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Old Jul 3rd 2016 | 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
Yes indeed. It's always best to think long-term, people.
Mind you Gordon that graph is pretty sheer, could hit a historic high soon.
 
Old Jul 3rd 2016 | 11:49 pm
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Farage Ducks out of the Brexit mess

Nigel Farage, UKIP leader and top Leave campaigner, stepping down after Brexit victory - World - CBC News
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 12:11 am
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The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 12:56 am
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You could start a party campaigning on a remain/reentry vote.

UK4EU or similar.
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 12:59 am
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Originally Posted by holly_1948
The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.
Its not quite achieved yet though is it.. right now its just a vote
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by holly_1948
The entire UKIP party becomes pointless, unneeded, once independence has been achieved.
Putting aside the for and against issues, that's a bit like saying now that there are maternity rights, minimum wage rates etc that there is no need for trade unions which is patently nonsense.

If you really felt independence had been taken away wouldn't you want something in place to prevent it happening again?
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
You could start a party campaigning on a remain/reentry vote.

UK4EU or similar.
You forgot the heart
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 3:22 am
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A possible step in the right direction...

Angela Merkel 'to oust Jean-Claude Juncker' as Europe splits deepen over Brexit response
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by jimf
He does seem to be very antagonistic. It's a bit questionable that the entire direction of Britain and Europe can come down to the personal leanings of key individuals. For instance a Eurosceptic like Leadsom will take a very different approach and timing than a more moderate individual like May. Normal in electing a government, but not in deciding the fate of the region.
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
He does seem to be very antagonistic. It's a bit questionable that the entire direction of Britain and Europe can come down to the personal leanings of key individuals. For instance a Eurosceptic like Leadsom will take a very different approach and timing than a more moderate individual like May. Normal in electing a government, but not in deciding the fate of the region.
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Old Jul 4th 2016 | 10:49 pm
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Yes, slightly ambiguous wording. I meant more moderate in respect of Brexit. She seems to be willing to backslide somewhat.
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
You forgot the heart
You do the marketing and I'll swing a metric measure of beer around while uttering some "common sense" advice. Did you know for example there are a boat load of beautiful, blonde Swedish girls who are gagging to meet a British fellas because they admire their beer bellies? That's a little secret your pro-brexit government forgot to mention when you where about to leave.

Wait until I tell you all about the French wine that doesn't give you hangovers and German cars so cheap and safe children can drive themselves to school. For years the good stuff has been kept from you but we at UK4EU (or UK<3EU) will bring you all of this and free gelato for everybody.
 
Old Jul 4th 2016 | 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Snowy560
Just because we live in Canada does that mean we shouldn't be concerned about what is happening in our country of citizenship? It's the only citizenship I have, I may have to go back to live there or my kids may choose to do so.

Personally, I identify as an EU citizen but it's clear that soon I won't be able to so. That makes me feel quite strange because it will be taken away from me, but I would also say that these feelings don't dilute my commitment to living in Canada. Issues of identity and belonging are not simple, black and white (to me it's not either British or English, or European or Canadian).

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You seem to suggest the common misconception that there are citizens of the UK. There aren't as they are all 'subjects' and since there is no written constitution or bill of rights they have all the rights of the serf granted in 1215 by King John in Magna Carta. The Cons government strenuously objected to a bill of rights/ constitution - maybe because politicians couldn't then do what they wanted.
Currently they are citizens of the EU though. One example of the difference is that occupational pensions are considered part of earned income (deferred salary) in the EU and belong to the worker but in the UK it is part of the company assets and belong to the owner - hence the problems with Tata Steel and others who can asset strip pension funds and make the Government, ie the taxpayers, take the liability.
 
Old Jul 5th 2016 | 12:18 am
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You forgot to mention that King John enjoyed a gold plated pension.
 
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Originally Posted by thefishnets
You seem to suggest the common misconception that there are citizens of the UK. There aren't as they are all 'subjects' and since there is no written constitution or bill of rights they have all the rights of the serf granted in 1215 by King John in Magna Carta. The Cons government strenuously objected to a bill of rights/ constitution - maybe because politicians couldn't then do what they wanted.
Currently they are citizens of the EU though. One example of the difference is that occupational pensions are considered part of earned income (deferred salary) in the EU and belong to the worker but in the UK it is part of the company assets and belong to the owner - hence the problems with Tata Steel and others who can asset strip pension funds and make the Government, ie the taxpayers, take the liability.
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