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Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
What now?
Will immigrant workers be lining up for work visas? Will working Brits abroad EU, have to go get blue cards.? Will the pound recover, will the rest of Europe follow. We will see. But the public have voted and the U.K. Is now Great again. Or is it Lol What we do know is Cameron is guna need a new job soon :@( |
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I honestly don't know what to think except I have noticed that on social media everyone seems to have strong opinions, in or out. I guess that really everyone wants a good outcome from the UK so they agree on the destination.....
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The biggest thing for me was the huge generational divide. I can see a lot of young Brits (35 and under) opting to leave the UK for Europe or elsewhere. I have noticed there had been a lot of 'want to move to Canada' post from young brits on the forum. I am expecting this to increase in the next few days.
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 11982884)
This is a vote by people who don't have to bear the consequences against the interests of those who do and it's being celebrated by those who are already far away; none of whom know what the consequences actually are. Thatcher's generation seem infected by her spite and are visiting it upon the youth of today. “The younger generation has lost the right to live and work in 27 other countries. We will never know the full extent of lost opportunities, friendships, marriages and experiences we will be denied. Freedom of movement was taken away by our parents, uncles and grandparents in a parting blow to a generation that was already drowning in the debts of its predecessors.†|
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I have noticed that there is no post on the UK forum about this today, at all:ohmy:
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Originally Posted by Howefamily
(Post 11982907)
I have noticed that there is no post on the UK forum about this today, at all:ohmy:
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Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11982906)
They don't know. Every paragraph starts with a variation of "might" or "could".
This is a vote by people who don't have to bear the consequences against the interests of those who do and it's being celebrated by those who are already far away; none of whom know what the consequences actually are. Thatcher's generation seem infected by her spite and are visiting it upon the youth of today. “The younger generation has lost the right to live and work in 27 other countries. We will never know the full extent of lost opportunities, friendships, marriages and experiences we will be denied. Freedom of movement was taken away by our parents, uncles and grandparents in a parting blow to a generation that was already drowning in the debts of its predecessors.†https://twitter.com/AD7863/status/746250306242154497 |
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Turkeys have just voted for Christmas.
The Law of Unintended Consequences has already started to apply. I wonder how many 'protest voters' woke up this morning and regretted what they had done? The younger generation have been sold down the river by the over 50s and particularly the pensioners. The majority of people who have only lived in the EU voted to keep it. Those with senile dementia and higher racist tendencies voted to leave. Maybe David Cameron should reduce the state pension and use the money to increase child benefit as his last hurrah.... Now to join the Conservative Party to see if that gives me the right to try and end Boris's political career.... |
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Originally Posted by withabix
(Post 11982967)
Turkeys have just voted for Christmas
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Originally Posted by withabix
(Post 11982967)
Now to join the Conservative Party to see if that gives me the right to try and end Boris's political career.... It does. Could be the best 25 quid I ever spent.... |
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One banking group already moving some 2000 staff to an EU country.
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One of the best quotes I saw was from Noel Gallagher:
"Do I think we should leave? I don't think we should be given a vote. I see politicians on TV every night telling us that this is a ****ing momentous decision that could ****ing change Britain forever and blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, why don't you ****ing do what we pay you to do which is run the ****ing country and make your ****ing mind up? "What are you asking the people for? 99 per cent of the people are thick as pig shit." |
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Originally Posted by withabix
(Post 11982967)
The majority of people who have only lived in the EU voted to keep it.
The one thing this vote really demonstrates is how much the left hate democracy (not to mention the 'uneducated' working class). It's great so long as people vote their way, but should be ignored whenever anyone votes wrong. |
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Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11982906)
They don't know. Every paragraph starts with a variation of "might" or "could".
This is a vote by people who don't have to bear the consequences against the interests of those who do and it's being celebrated by those who are already far away; none of whom know what the consequences actually are. Thatcher's generation seem infected by her spite and are visiting it upon the youth of today. “The younger generation has lost the right to live and work in 27 other countries. We will never know the full extent of lost opportunities, friendships, marriages and experiences we will be denied. Freedom of movement was taken away by our parents, uncles and grandparents in a parting blow to a generation that was already drowning in the debts of its predecessors.†https://twitter.com/AD7863/status/746250306242154497 |
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 11983006)
One banking group already moving some 2000 staff to an EU country.
Morgan Stanley denies moving 2,000 London jobs to Dublin and Frankfurt | Business News | News | The Independent |
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Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 11983021)
Well, duh. The old fogies remember what Britain was like before the EU, and want it back. The youngsters never knew it, and have been fed pro-EU propaganda all their lives.
The one thing this vote really demonstrates is how much the left hate democracy (not to mention the 'uneducated' working class). It's great so long as people vote their way, but should be ignored whenever anyone votes wrong. That was in a world that no longer exists. |
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The most amazing if that is the correct word about this vote is Wales... Net gainers from Europe to the tune of 4 BILLION POUNDS lowest amount of migration in the UK... And now Wales wants to re negotiate the barnet agreement with Westminster / the political classes which mostly wanted to remain!!!!!
