence why I haven't been in a store since February) - I wear hearing aids, and glasses.. and my ears do not lay flat (so elastic straps tend to 'ping' off them!) ...... any advice or thoughts?

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If you ask me, the one I've posted before: ( And, unfortunately it's not a matter of "comfort" )

https://i3biomedical.com/wp-content/...020pouchML.pdf

And not only because it's Canadian, it's the best on the market

Pls look for the "advantages" besides the "key features" on the PDF.


Also, look here:

https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2020/07/15/...2-coronavirus/

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Mine is a hybrid, home-brew mask - a disposable paper filter "https://www.amazon.com/Kimberly-Clark-Professional-Scott-Shop-Towel/dp/B00S0LBOQA (because that is what I had a supply of back in March) lined with a "https://www.amazon.com/Kimberly-Clark-Professional-Scott-Shop-Towel/dp/B00S0LBOQA" folded twice (four layers), because shop towels are reported to be particularly good filters, and then after hooking the elastic behind my head I use a neck gaiter to clamp the maks to my face and hold it tightly and firmly in place, leaving, I believe, no room for air to get into the mask without going through at least two layers of filtering material, and mostly four layers.

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https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...696953d3ea.jpg