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Siouxie Jul 30th 2020 2:05 pm

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12889436)
We have a population in Kelowna twice that and up until recently had nothing. Of course there may well have been infections and there were the usual rumours that a friend said a friend had COVID. I believe there was one case in hospital a while back and a handful of cases originating from workers associated with a local garden centre. There have also been the odd case where a worker tested positive and is isolating but no further spread to note. No local deaths at all. All of this was achieved WITHOUT wearing masks and pretty much stayed that way until the recent spike in cases due to out of town party people who went to private gatherings, and then spread it around a few pubs. There were at last count up to 90 people infected due to that group and allegedly up to 1000 isolating, however today we had zero cases reported in the Interior Health region which we are part of. There are around 750,000 in the interior and total cases to date 356. We still haven't mandated masks and i would be more concerned from your numbers since you have mandated them.

The population of Hamilton (2019) is 763,000 (it's a relatively large city) - there have been 881 confirmed cases; 143 people hospitalised - and 45 deaths. Social distancing has been in place since March - stores etc., (other than groceries. LCBO and pharmacies) had limited opening and pick up (curbside) or delivery only. Grocery and similar stores limited the number of people admitted at one time, had social distancing one way system etc., in place. Face coverings / masks are now mandated (as of 10 days ago) to enter most enclosed spaces, with big fines for not wearing them.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 6th 2020 8:23 am

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Wal-Mart next week will make masks mandatory in all their Canadian stores, majority of their stores are located where a mask mandate is in effect at the government level, so this really only affects stores located in areas where no mask mandate exist.

https://www.vicnews.com/news/face-ma...art-locations/





Piff Poff Aug 6th 2020 10:03 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12893468)
Wal-Mart next week will make masks mandatory in all their Canadian stores, majority of their stores are located where a mask mandate is in effect at the government level, so this really only affects stores located in areas where no mask mandate exist.

https://www.vicnews.com/news/face-ma...art-locations/

this won't make Mr Piff happy. He'll have to carry his own mask for his pops into Walmart now.

BristolUK Aug 8th 2020 1:31 am

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Giant Tiger had a good supply of masks when I dropped in a few days ago. Packs of 20 for $15.

But in the entrance they had a bar with loose ones dangling. $1 to go to the SPCA, just tell the cashier you picked one up.
Admirable.

Apart from the fact that someone unpacked them and then casually leaves them there uncovered for anyone to handle (or worse). It doesn't seem particularly hygienic.

Danny B Aug 8th 2020 9:32 am

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Karen is back at it.

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ask_at_planet/

BristolUK Aug 8th 2020 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12894241)

This one might have a case.

My first reaction was not needed if exercising outside, alone, but looking at a few governor mandate things they seem to allow an exemption for where strenuous activity may make breathing difficult and as long as social distancing can be maintained.

Unless she scared other members away, the distancing looked easy. But is it strenuous?

caretaker Aug 8th 2020 9:55 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12894251)
This one might have a case.

My first reaction was not needed if exercising outside, alone, but looking at a few governor mandate things they seem to allow an exemption for where strenuous activity may make breathing difficult and as long as social distancing can be maintained.
Unless she scared other members away, the distancing looked easy. But is it strenuous?

Just about any service industry business will have a sign somewhere around the front desk saying they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone they choose. She can probably get a refund for her membership.

BristolUK Aug 8th 2020 10:16 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12894253)
Just about any service industry business will have a sign somewhere around the front desk saying they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone they choose. She can probably get a refund for her membership.

I also couldn't escape the feeling that she was being sneaky when she asked him to remove his mask to understand what he was saying. :whistle:

spouse of scouse Aug 8th 2020 11:42 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12894241)

'You're cutting into my freedom of liberty' :rolleyes:

Her mouth got plenty of exercise anyway.

Danny B Aug 10th 2020 10:25 am

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Pretty interesting read

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ction-12046715


caretaker Aug 16th 2020 6:20 am

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My friend Mary is giving masks out to all of her friends. I've given a few away so I guess my karma just arrived:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b082def8ea.jpg

BristolUK Aug 16th 2020 10:07 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12897683)
My friend Mary is giving masks out to all of her friends. I've given a few away so I guess my karma just arrived:

Is it 'scented'? ;)

Atlantic Xpat Aug 17th 2020 12:21 am

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On the community facebook page for the area I live in last week, a rather earnest and well meaning (probably) lady was expounding on the benefits of using peppermint essential oil on your mask to assist with breathing and presumably make the world smell like foxes glacier mints. My assuming good intent take was that she was is trying to help people use masks (not yet mandated here but recommended), my cynical side is that she was shilling her essential oil guff to her neighbours and using a global pandemic to boost sales..

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 17th 2020 12:46 am

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My problem is dog hair, they all seem to attract dog hair.