Personally i think the Welsh may just be headed back down the mines but without a head torch. |
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As this doesn't fix anything (it may worsen a lot, lets see) the biggest question is how to fix a divided England. I've no doubt Scotland secedes and rejoins; in hindsight they got it wrong last time. NI could plausible get interested in reunification.
But England is split between a wealthy, educated, global elite in the cities and a traditional, nostalgic folk inn the countryside. The London Secedes article now has a whole lot more relevance.. |
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
(Post 11983050)
NI could plausible get interested in reunification.
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Well, that's handed me a 15% pay cut today.
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Originally Posted by MarkG
(Post 11983021)
The youngsters never knew it, and have been fed pro-EU propaganda all their lives.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11983059)
With the EU, yes. With the Republic, give your head a shake! It's also far from a given that the Republic wants unification with Northern Ireland.
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So, per my comment to magnumpy the other day about FB (his friends were all leave, my friends were all remain) my FB feed this morning is full of friends figuring out which EU passports they might qualify for.
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
(Post 11983131)
True. Does NI have the economic clout to go it alone (like Scotland has)- somehow I think not.
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I'm so upset. I don't know what to say except I'm in tune with most of the comments on this thread. Too shocked to say more except what a huge mistake.
I watched the YouTube clip by Prof Michael Dougan before vote a few days ago. Did anyone else see that? S |
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Originally Posted by Snowy560
(Post 11983152)
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I watched the YouTube clip by Prof Michael Dougan before vote a few days ago. Did anyone else see that? S |
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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
(Post 11983137)
So, per my comment to magnumpy the other day about FB (his friends were all leave, my friends were all remain) my FB feed this morning is full of friends figuring out which EU passports they might qualify for.
Thousands Of British Refugees Make Dangerous Journey Across The Irish Sea – Waterford Whispers News |
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Impossible |
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It's 5-10 years of turmoil for Britain and Europe. A second Scottish referendum within a year, tensions resurface in Northern Ireland (Sinn Fein has already proposed re-unification) Wales will lack EU, foreign and (probably) British investment. Inflation. EU itself will be near breaking point dealing with Greek financial crisis (without UK contribution) migrant crisis and emboldened eurosceptic factions in other member states. Workers rights will erode as Britain strives for flexibility to compete with Asia. Young people's opportunity cut (as above) old people no longer enjoy the right to retire in the sun. Closer ties and widening opportunities with Eastern Europe curtailed. All in all, quite rosy.
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 11983161)
Yes, I think quite a lot of people saw that. The trouble is that he is an "expert" and in Brave New Britain you can't trust experts. What do they know?
We've had quite a few overnight inquiries from friends/acquaintances/family about immigrating to Canada. The only other passport I might be able to get is a British one issued in Gibraltar (my mum was born there) but that won't help me with Europe. S |
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:goodpost:
Originally Posted by withabix
(Post 11983039)
They think that they remember what Britain was like before the EU. Most of them were not even at working age by then.
That was in a world that no longer exists. S |
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Oh for goodness sake..
Why do people generalise and belittle because the vote didn't go the way they hoped? Why does it concern them so much of the age, education, employment or otherwise of those that voted to leave - don't they think there were an (almost) equal amount of people with a similar background who voted remain? Stop pointing the finger because others dissagreed! IMHO, people were just fed up to the back teeth of not having control over their own country any longer. Regardless, the deed is done. Time to move on and move forwards. |
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Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 11983212)
Any before others crucify me I am not saying all those that voted out are ignorant but this women and those like her clearly had no idea of the ramifications of their actions. |
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Originally Posted by Engineer_abroad
(Post 11983252)
this explains more clearly than anything the danger of handing over political power in referendums to the willfully ignorant.
Any before others crucify me I am not saying all those that voted out are ignorant but this women and those like her clearly had no idea of the ramifications of their actions. |
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I think this was a flat out protest vote; in part against the "experts" as mentioned above
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11983276)
Many many were/are ignorant. The problem is that this was a vote on the structure of Britain and Europe, not a governmental cycle. Many don't know the difference or don't care. Democratic rights are premised on informed voters, very few voters were sufficiently informed to make this choice. It's akin to asking the general public if we should go to war, instinct and prejudice will prevail over analysis and reason. It's madness that Cameron succumbed to Farage's taunts and granted the referendum.
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Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11983221)
It's 5-10 years of turmoil for Britain and Europe. A second Scottish referendum within a year,
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Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11983276)
It's madness that Cameron succumbed to Farage's taunts and granted the referendum.
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Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11983276)
Many many were/are ignorant. The problem is that this was a vote on the structure of Britain and Europe, not a governmental cycle. Many don't know the difference or don't care. Democratic rights are premised on informed voters, very few voters were sufficiently informed to make this choice. It's akin to asking the general public if we should go to war, instinct and prejudice will prevail over analysis and reason. It's madness that Cameron succumbed to Farage's taunts and granted the referendum.
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