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Old Dec 16th 2009 | 5:06 pm
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What I don't understand though is why you keep harping on about it.

You joined with the express intention of telling people how awful was your experience of Canada, and you did so, at length, in your first post: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...45#post8078045

Now you say you are not going to publicly discuss your reasons, but you already did so, at length, in your first post.

I'm sorry Canada did not work out for you, but I don't think your stay in Vancouver is necessarily indicative of the whole of Canada, or bears, necessarily, any relation to what many of us enjoy about living here. BC is not called "bring cash" for no reason, it is bloody expensive. Believe it or not, there are often posts from people complaining about what is "wrong" with Canada. Read them!

Some go home. Others love it here. Some move successfully within Canada to find what they were hoping for. Some just like to come on here and moan!

It's definitely "horses for courses", but that's hardly earth-shattering news now is it. I think telling people "don't move here" is plain silly.

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Old Dec 16th 2009 | 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
But then again ever thought it might be? Certain events most likely would have not come to fruitation but for the fact that a move to Canada was under taken. Indeed Canada could be symbolic as similar outcomes may have resulted if the country in question was Australia or New Zealand or United States. But Canada is the location of the respondent and reading this account it sounds to have been a mighty difficult time. Canada has not worked for this person but perhaps a little extreme to tell others to avoid coming. Canada for certain does it for some folk for sure...
That is the point though, people blame a geo political entity too often on this forum. Whether it be the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, NZ ,etc,.. it is a psychological outlet. "Canada ruined my marriage"? Umm, Canada does not actively force divorce, unless the poster was married to a child or had 15 wives or something. The fact that he chose a user name "Canadian critic" suggests that this person has made up their mind when they first joined and by stereotyping an entire nationality of people based on his likely very limited interaction as "stepford wives" and then asking people to pm him for his view doesn't really gain much in the way of sympathy from me.
If the person wants to point out some things he wasn't aware of or that were different than he expected after he came so that others may benefit then sure, but lets face it, all this person wants to do is engage in tabloid gossip directed at a country in order to elevate their self esteem.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 5:26 pm
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The world is full of successful and unsuccessful people, sometimes their circumstances are down to good or bad fortune, sometimes good or bad timing. Decisions we make can affect us in ways not always immediately apparent, but to blame a whole country for a series of issues/failures or however you want to term them, seems somewhat illogical.

Perhaps you underestimated the effort required to be successful here, perhaps your qualifications and experience weren't easily translated, perhaps your family never adjusted or felt at home.....whatever the reason, keep things in perspective and move on to better things for your circumstances, but don't decry those of us that have made it work here and are living respectable and fruitful lives.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by R I C H
The world is full of successful and unsuccessful people, sometimes their circumstances are down to good or bad fortune, sometimes good or bad timing. Decisions we make can affect us in ways not always immediately apparent, but to blame a whole country for a series of issues/failures or however you want to term them, seems somewhat illogical.

Perhaps you underestimated the effort required to be successful here, perhaps your qualifications and experience weren't easily translated, perhaps your family never adjusted or felt at home.....whatever the reason, keep things in perspective and move on to better things for your circumstances, but don't decry those of us that have made it work here and are living respectable and fruitful lives.
I couldn't agree more. Very well put Rich.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 6:09 pm
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Living an Expat Life is hard bloody work at times, no one should under estimate it. When you move here you do seem to have to prove yourself, your rebuilding a whole new life from scrach.

When you first turn up you have no friends, family contact is a little harder back in the UK. You and your loved ones have to be solid. There are so many hard times, even the simple things at first are hard work.

We have been in Edmonton just over a year and still have some bumps along the way. People are the same everywhere you go, the Canadians really aren't that bad.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 6:22 pm
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Although there maybe truth in this post, canadian critic has posted many times before with the exact same stuff. In fact isn't this a cut and paste job?
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Yup. The country decided to centre you out in particular to abuse. I am 100% positive that the country invited you personally to come - no wait, Canada forced you to leave your oh so perfect home in UK.

I remember when my first husband and I were going through our divorce the rabbi saying something along the lines of "it's easier to blame others for mistakes than to look in the mirror where the blame begins". Perhaps your marriage was not as solid as you thought if emigrating broke it up.

And please, don't blame 30 million people for your choices. Not all Canadians are like you describe. Some of us are actually very nice people. (Not me, mind. I'm a miserable Stepford wife)
That's actually not what I'm saying. Like many here you seem to thrive on posts like mine to demonstrate how sarcastic you are. Very amusing but not what I'm saying.

