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drinking ?? Common sense I think. I didn’t make the rules the U.K. government did.

im not saying it’s a hoax just overly exaggerated and excessively policed in my opinion.

a 14 year old kid in Spain was dragged to the floor and the cop was knelt on his neck because he didn’t have his mask over his nose as-well as his mouth. Pretty appalling anyone would think he had a machine gun walking through town.

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I agree, mask wearing does seem to be over policed in certain countries, but don't forget that this is new territory for 1st world countries. They haven't been used to this type of thing since 1918.

God knows what would happen if some of these non believers spent some time in hospital wards in Malaria countries. I agree that a healthy person catching COVID is nothing like a healthy person catching Malaria. I think that's part of the problem. A lot of people think it's just the flu bro. Which it is. It doesn't kill a child every 2 mins like Malaria does so not everyone is in panic mode.

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I had to read your original post 3 times before I could discern any coherent thoughts from it :)

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I said similar about the 3 year old mask incident but got a lot of flack from others who believed this is all OK in the "new normal" society we are living in.

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So my statement was correct then? You said nothing different in this post or did i miss an important point? Oh the 90% is that what you mean. I guess that's a reduced risk, maybe it's 80% who's to know. Fact remains as far as i am aware the virus is carried in droplets that masks are supposed to prevent you and I spreading and the longer the close contact the higher the risk. So no mask and 6 ft minimum is ok or mask up and get close.
Remain very close and remove mask not so good!

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I don't know anyone who has had Covid. One daughter had malaria, another had SARS which is, I suppose, as close as one can get to Covid. The SARs was much more serious, long time in intensive cars, real risk of death. I'm not trivialising malaria, that's a serious disease, but I don't see how it comes into the picture, it's not going to kill 200,000 people on this continent.

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These folks don't like masks, apparently in Florida, no surprise really.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak..._wearyourmask/

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No, that's why I corrected it. Your version had zero accuracy with what I said.

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And that is my point. We are spoilt brats here in the North America and Western Europe and we don't have to deal with diseases like Malaria, Dengue fever, Japanese encephalitis etc. Can you imagine the hysteria if all of a sudden a mosquito made its way into North America that transmitted these diseases? People would lose their minds.

All we have been asked to do is to wear a bleeding mask and keep 6' apart from people we don't know. That's it.

I am getting sick and tired of the 24x7 news coverage of COVID stats. We know how it is transmitted, we know how it is prevented, we know who it affects the most, we know scientists are working hard on a vaccine, deal with it bitches. We have it so easy compared to other parts of the world.

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makes me wonder how on earth our parents/grandparents managed to get through WW1 & WW2, the depression etc. :unsure:

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Our grand parents were a different breed.
Now we have social media influencers and cancel culture for when people get offended. :o

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Oh yes, fair enough. I'm completely adjusted to 6' and wearing a mask. It's no bother. I'm far from sure to live long enough to see the end of that need.

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People often had to put heavy, uncomfortable gas masks on and evacuate their homes and go to air raid shelters during the day and night. They were happy to be alive...not whining about wearing a flimsy masks over their nose and mouth. Honestly...get a grip people. :rolleyes:

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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...cd128df2de.png

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Sorry you lost me here. I don't see what you are getting at? I said you would feel totally safe sat with people without masks for short time and you corrected me with your actual words that said you thought it was an acceptable risk as you would also be doing it. So you are ok with it? Or aren't you? Because i don't see how you think i have it so wrong except maybe use of a different phrase. If you are NOT comfortable then my post had zero accuracy

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In 1918 Spanish flu killed an estimated 50 million people of the worlds population of 1.8 billion.
coronavirus has killed around 950,000.
to be declared as an actual pandemic it should of killed over 200 million people by now.
By the summer of 1919 Spanish flu came to an end people had built up immunity to it so it wasn’t killing what it was.
coronavirus isn’t going away until the majority of the population has built up immunity to it look at Sweden now.

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According to the Graun less than 1% of deaths in the UK are COVID related. So what about the rest?

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I realise there's no point to this but you just said it yourself. Look at the two bolded parts. How is "totally safe" the same as "acceptable risk"? It's not. It's not the same even without the other bits of context (like the reference to the other 90% of the time) that make it even less the same.

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7th highest deaths per million pop in Europe out of 48.
9th highest death total
10th most cases per million pop.

Yes, not very good is it.

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Sweden

According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), the Scandinavian country’s 14-day cumulative total of new cases was 22.2 per 100,000 inhabitants on Tuesday, against 279 in Spain, 158.5 in France, 118 in the Czech Republic, 77 in Belgium and 59 in the UK, all of which imposed lockdowns this spring.

Twenty-two of the 31 European countries surveyed by the ECDC had higher infection rates. New cases, now reported in Sweden only from Tuesday to Friday, are running at roughly the rate seen in late-March, while data from the national health agency showed only 1.2% of its 120,000 tests last week came back positive.

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The population of Sweden -- and therefore the chances of meeting and connecting to someone who has the virus -- is somewhat isolated and small... but those that do, don't do well. Comparing Sweden to other EC countries is like comparing apples and banana's = they aren't the same density. :p

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hmmm ok crazy they even include them in a national survey and allow for population DENSITY 😛.
got me thinking where does the city of Stockholm in Sweden rank in terms of population density out of all the European cities.
well out of the 44 European cities Stockholm ranked 25th for density. And has lower cases than other cities ranked well below it for population density so I wonder how the cases there have risen more with fewer people in as close proximity. Strange. Oh well must just be one of those things. Damn nature.

