What the UK needs right now is Paul Kersey in a bad mood

Wots any of this got to do with the riots. No one mentioned him when interviewed about looting and burning stuff. They just said its fun to to get free stuff.

So we gona get more riots because of the 3 lads who got killed last night.

Can't say I blame them. Everyone wants free stuff.

Bum tish!

The bbc news say that they are bracing for racist repocusions from the 3 guys murdered last night. OMG

I just noticed the view counts on these two hot topic threads. Quite surprised to see that people have more interest in losing Radio 1 vs riots in the motherland

I haven't read the Sirius thread, is it good?

It's full of newbies which is good for the community if some of them stay. Although gremmie did try to scare them away, he got told off for his troubles.

Not really

Disturbingly, I still sense his presence. I fear he and his little black and white dog are staring, unblinking, at the screen, reloading this site repeatedly, waiting for something to happen... something to correct with the blatant use of unsubtle blatantness.

He's my hero........want him to made Minister for Immigration.....

Yours might well be but the idea that his was is about as plausible as the possibility that he was on the way to the library. Perhaps they have some good books on gun maintenance there at the branch in Tottenham?

Do you know these SO19 types? I do, very well.

Ricochet is the most likely explanation. One officer fires off two shots. One lodges in Duggan's chest and the other hits a bone and comes out of the body at a wierd angle and hits another police officer. It's a risk of the job I guess.

I see a magic bullet theory being constructed all over again. I used to shop at Tottenham's retail park. No grassy knolls anywhere in sight.

No trouble tonight.

Is that it now? Time to clean up and fill in insurance forms.

Shut down BBM instantly. Those using social media as a force for good used Twitter and Facebook not something private and encrypted. I agree with Greenhill that there was organization behind this; anyone thinking that this was just stupid opportunism is naive, though I'm sure many kids in the crowd did jump on the bandwagon.

Had Johnson and Cameron back sooner from their beach holidays and not in response to seeing Clegg and Livingstone out on the streets much sooner. If Cameron claims any credit for the shut down of these riots he's a bigger prick than I think he is already. Deploying so many police to the capital on day 3 from forces around the UK merely helped to fuel the expansion of the problems to other cities. 100 per cent this was about damage limitation in the eyes of the IOC.

Probably been tougher on the first day. The police were so terrified of a repeat of 1985 that I think they almost helped empower the rioters.

If I was Cameron I'd be thinking: did I contribute to this problem by shafting Britain's most deprived people with my policies these past 14 months while at the same time handing out plenty to Britain's most elite and wealthy 1 per cent?

Just to be clear on this I do not condone the violence or troubles at all. It's sickening. But, filling our jails with many more young people is wrong. Let's punish the ring-leaders really hard but get the rest on the streets doing some community service.

Brilliant.