When I moved to Canada I was delighted and YES it was my choice, and NO nobody forced me. But you don't really get to know a place until you move there. Since moving I've experienced appalling unemployment, unprecedented financial hardship, mental illness and depression within my family, marriage breakdown. ALL of this happened since I moved to Canada.

For your information, I spent way too much time looking in the mirror and blaming myself. Yet now I see it more clearly almost all of the problems have been caused by Canada. And by that I mean Canadians with their attitudes, ethics, behaviour, lifestyles.

It's so easy to assume that this would have happened in Britain. But it did not. It happened in Canada and it has ****ed up my life so please excuse me if I feel the need to tell others about it, and I don't apologize for being a tad frustrated.

I could equally well turn your argument around on yourself and say don't assume just because you have an oh so perfect life in Canada that everybody else does. I didn't have a perfect life in Britain but compared with my experience in Canada it most certainly was.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by bodgerx
canadian critic has posted many times before with the exact same stuff
I only joined in November!
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by canadian_critic
Most of these responses are simply abuse/bullying. Just because these may be my experiences, doesn't mean nobody else can have them. I'm rightfully sharing my abysmal experience in Canada for those open minded enough to read. if you don't like what you read then either take note or sod off. It's your funeral.

But unfortunately the reason I write this is simply there's not enough people like me speaking my mind on these forums, but plenty of people like some of you who make personal attacks on anyone who doesn't share your view, and compete like children to be smart asses with your remarks. And you probably fit in really well in Canada because Canada is exactly like this.

It's pretty easy for me to blame the country as it's directly caused me and my family misery and hardship. My marriage falling apart was a direct consequence of this. If I could get on a flight tonight I wouldn't be sitting her writing this. But soon, very very soon.
I also agree with others that I think you are blaming Canada for something that may have been a little closer to home. (and thats not a personal attack)

I can name people without even thinking hard that have experienced every major life setback imaginable since being here, relationship break ups, job losses, house losses, house issues, kid problems, depression, money worries, immigration problems, death, serious illness, accidents .......... (hell most of em in the same province as me (actually most of them me hahaha!!) but we just chalk it up to some of the shit that life throws at you.

And it does throw it - hard sometimes. But to blame a country is wrong. It may well be that these things would have happened in the UK, and you would have felt better equipped to deal with them due to your support network and familiarity of being there, the move to Canada might have just made some of these events happen sooner than they have.

Whatever you have been through i'm sorry, it truly sucks when your life doesn't pan out the way you thought it should - I hope you fare better in the UK and you can start picking up the pieces.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by canadian_critic
I only joined in November!
Your point being?
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
you don't see any? really - I see a bit in the above. There was a point when this forum was overly negative, but now-a-days anything even remotely negative gets pounced on and denounced as tiresome or wrong. I actually think some posters seek out negative posts just to stick the boot in.

Mr critic hasn't given any details about his situation, but we can all jump to the conclusion that it's entirely his fault his life in Canana isn't working out the way he thought, or that it's his fault his marriage is in the crapper. Yeah, nice bunch of people you lot. No wonder he's pissed off.
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Old Dec 17th 2009 | 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by mandymoochops
It may well be that these things would have happened in the UK, and you would have felt better equipped to deal with them due to your support network and familiarity of being there, the move to Canada might have just made some of these events happen sooner than they have.

Whatever you have been through i'm sorry, it truly sucks when your life doesn't pan out the way you thought it should - I hope you fare better in the UK and you can start picking up the pieces.
I echo mandy's sentiments - support when things are going down the pan cannot be underestimated - good luck with the future and I hope things improve for all of you
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 12:43 am
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Reading through the OP's posts, i feel for them going through what seems to have been a rough ride with a lacking support network.

I also personally think that the whole post emigration process could have been a trigger. Mental issues / depression / divorce etc generally require a trigger of some form and this high stress factor could easily be it. So whether the OP was in Canada, UK, or Timbuktu, the issues they have faced could have happened at some point.

I hope you find some form of contentment with your next move and your family (kids) are ok.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 12:51 am
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So you hate Canada, it's a crap country, but you have no specific examples to quote just a rant.

Reading through your post, you do know Canada is the country above the United States, situated in North American don't you? The big country where people speak Mandarin or Cantonese is China. Just making sure you didn't move to the wrong one as I can't see anything of Canada in your original post.
 
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I like it in Canada, but I refuse to share my reasons with you miserable lot, you will only bully me by pointing out the flaws in my life. With the exception of about 5-10 snow days my kids go to school every day here, my job is OK, my marriage strong and my kids happy. But then maybe I am just escaping my responsibilities
 


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