Pulaski Aug 17th 2020 12:48 am

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Spain, along with the UK and most countries in Europe is now experiencing a second wave.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4c2ddddb87.jpg

And some people have responded by protesting against the mandatory mask requirements! :rolleyes:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b206648c1a.jpg

caretaker Aug 17th 2020 1:32 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 12897927)
On the community facebook page for the area I live in last week, a rather earnest and well meaning (probably) lady was expounding on the benefits of using peppermint essential oil on your mask to assist with breathing and presumably make the world smell like foxes glacier mints. My assuming good intent take was that she was is trying to help people use masks (not yet mandated here but recommended), my cynical side is that she was shilling her essential oil guff to her neighbours and using a global pandemic to boost sales..

She's promoting classic plague doctor methods, isn't she?, stuffing the beak with herbs to filter nasties (and possibly the smell of corpses).

Teaandtoday5 Aug 17th 2020 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12897932)
My problem is dog hair, they all seem to attract dog hair.

I’m pretty sure the inside of my lungs are already coated in dog hair. Hopefully it provides some sort of filtering effect.

BristolUK Aug 17th 2020 4:56 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 12897927)
On the community facebook page for the area I live in last week, a rather earnest and well meaning (probably) lady was expounding on the benefits of using peppermint essential oil on your mask to assist with breathing and presumably make the world smell like foxes glacier mints. My assuming good intent take was that she was is trying to help people use masks (not yet mandated here but recommended), my cynical side is that she was shilling her essential oil guff to her neighbours and using a global pandemic to boost sales..

Is there a bear on her product? ;)

spouse of scouse Aug 17th 2020 4:59 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12898063)
Is there a bear on her product? ;)

Because it's been a while since her last brazilian wax?

BristolUK Aug 17th 2020 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12898065)
Because it's been a while since her last brazilian wax?

:lol:
It sounds like you might not be aware of the mints.


Atlantic Xpat Aug 17th 2020 5:48 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12898063)
Is there a bear on her product? ;)

No....I made the Foxes Glacier Mint reference because,well, this is a British Expats forum...

Atlantic Xpat Aug 17th 2020 5:50 am

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Masks mandatory in public places (so offices, shops, transit but not, oddly, schools) in Newfoundland from next Monday 24th,

Pulaski Aug 17th 2020 5:58 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 12898083)
Masks mandatory in public places (so offices, shops, transit but not, oddly, schools) in Newfoundland from next Monday 24th,

Yeah, very odd, because it seems that just about everywhere that schools have reopened, coronavirus cases, or other unwelcome news reports, have followed. :(

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 8:23 am

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The short time we were at Wal-Mart (their credit and debit machines were down so we didn't get past the main entrance) seems the anti-mask folks method to get into the store is to look down, and walk/run as fast as they can past the Wal-Mart employee at the door, could tell the employees were annoyed, but to the stores credit they are handing masks out at the door, so there is no excuse not to have one on, but seems the anti-mask folks will find a way into a store and not wear a mask.


Pulaski Aug 17th 2020 8:30 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12898145)
.... to the stores credit they are handing masks out at the door, so there is no excuse not to have one on, but seems the anti-mask folks will find a way into a store and not wear a mask.

Which confirms my view that the anti-maskers are incredibly stupid, because surely the easiest way in would be to take a free mask, then take it off again as soon as you're in the store! :rolleyes: Or maybe even accepting a free mask is a sign of servitude to Bill Gates' Global Government New World Order? :rofl:

scrubbedexpat134 Aug 17th 2020 8:35 am

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Just went to Kamloops Walmart, credit and debit down so all the self serve checkouts out of action, only the few regular check outs open so they must have been taking cash only, lots of pissed off people absolute bedlam in there.I have noticed that since walmart made masks mandatory the parking lot has been alot less congested.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 8:41 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Cheltonian (Post 12898156)
Just went to Kamloops Walmart, credit and debit down so all the self serve checkouts out of action, only the few regular check outs open so they must have been taking cash only, lots of pissed off people absolute bedlam in there.I have noticed that since walmart made masks mandatory the parking lot has been alot less congested.

Same at the West Kelowna Wal-Mart except they were telling everyone coming in cash only, so people were just leaving right away, not many carry cash these days.





Danny B Aug 17th 2020 9:04 am

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I honestly think that it will take some people 'years' to come around to the idea of wearing a mask to go shopping.

This compilation video of people freaking out over masks gave me a chuckle, and made me sad at the same time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...together_lots/


scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 9:13 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12898165)
I honestly think that it will take some people 'years' to come around to the idea of wearing a mask to go shopping.

This compilation video of people freaking out over masks gave me a chuckle, and made me sad at the same time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...together_lots/


I never thought a pandemic and masks would be such a conspiracy driven thing. I do wonder if people were more cooperative in the Spanish Flu pandemic, or if behavior was the same or similiar, to what we are seeing.

While that reddit post is titled in America, I notice some Canadian anti-mask folks have made it, I see a Tim Hortons and a CIBC in the background in one clip, and what I think might be a street sign in Toronto in another.

Pulaski Aug 17th 2020 9:22 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12898170)
I never thought a pandemic and masks would be such a conspiracy driven thing. I do wonder if people were more cooperative in the Spanish Flu pandemic, or if behavior was the same or similiar, to what we are seeing. .....