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Here you go :)
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/c...20..2025-07-22

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This in Kelowna, pure entertainment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kelowna/com...cannot_wear_a/

even made the weird little news website this area has (reminds me of websites from the 1990's)

Some quotes she provided to the news people.

"I felt like I was under, I don't want to sound dramatic, but it was like great grievous bodily mental harm," Faechner told Castanet.

"I call myself a Christ crusader and people with faith, they don't just outright lie because they have a creator that they have to answer to at some point," she says. "I'm not going to outright lie, I just think something's happened to humans where we've just lost our sense of humanity."

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelown...rcation#311053


Have to hand it to the security guard he was a lot more patient than I would have been.

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Yeah well if you need to see what kind of person she is a quick look on her facebook page says it all.
We also had an anti mask, anti virus demo today by the bridge. One classic placard read "be a warrior not a worrier"

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They seem to be out semi-often but they seem to change places, or its different groups. I have seen some at the base of the main bridge going over the lake, as well as a small bridge in town that goes over the road, not sure of the exact location, some of their signs are interesting.

I had someone call me a sheeple when going into Wal-Mart last week, presumably because I had a mask on.

I am still entertained with her facebook, crazy stuff there like this

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fb5ca29377.png

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I was in Canadian Tire today and none of the staff were wearing masks; I wasn't really expecting that.

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[QUOTE=printer;12912051]Yeah well if you need to see what kind of person she is a quick look on her facebook page says it all.
We also had an anti mask, anti virus demo today by the bridge. One classic placard read "be a warrior not a worrier"[/QUOTE]

That reminds me of a comment someone made to me the other day in a private message on FB .. she said "you've been fearful since March"....... I replied I'm CAREFUL not Fearful...... there's a huge difference!

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Sweden is one of the few countries left in the world that does not recommend a mask.

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Time to upgrade folks

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/thr...-tam-1.5787946

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Masks become mandatory in indoor public spaces in Regina, Saskatoon, and Prince Albert on Friday, and that's going to be reviewed after 28 days. Even though the numbers seem low in comparison, apparently our infection rate per 100,000 is higher than Ontario's now.
https://leaderpost.com/news/saskatch...2-4af4233ad75f

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Other then the tag saying 100% polyester, I don't know how many layers it has. Took months to find a mask that actually fit, some reason all the masks seem to be on the small side, they all fit my wife perfectly, but I had trouble finding one that was a good fit in local stores.

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I wonder if a neck gaitor (with filter pocket) might work for you? You can buy extra filters that fit (this is what I use now) - any of them that have a filter pocket could work.. :)
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08G86JWL4/ref=crt_ewc_title_huc_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A13VGFDPBB0IW3https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08BZ8H14R/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2TKKMUPLIVROL

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I want to try one like this. I wonder if it might be less likely to steam up your specs.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...74d84296fa.jpg

But I've only seen it in a photo on CBC website, nowhere else.

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I think i suggested a while back that this whole mask thing would end up with certain specific types being recommended and eventually mandated. It's already happened in the airline industry and now the very person who said there was no need for masks is now saying they should be 3 layer. Personally i don't care how many layers, it has to be comfortable and breathable and not fog up my glasses as there is nothing so annoying when trying to see and being met with a fog.

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This businrss of callng people cowards for protecting themselves is a bit rich really. Also calling out people as cowards and faithless by some of these christians is offensive. Its not much help for the young people who naturally struggle with all these regulations for social distancing, with no parties allowed and mandates for masking up. Or for the older people who really need support to isolate for their protection.


We purchased two professional masks with filters made from copper, they attach around the back of the neck and top of our heads. They can't slip off. No more worry about any unfiltered air getting in and they fit tight all around and at the nose with a rubber part so no fog. They are warm, good for this time of year, a little warm for summertime. The filters are washable and came with a replacememt set. They come in a few different colours.

Whatever it takes we just do the best we can to stay alive and hope our savings lasts out until things take a change for the better.

it doesn't much matter what people say because its a dangerous disease if you are at risk and vulnerable which requires actions not words.

My grandparents got through Spanish flu, WWI and WWII. All farmers. A tough lot with abundant comman sense. They kept life simple and tidy, worked hard, were never well off, just frugal so they made whatever they had work out. They had faith in God but it didn't make them stupid. I hope I got a little of what they had.

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Mine has been three layers since I first donned one back in March. Mine consists of a folded disposable "shop towel", which fits inside (well it sticks out a bit) a basic paper "cup mask", and then although the cup mask has an elastic loop to hold it in place, I use a neck gaiter to clamp the lined cup mask to my face, so there is minimal room for air to bypass the lined cup mask.

I wear glasses too, and the degree to which they fog up seems to vary on how exactly I position the mask. This is going to become more critical in the colder winter weather, I guess.

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“All healthcare facilities must provide medical masks for all health care workers, nonclinical staff, patients, and visitors.”

Visitors, staff, and patients will now be required to wear medical masks in all healthcare settings in B.C.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/11...re-facilities/


* I am not sure how hospitals and such will be able to do this, considering the nurse at the hospital last week I was talking with said masks were still in short supply for medical staff.