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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11989075)
I moot that that horse has bolted and is now somewhere around Kazakhstan. The other members of the EU have likely heard the referendum result so there's no going back on it now.
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11989115)
Kicking the decision into the long grass until more is known about what Brexit entails makes good sense
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Here's a proposal.
There's already a North-South divide so why not just make it official? Remainers live in the South (because London is 'remain' and Europe is closer) and the Leavers all live in the North. Give the North it's independence as it appears that's what the Leavers want. Hold a referendum to decide. :rofl: |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11989115)
Kicking the decision into the long grass until more is known about what Brexit entails makes good sense, and then letting the politicians decide or a second referendum with a qualified majority might be the way forward.
Whilst the fall is not the best news of the week for me, it will boost the uk economy in the short term. All of those Nissan cars exported to europe will boost profits, increase in petrol and oil revenues also boost treasury income. etc etc. Ahh I hear you say, what about all of those threats to move company headquarters abroad, well let them. They will always need a core base in the UK to service the UK and since they pull out all the stops to pay as little tax as possible, let them scrounge from someone else. Keeping the EU hanging on for as long as practicable makes common sense to me, encourages others to do the same and most importantly puts the willies up them. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
IMO Europe is being kept hanging on because nobody, absolutely nobody, has a clue how to proceed.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11986656)
For which situations? The collapse of the currency, the pending departure of branch-plant industry, the rise in street level racism, the disarray in both major parties, can hardly be attributed to the writings of mahvellous Julie Burchill.
I suppose the papers are somewhat culpable in not more vigorously exposing the Leave campaign's lies over finance and immigration and for allowing Boris to be portrayed as a lovable buffoon rather than a dangerous egomaniac but, in the end, it's the people who voted who made this stupid decision. It's not the BBC that shot the working public in the foot. Of course the country will muddle on, few people will die over the decision, but it's no good pretending the British public was misled. The British public is simply stupid. Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame. As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Snowy560
(Post 11989188)
...in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place...
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Snowy560
(Post 11989188)
IMO Europe is being kept hanging on because nobody, absolutely nobody, has a clue how to proceed.
Even though no one could really predict the consequences in the event of a Leave vote, some kind of planning for the immediate aftermath should have taken place. That would have given more confidence (if only in appearance) that things were "in hand". And clearly they are not. It was, at heart, a schoolboy wresting match between ex-Etonian, ex-Bullingdon Club twats. Bugger the consequences for the rest of us. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 11989159)
I agree. I have just noted that Renault is to increase its sales prices as a result of the fall in sterling.
Whilst the fall is not the best news of the week for me, it will boost the uk economy in the short term. All of those Nissan cars exported to europe will boost profits, increase in petrol and oil revenues also boost treasury income. etc etc. Ahh I hear you say, what about all of those threats to move company headquarters abroad, well let them. They will always need a core base in the UK to service the UK and since they pull out all the stops to pay as little tax as possible, let them scrounge from someone else. Keeping the EU hanging on for as long as practicable makes common sense to me, encourages others to do the same and most importantly puts the willies up them. Non performing loans ... Italy eyes €40bn bank rescue as first Brexit domino falls |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Snowy560
(Post 11989269)
Kind of ironic, really, the "take back control" message of the Leavers:
https://next.ft.com/content/17ab2ca6...6-a4a71e8140b0 S |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 11989283)
Can't read it - subscription only.
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Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
(Post 11989200)
Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media. +1 |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
(Post 11989200)
Yes they are, what ever the outcome of the vote, if there is any negative effects from it (remain or leave) the media would have been revelling in pointing out the doom and gloom, and the public listen to it. Its just like when there is a chance of snow forecast in the UK.....the public start panicing going out buying milk and bread and believing they are going to be trapped and litetrally snowed in....and the world is going to end!!! That will never happen in the UK now! its panic over nothing! Thats what i meant by the media is to blame.
As you say, the country will muddle on and will no one will die, not so though if you believe the media. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 11989157)
Remainers live in the South (because London is 'remain' and Europe is closer) and the Leavers all live in the North. Give the North it's independence as it appears that's what the Leavers want.
And you can stick Essex and Surrey up yer jacket.
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11989226)
It was, at heart, a schoolboy wresting match between ex-Etonian, ex-Bullingdon Club twats.
Bugger the consequences for the rest of us.
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 11989233)
Anyone would buy a car made by Renault?
Anything's better than GM. |
Re: Great Britain's Future - post Brexit
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11989131)
It what way? If someone, say the head of a firm looking to invest, was going to be scared off by a Brexit, would they be less scared off by a dithery Brexit? The only beneficiaries I can see of a bumbled Brexit would be potential immigrants to the UK who could hurry up and move while the chance is still there.
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