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Alan2005 Jun 30th 2016 1:10 pm

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11990561)
Theresa May is a fascist is waiting, she;s not in a position to rule anything out.

Yeah, I'd take pray-out-the-gay man over her.

withabix Jun 30th 2016 1:39 pm

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11990474)
So Theresa May it is then?

Although what I really want is a GE, Tories overthrown and Labour (?) in and another referendum called which galvanizes those that didn't vote and those that have now changed their mind to swing it the other way.... Odds?:rofl:

Labour haven't got a hope since their lunge to the left.

Tirytory Jun 30th 2016 1:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 11990606)
Thankfully so, before the GPs rip him limb from limb

Oh he definitely would have been Hobson's choice- it would be like making a deal with the devil but he's the only who I'd read would have called for an election..

JonboyE Jun 30th 2016 1:58 pm

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I am not aware if there is any way to revoke an article 50 election. Once the UK gives notice under the article the UK it is out one way or another.

dbd33 Jun 30th 2016 2:58 pm

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11990504)
Odds? Very good IMHO .:thumbsup:

I dunno about the thumbs up.

Labour are in chaos so a general election makes the kippers the official opposition. That forces PM May or Gove to the right. The Great British public are left looking wistfully at that nice moderate Trump fellow.

thefishnets Jun 30th 2016 10:00 pm

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Lots of talk over having a General Election but that would require legislation - Cameron passed a law stating that GE's were at fixed 5 year terms, and of course there would be nothing to stop the European Parliament changing the provisions of Article 50 and forcing Brexit if they all felt strongly enough.
The most frightening case would probably be to end up with a policyless xenophobic load of UKIP MP's getting into power. To date they have produced no sensible or implementable policies only a 'get out of Europe chant' and a succession of media-grabbing headlines to convince the thickest guys that everything is being overrun by migrants from Syria and points east.
It really sucks that again and again the answer from their supporters is that EU immigrants (free to work across the EU) are undercutting pay rates and taking their jobs. That can be translated as 'they have a better work ethic and will take work on offer' so different from the 'why should I work for £10 a week more than benefits? or why should I move to get a job?' attitude among many unemployed in the UK.
The best parallel would be 'stop the free movement of workers across the Provinces of Canada because some might work for less than me'
In todays global economy we all have to realise companies will try to take work to where it's cheapest and the median pay for the world is around $5 a week.
Maybe the Scottish Nationalists should contest every seat in Westminster next GE. They talk more sense and don't have the upper class twit network.

mikelincs Jun 30th 2016 10:07 pm

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11990657)
I am not aware if there is any way to revoke an article 50 election. Once the UK gives notice under the article the UK it is out one way or another.



Article 50 HAS to be passed by both Houses of Parliament for it to become law, and given the majority of remainers in the UK Parliament it will have difficulty in doing that. The UK is still a member of the EU, and so trying to change EU rules when the UK has a veto would be a little difficult.

Shard Jul 1st 2016 4:02 am

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The wage compression is a genuine issue. I disagree with the negative sentiment toward those Brits that have been affected. Remainers needed to address it, and they didn't. There's still time.

Alan2005 Jul 1st 2016 4:50 am

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People think wages will go up after leaving? :blink:

JamesM Jul 1st 2016 5:42 am

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11991170)
The wage compression is a genuine issue. I disagree with the negative sentiment toward those Brits that have been affected. Remainers needed to address it, and they didn't. There's still time.

Wage compression is a problem across the Western World. Marginally better than the slave labour in the rest of the world.

I'm a remainer and I want it addressed.

We are going to end up like the old days with land owners and everyone else on minimum wage working and paying all our money to them back in rent and taxes.

dave_j Jul 1st 2016 6:00 am

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Will someone explain how the EU can hold a meeting of the 27 without inviting the UK at a time when the UK is still a full member?
Is the UK represtation simply a bunch of wimps to accept this without question?

Siouxie Jul 1st 2016 6:20 am

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One thing I don't understand is why there are so many stating they want to "remain" and getting stressed out, when they live in Canada and likely won't be returning to the UK? I'm obviously missing something here...

:confused:

Shard Jul 1st 2016 6:28 am

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 11991240)
Will someone explain how the EU can hold a meeting of the 27 without inviting the UK at a time when the UK is still a full member?
Is the UK represtation simply a bunch of wimps to accept this without question?

I was wondering that too. It must be by absence mutual agreement, but not binding (I.e. if UK demanded a seat we would get it).

Shard Jul 1st 2016 6:30 am

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11991226)
Wage compression is a problem across the Western World. Marginally better than the slave labour in the rest of the world.

I'm a remainer and I want it addressed.

s.

That's muddying the problem a bit. It certainly seems to be a problem for Brits in the building trade.

Shard Jul 1st 2016 6:32 am

Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 11991265)
One thing I don't understand is why there are so many stating they want to "remain" and getting stressed out, when they live in Canada and likely won't be returning to the UK? I'm obviously missing something here...

:confused:

They might be planning to retire in Provence. ;)


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