From, everything I've seen and heard the progress of the 1918-1921 flu pandemic was almost exactly the same, masks were recommended, some people wore them, some did not, and some people who refused claimed that their "rights" were being infringed and the restrictions and masks were some sort of attempt to suppress them. Early attempts to control the spread were successful, but then people thought is was over and were either bored with the restrictions, or rebelious, and so restrictions got relaxed/ ignored and there was a second wave. .... Exactly the same as is happening now in the UK and Europe, and a number of other countries. :nod;

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 9:28 am

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12898176)
From, everything I've seen and heard the progress of the 1918-1921 flu pandemic was almost exactly the same, masks were recommended, some people wore them, some did not, and some people who refused claimed that their "rights" were being infringed and the restrictions and masks were some sort of attempt to suppress them. Early attempts to control the spread were successful, but then people thought is was over and were either bored with the restrictions, or rebelious, and so restrictions got relaxed/ ignored and there was a second wave. .... Exactly the same as is happening now in the UK and Europe, and a number of other countries. :nod;

I suspected it was likely similiar, humans in many ways can be predictable.



scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 9:32 am

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Winners, HomeSense and Marshalls will now require customers to wear masks following the parent companies policy in the US where masks have been required for several weeks now.




Pulaski Aug 17th 2020 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12898180)
I suspected it was likely similiar, humans in many ways can be predictable.

Unfortunately that is true. :(

Among the many bizarre, ridicuous and stupid branches to the nonsensical conspiracy theory of covid-19 is that because it was predicted that a pandemic would occur (just not when), and the method of transmission was predictable, and that was because of medical science, epidemiology, and statistics (which conspiracy loons don't understand, and therefore entirely discount), those successful predictions are being used to conclude that the pandemic was "planned". "Predicted" is not the same as "planned"! :frown:

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 17th 2020 9:48 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12898184)
Unfortunately that is true. :(

Among the many bizarre, ridicuous and stupid branches to the nonsensical conspiracy theory of covid-19 is that because it was predicted that a pandemic would occur (just not when), and the method of transmission was predictable, and that was because of medical science, epidemiology, and statistics (which conspiracy loons don't understand, and therefore entirely discount), those successful predictions are being used to conclude that the pandemic was "planned". "Predicted" is not the same as "planned"! :frown:


My wife has some very religious friends, like super religious, and they all believe this is the start of the rapture, and literally preparing for it. I try not to laugh when I hear them on the phone with my wife. :rofl:

printer Aug 17th 2020 5:13 pm

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12898160)
Same at the West Kelowna Wal-Mart except they were telling everyone coming in cash only, so people were just leaving right away, not many carry cash these days.

That's because cash became the enemy and everywhere stopped taking it for fear of getting the virus from a bank note. Funny how a sudden problem with technical stuff creates so much grief when we are forced to go back to the old way of paying for services and of course just how welcome those "dirty notes" are all of a sudden!

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 18th 2020 12:39 am

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There is a coin shortage in the US, well I have seen signs asking for change and was told that was one of the reasons they like you to round up your payment with the balance going to a good cause.

Pulaski Aug 18th 2020 12:49 am

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12898409)
There is a coin shortage in the US, well I have seen signs asking for change and was told that was one of the reasons they like you to round up your payment with the balance going to a good cause.

I can't remember the last time I paid cash for anything - it was some time ago, for sure. Obviously I paid cash for lotterty tickets, but haven't bought one of those in over a year. ..... I know I haven't paid cash for anything since before March, but before that .... ???

BristolUK Aug 18th 2020 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by printer (Post 12898278)
That's because cash became the enemy and everywhere stopped taking it for fear of getting the virus from a bank note. Funny how a sudden problem with technical stuff creates so much grief when we are forced to go back to the old way of paying for services and of course just how welcome those "dirty notes" are all of a sudden!

In this case though, it seems the store was willing to accept cash. People walking away was probably not because they were unwilling to use cash, more that they didn't have the odd hundred or two hundred bucks on them.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 18th 2020 2:37 am

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I would pay cash for something small, I know the fees they get charged.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 18th 2020 2:57 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12898444)
In this case though, it seems the store was willing to accept cash. People walking away was probably not because they were unwilling to use cash, more that they didn't have the odd hundred or two hundred bucks on them.

Yes Wal-Mart was quite happy to accept cash, of course most as you say likely lacked the cash they needed to pay for the purchase, Wal-Mart as far as I know never stopped accepting cash like some places did, seemed to be mostly small businesses that stopped accepting cash, but I noticed in Vancouver many of them went back to accepting cash.

I prefer cash and generally would use almost all cash, but stopped in March when places got all uppity over cash, but now seems most places are back to normal business wise, so may go back to cash.

Because we are on a limited budget, easier to deal with cash, pay bills, leave rent in account, withdraw the rest for daily necessities.

If we had been buying for ourselves, I would have just gone to the ATM and gotten cash, but it was shopping for instacart so that option wasn't available.


I think Wal-Mart may want to invest in big burly security guards to enforce the mask rule, the 70-80 something greeter well the anti-mask types don't listen, but maybe if there was a more opposing looking force at the door, they might.






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